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General Discussion  » Two simple changes Mythic needs to make URGENTLY!

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  PapaLazarou

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 518

 
9/25/08 3:47:31 AM#1

1. Turn friendly collision detection off because it is very annoying constantly tripping over team mates and doesn't work in a mmorpg, specially in RVR when you have giant crowds of people.

2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?

  RedwoodSap

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Joined: 3/09/07
Posts: 1249

Not a retired MMORPG.com mod

9/25/08 3:49:31 AM#2

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

  siphrdamon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/10/06
Posts: 143

" May blind eyes one day see the Light"

9/25/08 3:52:09 AM#3

1. ITEM linking cuz you know i want to show off MAI P3RPLZ!

 

2. instant death cuz you know that makes an awesome game.

  Gigget

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/08
Posts: 131

9/25/08 3:52:55 AM#4

 The friendly collison only applies in RvR/Scenario settings.  It's realistic isn't it?  Or are you not the type that complains that bows in games have no strings?  The collision can be used tactically -- did you know that?

 

And i can't believe you consider these urgent when there are more urgent bugs and fixes that need to be taken care of.

  Kilmar

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Joined: 8/13/07
Posts: 799

9/25/08 3:54:49 AM#5

1. disable soloing

2. enable grouping

Everyone not playing wow is a wow hater! :P

  arrisb

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/29/04
Posts: 197

9/25/08 3:55:31 AM#6

Remove instancing?

There is hardly any in the game apart from the scenarios....

  DarkPony

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 5452

Confident, cocky, lazy, dead.

9/25/08 4:06:37 AM#7
Originally posted by RedwoodSap

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

 

Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.

  PapaLazarou

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 518

 
9/25/08 4:08:09 AM#8
Originally posted by Gigget

 The friendly collison only applies in RvR/Scenario settings.  It's realistic isn't it?  Or are you not the type that complains that bows in games have no strings?  The collision can be used tactically -- did you know that?

 

And i can't believe you consider these urgent when there are more urgent bugs and fixes that need to be taken care of.


 

They are urgent because both of these ruin PVP and thats the main focus of the game.


Having friendly collision serves no purpose but to be annoying and tbh you'll still have collision on for the enemy so you can do the protect casters thing by blocking them. Not that anyone ever does this because theres no point as ranged will just get em anyways.

  Blurr

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... So I says, "Supercollider? I just met her!"

9/25/08 4:08:34 AM#9

Actually the friendly collision detection helps keep a sense of tactics in the game. This way melee dps can't run through the tanks to strike at you. Tanks actually have a feel of being these big hulking brutes rather than a pretty art that doesn't matter much.

The autofacing stops the game from turning into a game of who can circlestrafe best. Look at WoW pvp, two people run in circles until one of them falls over. That's not fun, that's a win button for whoever's using a faster mouse.

"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  PapaLazarou

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 518

 
9/25/08 4:08:49 AM#10
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by RedwoodSap

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

 

Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.


 

They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

  Gigget

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/08
Posts: 131

9/25/08 4:10:23 AM#11
Originally posted by PapaLazarou
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by RedwoodSap

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

 

Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.


 

They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

 

What?  OMG!  what a horrible idea.

 

  Raztor

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Joined: 12/19/06
Posts: 683

EQ-WoW raider
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9/25/08 4:10:47 AM#12

1. New social pannel is needed

 

2. Encourage players to speak, nothing more depressing than playing an MMO where no one talks to eachother, game just feels totally dead.

  PapaLazarou

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 518

 
9/25/08 4:11:39 AM#13
Originally posted by Blurr

Actually the friendly collision detection helps keep a sense of tactics in the game. This way melee dps can't run through the tanks to strike at you. Tanks actually have a feel of being these big hulking brutes rather than a pretty art that doesn't matter much.

The autofacing stops the game from turning into a game of who can circlestrafe best. Look at WoW pvp, two people run in circles until one of them falls over. That's not fun, that's a win button for whoever's using a faster mouse.


 

Ok firstly thats not friendly collision you're talking about thats the enemy and secondly only rogues circestrafe and its a good tactic which the only people who bitch about it are the ones who have no skill in PVP anyways.

The faster mouse thing? lol this ain't fucking counter strike you can use a 90's mouse and still keep up because you're only turning to face your enemy.

  DarkPony

Steed of Tardcore

Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 5452

Confident, cocky, lazy, dead.

