... When they get most renown points for doing dmg?

Stupid balance, really

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might want to edit title should =P

Originally posted by Goldknyght

might want to edit title should =P

Done *g*

Hmm, that guy may be exploiting.  I have never seen an Archmage get that high.  He even beat out the Bright Wizard. . .

Correction : Nearly beat out the BW

Probably ungrouped fromt he rest. Problem is a lot of people can do better solo than they can in group due to slackers etc.

   Well in my own opinion it is all about knowing how to play the character. I have a lvl 15 Archmage and 99% of the time I heal people, because if they die, I die, thats plain and simple to me, a class in a group trying to do something it isn't designed to do, I guarentee you will see people dying in your groups left and right, just because its pvp based doesn't mean the class rules change. I do sometimes cast some dots on people, but only when there is a strong team presence in the area.  People sometimes play classes for all the wrong reasons and theres really nothing people can say or do about it. I play every class in every mmo the same way, I play them the way they are meant to be played and I end up with great results.

   That is what happened in WOW and why it sucks now, the classes became unbalanced, every class was a Tank and the healers were to overpowered. To me there in WOW the classes were unbalanced...1 example in WOW I seen this alot, a Healer should never be able to outlast and stand toe to toe with any mail wearing or plate wearing melee or DPS class. I think we are in the early stages of this game and eventually I think the dev's will catch on and make healing points as important as damage points awarded.

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

Most of the XP bonus comes from how well you played your class and has to do with the objectives.  You are not going to get many points when you get destroyed in a scenario, but you will get tons if you win and you are near the objectives when they are capped or near where most of the kills are taking place if its a Mourkain style scenario.

When I play a scenario all I do or should I say try and do is HEAL and only heal.  My Zealot toon almost never ever uses offensive spells whatsoever when I am RVRing in a Scenario but when you are constantly being the first targeted class by the Order and our tanks simply let them walk towards us, it does not take very long before we fall like leaves.  I swear that no matter where I position myself to heal or rez or whatever, I find myslef under direct attack from  my oponents.  So YES all I want to do as a Healer is heal (which is what he is suppose to be doing), but regardless we spend more time dying and walking back then any other class out there....am I gettting more XP for exclusively healing?  I have no idea, but the amount of times we die and are out of the Xp influenace area while we ait fo rthe timer then walb back to the fighting area may have something to do with that balancing out.

Originally posted by Cotillion99

Most of the XP bonus comes from how well you played your class and has to do with the objectives.  You are not going to get many points when you get destroyed in a scenario, but you will get tons if you win and you are near the objectives when they are capped or near where most of the kills are taking place if its a Mourkain style scenario.

I love that scenario I find a good spot to range people and gain mad points.   Capture the flag in Phoenix Thronei s fun too if your group works together right and the healesr heal everyone ...makes it mad hard for the otherside to snag your flag for points.

Originally posted by banthis

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

O I love healing, but I also like to see my renown rank rising, and when I heal, I get almost only the half of the renown when I dps (kinda crazy). + Skilled on dmg I can do quests in the breaks between two scenarios (since all quests are solo quests, I cant kill mobs by healing them)

Well I did a PQ with my runepriest and took the top spot on the loot list.  I didn't do any damage just healing the entire time so it is possible :)

I tell you one thing. I played a Runepriest, And I was putting all my points into healing, and I was talk to like I was dirt because I wasnt healing everyone, or I want healing enough,. And I focused on str8 healing. And i cant keep everyone alive. And when the Dps and tank will not help keep you alive you either die or keep healing yourself, but then your yelled at for not healing others. But I played a zeolet on another server and was treated with repected and was protected. So I am about a helf sec form moving back to the other side. on the server I am on now.

Originally posted by Kilmar

Originally posted by banthis

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

 

O I love healing, but I also like to see my renown rank rising, and when I heal, I get almost only the half of the renown when I dps (kinda crazy). + Skilled on dmg I can do quests in the breaks between two scenarios (since all quests are solo quests, I cant kill mobs by healing them)

What toon are you playing?  If your ONLY healing yea you'll get half and if your ONLY DPSIng your completely worthless to your team you get way more Renown for actually WINNING the Scenario and its impossible to Win Without Healers. 
 

My friend plays a Shaman and exclusively heals while doing DPS on the side he tends to max his Renown several times faster than I can.   If your playing a DoK it explains it since they're DPS first Healer Second (worthless clothie peices of shit in my opinion but whatever).

People only worried about themselves are the reason WAR Scenarios suck to participate in with a Pug.

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Kilmar

Originally posted by banthis

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

 

O I love healing, but I also like to see my renown rank rising, and when I heal, I get almost only the half of the renown when I dps (kinda crazy). + Skilled on dmg I can do quests in the breaks between two scenarios (since all quests are solo quests, I cant kill mobs by healing them)

What toon are you playing?  If your ONLY healing yea you'll get half and if your ONLY DPSIng your completely worthless to your team you get way more Renown for actually WINNING the Scenario and its impossible to Win Without Healers. 
 

