Originally posted by Mattee336

It's funny how the WARheads fight so hard to defend this game when they know it will be dead in a year or so.

And you know that for fact? how? you are not such a  good troll. You need more practise.

Opinions FTW!

Originally posted by Newhopes

I think this game will get boring pretty fast, ya so keep sieges are fun but I bet you they get pretty boring after you've done it for the hundredth time, and world pvp will be the same just an endless zerg with little to no skill involved

So true because even on servers that are supposedly balanced between Order and Destruction hardly anyone is doing Open RVR. People are doing scenarios instead and the wait times are too long. The imbalance between Destruction and Order is hurting the game. They certainly made Destruction a more favorable faction to play as far as classes and character model, they look so much better than Order. 

2 more weeks and we'll see if the hammer will fall.

personally i don't think this game will fail at all, afterall it's like a DAOC2 being mixed with a popular IP by many dungeon lovers.

It's meant to keep atleast twice the amount of subs than DAOC did/does.

I can't see the game as being good since the combat dynamics are awful in my opinion but that's mine alone, others will differ.

GFX art wise, i believe it's not even remotely as well done as Blizzard did WoW. But then again it's my opinion and possibly every other mmo player who liked/likes WoW.

I'm kinda saddend that the next mmorpg i'll be buying will be WotLK, followed by Aion sometime in the future, since i really believed this year would be the year where a lot of new big things would hit the mmorpg market but untill now it's only been pretenders.

If WAR had better combat dynamics, i would have been playing and enjoying that game right now. Just wanted to point that out, because WAR has some nice features. Kinda weird saying that after pointing out how awful i thought the dynamics were and how bad i thought the art was, isn't it?  xD

If its was DAoC II i would play it

Originally posted by Qmire

2 more weeks and we'll see if the hammer will fall.

 

personally i don't think this game will fail at all, afterall it's like a DAOC2 being mixed with a popular IP by many dungeon lovers.

 

It's meant to keep atleast twice the amount of subs than DAOC did/does.

 

I can't see the game as being good since the combat dynamics are awful in my opinion but that's mine alone, others will differ.

 

GFX art wise, i believe it's not even remotely as well done as Blizzard did WoW. But then again it's my opinion and possibly every other mmo player who liked/likes WoW.

 

I'm kinda saddend that the next mmorpg i'll be buying will be WotLK, followed by Aion sometime in the future, since i really believed this year would be the year where a lot of new big things would hit the mmorpg market but untill now it's only been pretenders.

 

If WAR had better combat dynamics, i would have been playing and enjoying that game right now. Just wanted to point that out, because WAR has some nice features. Kinda weird saying that after pointing out how awful i thought the dynamics were and how bad i thought the art was, isn't it?  xD

I don't think it'll fail either I just don't think i'll be as successful as some are claiming.

Let me break this down barney style for all you graphic douche bags.

You'll notice that most MMORPGs don't have amazing graphics, and that's for a good fucking reason. MMORPGs have fair-decent graphics so more machines can handle it. Which means more people play, and the more money the company makes.

This is common sense people, come on. That and you shouldn't be worried about graphics. Graphics are NOT what make a game good.

I understand where you're coming from, it's nice to play a game with awesome gameplay and pretty visuals. That's just not the point though. People still play games like Pacman religiously, and by todays standards that games graphics are shit.

You know why people still play classic games? Because their core gameplay elements are FUN. They're ENTERTAINING.

If graphics mattered so much, the 10+million people who are playing WoW definitely wouldn't be there. If they mattered so much, people wouldn't be playing MMORPGs as much as they do.

Let's hope this message clicks in some peoples heads.

       I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

Originally posted by Theocritus

       I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

Originally posted by vinwiesel

Originally posted by Theocritus

       I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

 

What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

Originally posted by vinwiesel

Originally posted by Theocritus

       I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

 

What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

 

So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

Probably firewalls, whats your PC's specs?

c2d e6600 2.4ghz
2gig ram
GF 8800gtx 768mb

I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

EDIT: And the problem isn't too extreme, it just happens about every 15-30 minutes, usually in PQ area, in scenario's or coming out of them, etc. 

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

c2d e6600 2.4ghz
2gig ram
GF 8800gtx 768mb

I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

Running Vista?

You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

Originally posted by Wolfkrone

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

c2d e6600 2.4ghz
2gig ram
GF 8800gtx 768mb

I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

 

Running Vista?

You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

No, Xp.  And I've been reading around, 2gb for around these specs supposedly runs the game pretty decently. 

I'll check into my firewall.  I turned off windows firewall and no go, even added exceptions for the game.  I'll try the router firewall, but I dunno...port forwarding should have bypassed it regardless.