9/25/08 4:13:44 AM#14
Originally posted by PapaLazarou
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by RedwoodSap

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer

 

Lolwut? 'All the instancing?'

This is the WAR board, not the AoC one, muppet.


 

They do need to get rid of scenarios because they make RVR underpopulated.

 

Hmmppf. As I speak for me and me guildies; we prefer RvR any time of the day but they are both fun. Server pops should rise a little more, that is what.

Ohw, some of us might be powerleveling and have fewer folks to RvR with in their tier which is perfectly understandable.

Can't wait to see the madhouse when most of us are 40 and fighting for tier 4 however.

  Senjinn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/11/07
Posts: 169

9/25/08 4:14:49 AM#15
Originally posted by PapaLazarou

2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?


 

If your playing a WP or DoK , yes it would be much harder. These 2 classes are the hardest to play imo and get a lot of flames for not healing enough. You wouldn't get healed at all if they also had to worry about facing while someone danced around them.

Also like bunny hopping, i find it looks really stupid in the game when someone dances an irish jig around you while swinging a sword. So either way I'd never vote to change this.

  Volkmar

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Joined: 3/04/04
Posts: 2332

9/25/08 4:14:54 AM#16
Originally posted by RedwoodSap

1. remove all instancing so you can actually see and meet everyone playing on your server

2. add a significant death penalty, one that pisses you off so much you punch your computer


 

1. what instancing? There is no instancing in this game! you can meet and see everyone playing on your server already!

2. what about no? bad death penalty and game based on massive fighting do not mix together.

"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"

  Blurr

Novice Member

Joined: 2/17/04
Posts: 2166

... So I says, "Supercollider? I just met her!"

9/25/08 4:31:06 AM#17


Originally posted by PapaLazarou

Ok firstly thats not friendly collision you're talking about thats the enemy and secondly only rogues circestrafe and its a good tactic which the only people who bitch about it are the ones who have no skill in PVP anyways.

The faster mouse thing? lol this ain't fucking counter strike you can use a 90's mouse and still keep up because you're only turning to face your enemy.



<Mod edit>, that IS friendly collision detection when your own team blocks you. It means you can't run back and forth through your own tanks. Can you imagine the people that would complain about being hit through tanks by melee dps? Wake up.

And if you think rogues are the only ones who circlestrafe, you've obviously never done any pvp. Go play a few pvp matches in WAR or WoW and try to learn something about what you're complaining about.

Third point, surprise, some people actually play this game on laptops, without a mouse. Sorry to burst your bubble, but all mice are also not created equal. No trackball or mini-mouse can compare to a 5000dpi laser mouse. In games like WoW if you can turn faster than your opponent, you can keep your front to them and their back to you. This gives you a huge advantage. In war, all that running in circles doesn't mean anything. Position on the battlefield actually matters.

<Mod edit>

"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  Blurr

Novice Member

Joined: 2/17/04
Posts: 2166

... So I says, "Supercollider? I just met her!"

9/25/08 4:33:44 AM#18

Also, if you think RvR is underpopulated people must just be avoiding you. Me and a buddy wandered to check out a keep last night only to find about 20 Destruction and 35 Order fighting over it. We had battering rams out, avoiding boiling oil, the works.

Now if only people would learn not to bunch up on the stairs.

"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000

  theratmonkey

Novice Member

Joined: 4/24/06
Posts: 670

?

9/25/08 4:39:03 AM#19

1.) Make a damn general chat. Sure, you don't want gold spammers. I get them anyway.

2.) Make a damn general chat.

 

Groovy.

  xenogias

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/13/07
Posts: 1687

9/25/08 4:40:34 AM#20
Originally posted by PapaLazarou

1. Turn friendly collision detection off because it is very annoying constantly tripping over team mates and doesn't work in a mmorpg, specially in RVR when you have giant crowds of people.

2. Turn autofacing off because is it sooo hard to ask for people to manually face their target?


 

1. Collision detection is fine. That said if they did turn it off for friendly people I wouldnt care either.

2. Why should you care? Really.....why should you care? doesnt matter if a person does it manually or not. It helps the not so great players compete though its a verry minor help and it helps for thoes with lag.

 

Neither one of these are urgent and neither effect RvR the way you want people to believe it does. An urgent fix would be for healers to stop getting the fkn "Invalid Target" crap half the time when they are trying to heal someone.

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