I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've  played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan.

I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.

Why did you delete your installation if you know you're coming back in a few months?

Oh and... BAI!

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

Originally posted by Amistad3000

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

On the main server I played order has lost far more players than it gained it went from med med pop to low high  pop at peck times and I can only see that ratio getting worse as alot of the order players telling me there rerolling dest.

Originally posted by Newhopes

I'am sorry to say I've just deleted war from my computer playing as order for me has just been a complete waste of time, I've  played on 5 different servers and it's been the same on every one order getting completely rolled in world RVR sadly if that continues the way it is it will kill the end game and ultimately the game itself, it's pretty sad because I over all like the game but sadly as it is at the moment I don't see this game haveing any long term lifespan.

I'll come back in a few months time to see if things have impoved so in the mentime have fun fun playing.

LOL

And you may want to consider that the problem may be you. Order has lost their Main City already? Quite impressive for the Destruction types to already be that dominant.

By the way which Server,Guild and Rank were you?

If you have played on 5 servers in 4 days, it is obvious that you did not get high level on any of the servers you played.   Don't you think it would make some sense to assume some of the better players are higher level?  If your ego can't handle losing in RvR or losing in general, why play any game?

Phoenix Throne has a nice balance.  The past few nights we've owned more world RvR objectives than Destruction.  I can see this being a problem on around 2/3rd of the servers though so I understand your frustration.  I think if Mythic brought in just the knight of the blazing sun in a patch soon that it would help.  Hopefully they are on top of this.

Originally posted by Amistad3000

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

Everyone wants to win. 50% will loose - constantly -. Losing doesn’t motivate . Lack of motivation is quit playing.
Downfall of arena, downfall of any PvP game.

Solutions ? I don't have any, not in Arena, not in RvR.
Serious problem for any paid MMORPG.

Developers should think about this. Arena costed Wow more players than needed because of this. Now they even raise the personal ratings. More losers, more complaining.

Simple solution is saying "it sucks" but of course that's only true for the looser, but he pays the sub.
???

Sadly this seem to be happening a lot. I use to talk about how four of the largest WoW guilds on AD were saying they were all going to WAR, it looks like they didn't make the switch after all. I do belive that is because WAR isn't another WoW clone like a lot of folks are saying, but also it isn't an everymans game that WoW is and that was what Mythic was shooting for, populations should become stable around Christmas and Mythic can then see if they need to merge servers or not.

Originally posted by Newhopes

Originally posted by Amistad3000

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

 

On the main server I played order has lost far more players than it gained it went from med med pop to low high  pop at peck times and I can only see that ratio getting worse as alot of the order players telling me there rerolling dest.

Once a server population(that's online) reaches a certain cutoff that's when the queues start for the other side. You're simply not going to see 4:1 odds online at a time, if you can't drag your fellow Order types out to RvR then that's your(the servers) problem not the population imbalance.

Originally posted by Paragus1

If you have played on 5 servers in 4 days, it is obvious that you did not get high level on any of the servers you played.   Don't you think it would make some sense to assume some of the better players are higher level?  If your ego can't handle losing in RvR or losing in general, why play any game?

I only played on the other servers to see what the general feel for the game was and generally the same order simply been unable to compete againest the sheer numbers of dest.

Originally posted by Amistad3000

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

Actually everyone played alliance.. NE rogue anyone??

and to the original poster..

Umm.. You didn't get high enough to make a judgement about the world.  The low level areas just mean there are more low level destruction guys.. You can avoid open world PvP until around level 17.. or so?? I believe..

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by Amistad3000

You've given the game what, 4 days and now you're going to quit?  If you are going to complain about the order to chaos ratio in WAR you just have to wait and everything will even out in about a week. A reason why everyone is picking chaos is because its the same reason why everyone picks Horde on WoW. It's just a perference to be on the 'bad' side or because the characters look more 'cool'. Just give the game some time and you will enjoy it.

 

Actually everyone played alliance.. NE rogue anyone??

and to the original poster..

Umm.. You didn't get high enough to make a judgement about the world.  The low level areas just mean there are more low level destruction guys.. You can avoid open world PvP until around level 17.. or so?? I believe..