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

Originally posted by Wolfkrone

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

c2d e6600 2.4ghz
2gig ram
GF 8800gtx 768mb

I went to warhammeralliance.com to see if there was a problem, and there was, but people are reporting that the issue still happens.  I've tried every fix for it, and it still happens.  I did set the port forwarding correctly, and I really don't have anything else running in the background.  I'm just honestly at a loss.

 

Running Vista?

You need more RAM. Also, your firewall might be interfering with the game, I know mine was for a while.

 

No, Xp.  And I've been reading around, 2gb for around these specs supposedly runs the game pretty decently. 

I'll check into my firewall.  I turned off windows firewall and no go, even added exceptions for the game.  I'll try the router firewall, but I dunno...port forwarding should have bypassed it regardless.

What resolution etc. have you got the game on?

Originally posted by jimcabtv24

Originally posted by vinwiesel

Originally posted by Theocritus

       I really don t thimk the majority of people understand why Warhammer chose this engine.....Players have told you guys many many times that they went with lesser graphics because the game is designed for many players to be on screen at the same time.....Cant you understand that?? Is it really that difficult of a concept??....Do you guys want AoC type graphics where if more than 3 people are on your screen the engine comes to a screeching halt and you basically have frame by frame pvp?? Basically in a game like this you have 2 choices when you design it: You either go with a beautiful, lag filled world where the gameplay suffers or you go with lesser graphics to make the gameplay smoother......

 

What?? My old 1.7ghz athlon with a ti-4200 graphics card could handle L2 with high graphics and I still had no significant lag during guild battles.  WAR's graphics are vastly inferior to L2, and the game still plays worse. 

It is possible to make a game that looks great on high end systems, but can be turned down for budget systems.  War looks crummy on all systems. People need to stop making excuses for it.

 

So true.  I just picked up WAR today, and it runs pretty crummy for me.  All graphical settings practically look the same (the only difference I notice is view distance between them).  Lineage 2 ran pretty well on my system.  Hell, Tabula Rasa (a game with a lot of action going on in zones like WAR) looks far better and is alot more smooth than WAR with alot of people in certain areas. 

Not to mention the game logging off randomly for me, despite my connection being perfectly fine.  I just don't understand this game's problem at all. 

L2 looking better than WAR i guess thats just opinions because I think WAR looks better than L2.  But I run fine on max settings with a full warband and more against another full warband if not more and its pretty much fine. I get a few hicups here and there but the framerate is quite nice. 

my specs are

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Memory: 3328MB RAM
Graphics: ATI 4850

I tried on all resolutions, my native screen resolution is 1440x900, so that's what it initially was on.  Tried 1280x768, as well as 1024x768...same outcomes.  All current drivers for my card.  I'm honestly on the virge of downgrading drivers to see what happens, I dunno.  I just don't think the performance is what it honestly should be at all. 

Although.....I've read about sound drivers, I dunno if that could be the problem or not.  I think I'll try that tomorrow and see if that is the problem.

Originally posted by tetammoth
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BTW > Warrior Priests are the Paladins of Warhammer, even 7 Orcs cant kill one of them. Nice Balanceing Mythic  

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Sounds like those seven orcs need to learn to play. Black orcs aren't the best class for killing WPs, but they're certainly capable of it. If this is really your experience, and not exaggeration, balance has nothing to do with it; it's a matter of player skill.

To be perfectly honest, even though the game is fun (making a game that is fun should be seen as barely passing, in my opinion, if that is all it accomplishes) I have to agree with it being an over rated game.  If you are the type of person who likes MMORPGs, you'll like WAR most likely, but it could really have been done much better and delivered what it promised more successfully.

So far, the "PvP" in Warhammer consists of two things: Instanced battlegrounds called "scenarios" and trying to kill a bunch of people huddled around a Hero and three Champions in a not quite so very epic "Keep" fight.

Anybody who gets excited about PvP of that ilk hasn't likely played any game other than World of Warcraft.   There's no point to really fight around the Battlefield objectives because once you cap it your enemy can't turn it over for a certain period of time, and I have yet to see anyone really fight all that hard over one.

Beyond that, Class customization is bad, with some choices so obviously bad and some choices so obviously required that it inherently lends itself to cookie cutter specs.  Healers that can do "damage" is mostly a myth that has little bearing in reality.  Most of the "class mechanics" are more a hassle to trip through with little payoff for the extra effort required.

All of the attacks in the game are largly the same, with only slight differences in modifiers.  Two attacks will both do 20 damage, but one will increase your Toughness by 12 and the other will increase your Strength by 12.  That's called filler.

The game spent only 3 years in development and it shows in almost every area of the game.  We desparately needed a game with some polish and originality to compete with World of Warcraft, but sadly, this game is the same thing with a different twist. I won't even call it a PvP twist... it's an RvR twist.

This game will be popular for a little while, but if Darkfall is released, and delivers, expect a big drop in population.  By making a game so fundamentally similar to WoW, Mythic has left themselves pretty vulnerable to WotLK.  EA's influence in this game is pretty evident already.