My friend plays a Shaman and exclusively heals while doing DPS on the side he tends to max his Renown several times faster than I can.   If your playing a DoK it explains it since they're DPS first Healer Second (worthless clothie peices of shit in my opinion but whatever).

People only worried about themselves are the reason WAR Scenarios suck to participate in with a Pug.

Bingo!  You just described 70% of the people playing the game.

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Kilmar

Originally posted by banthis

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

 

O I love healing, but I also like to see my renown rank rising, and when I heal, I get almost only the half of the renown when I dps (kinda crazy). + Skilled on dmg I can do quests in the breaks between two scenarios (since all quests are solo quests, I cant kill mobs by healing them)

What toon are you playing?  If your ONLY healing yea you'll get half and if your ONLY DPSIng your completely worthless to your team you get way more Renown for actually WINNING the Scenario and its impossible to Win Without Healers. 
 

My friend plays a Shaman and exclusively heals while doing DPS on the side he tends to max his Renown several times faster than I can.   If your playing a DoK it explains it since they're DPS first Healer Second (worthless clothie peices of shit in my opinion but whatever).

People only worried about themselves are the reason WAR Scenarios suck to participate in with a Pug.

Bingo!  You just described 70% of the people playing the game.

That's why you should, I don't know, talk to the people that are good, and possibly group up with them.  One solid group of people can make all the difference.

I've got to admit as a Warrior priest, its very tough to both DPS and heal.  When I played an Archmage it was much easier, I took more damage, but I could sit back and do both... as a WP I'm forced to be on the front lines.

That being said, my heals are crappy... most are HoT which really doesn't do me any good unless I keep myself as a defensive target.  I do often heal my team, but my heals aren't anywhere as effective as a Runepriest or an Archmage.... so seeing myself as the top in heals doesn't happen very often.

I've also made a spec just for healing, but having to step back every 5-6 heals and use supplication makes me worthless in both DPS and healing.

That being said I still love my WP, I just got my first AOE heal at 20, and it's come in handy.  I find the combat and healing much more exciting and challenging then the AM.

Every healer should heal however, if they didn't... they would be wasting most of their abilities.

Originally posted by Cotillion99

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Kilmar

Originally posted by banthis

You get the same amount of Rp / XP for healing as you do damage there is no difference.   Healers should heal and do damage to maximize their points.  My friend rarely bothers with attacking anyone unless they attack him (or he's playing a healer that's heals are based off his attacks)  and he's leveled way faster than I ever could.  Why people bother playing a healer and not healing is beyond me if you don't want to damn heal don't play a healer...this is why pugs lose because healers won't heal, they won't rez its a nightmare really.

 

O I love healing, but I also like to see my renown rank rising, and when I heal, I get almost only the half of the renown when I dps (kinda crazy). + Skilled on dmg I can do quests in the breaks between two scenarios (since all quests are solo quests, I cant kill mobs by healing them)

What toon are you playing?  If your ONLY healing yea you'll get half and if your ONLY DPSIng your completely worthless to your team you get way more Renown for actually WINNING the Scenario and its impossible to Win Without Healers. 
 

My friend plays a Shaman and exclusively heals while doing DPS on the side he tends to max his Renown several times faster than I can.   If your playing a DoK it explains it since they're DPS first Healer Second (worthless clothie peices of shit in my opinion but whatever).

People only worried about themselves are the reason WAR Scenarios suck to participate in with a Pug.

Bingo!  You just described 70% of the people playing the game.

That's why you should, I don't know, talk to the people that are good, and possibly group up with them.  One solid group of people can make all the difference.

Ok Shay, your WB tonight.

Maybe because you're a healer?

Why should a DPS? They should just chug pots and do nothing.

Imagine how fun the game would be as a healer if you didn't have anybody in front of you or if you were a tank and didn't get heals.

Stupid American mindset of "DPS WINS EVERYTHING!". That never works in any games with any sort of organization. It's just the scrubs that never get into a guild that would make it in even the top 20 of the server even if there were only 10 total guilds.

Originally posted by DarkShadow74

I tell you one thing. I played a Runepriest, And I was putting all my points into healing, and I was talk to like I was dirt because I wasnt healing everyone, or I want healing enough,. And I focused on str8 healing. And i cant keep everyone alive. And when the Dps and tank will not help keep you alive you either die or keep healing yourself, but then your yelled at for not healing others. But I played a zeolet on another server and was treated with repected and was protected. So I am about a helf sec form moving back to the other side. on the server I am on now.

Ok tried to play my Runepriest again in PvP on Skull throne again, same stuff happened again. Is the Choas side looking for a Zeolot? and a Dpser (alt toon) and maybe a magus or Sorc? Let me know I am more then willing to move after I was just yelled at for not keeping a tank alive when they would not help me keep a witch elf off of me, Called me a F****** Noob that should just /slit wrist. That is to much.