I was lvl 20 and could go 2-3 hours in PQ areas for T2 and not see another order player yet when I go to Nordland RVR they maybe 2-3 order sitting in the camp while the place was swarming with rank 11-21 dest.

I've been playing WAR since launch, and have a level 10 witch hunter. I find the game quite enjoyable, and do agree that getting pounded by chaos all the time kinda sucks.

But

I took the initiative to start a warband, and take over some areas, and the influence on the tier-one areas (I know, only tier one but still!) were favored by order.

The chaos side didn't know what hit them! It was very satisfying, and I even met some cool new people. All it takes is a  leader to lead the group, I became that leader and we accomplished something, and had a blast.

I'd give the game another try, and actually grasp the games concept, instead of waiting around for people to come to you.

BTW this isn't a bash by any means, just giving my two cents.

- Also, maybe just join a more populated server, just ask around to see which one is more populated, or the server list will let you know.

I never even logged in to WH, I ordered 2 copys from EA directly and when I saw the hassle it was to even get the game < and beta codes wich came weeks AFTER I ordered them.... > I reflected back on how EA ruined UO and completely trashed/pulled the plug on MCO out of nowhere and decided its best just to stick with WoW.As I read the warhammer forums I am glad I did too.

  Mythic was great during the original DAOC, but after the toa forced grinding crap they force fed us with artifacts and everything else, a partnership with EA just shows how far downhill they have went.

as a person in the medical field, I have had to sit through enough developmental psychology classes to see the root of this problem flashing in neon colors.

This game is very much a nintendo-style game that appeals more to the younger gaming crowd.  The human brain is pre-disposed to break away from convention during these years, also the mentality of the type of people drawn to pvp-team-arena style games such as Warhammer tend also to be fighting against structure...

VOILA!

Balancing the mentality of the people that lay this game isn't going to happen.  These small scale 'servers' (actually they are large scale arenas) can't fight many millions years years of biological evolution.

Originally posted by Lynxaria

I've been playing WAR since launch, and have a level 10 witch hunter. I find the game quite enjoyable, and do agree that getting pounded by chaos all the time kinda sucks.

But

I took the initiative to start a warband, and take over some areas, and the influence on the tier-one areas (I know, only tier one but still!) were favored by order.

The chaos side didn't know what hit them! It was very satisfying, and I even met some cool new people. All it takes is a  leader to lead the group, I became that leader and we accomplished something, and had a blast.

I'd give the game another try, and actually grasp the games concept, instead of waiting around for people to come to you.

BTW this isn't a bash by any means, just giving my two cents.

- Also, maybe just join a more populated server, just ask around to see which one is more populated, or the server list will let you know.

Already tryed doing warbands the max number of order I could get to join was 12 when we started to attack keeps within 10-15 min we where fighting dest who normally vastly outnumber and out lvl the order, Now all the answers i get to forming RVR groups is no thz or no way we don't stand a chace in hell.

Its Orders job to play smarter. And they can - cause destruction is just a mindless bandwagon. But they need to be organized and disciplined to do so. Everyone on Order wants this, but few are willing to help make it happen. The others are right - you can't wait for someone else to start a group, you need to step up and do it if there isn't one already formed.

Destruction's auto win population button is going to make them lazy in the thinking and tactics department, if it hasn't already. Use that to your advantage.

I'm sorry you quit over this, its a decision I can understand. But I think everyone would notice a huge difference in realm performance if more people tried to organize pvp efforts and supported eachother. Attack where the enemy is weak, don't confront them head-on with their main force. Hit and run.

Im coming from a arguably balanced server (Phoenix Throne) and playing on order side but I still think this holds true everywhere.

Why do people compare the "getting the game" experience with the gameplay? Stop it.

It's fine to take back your copies because of what you've read on forums, but it really is best to use your own judgment, i'm glad I did.

Jeeze I don't think one expansion for Final Fantasy XI came out the same day it was suppose to, and installing it took days due to high update traffic.

I still played it for 4 years, because I didn't listen to the whiny babies who couldn't be patient, and bashed the game because of new expansion launches,  and slow update times.
 

Originally posted by WiccanCircle

as a person in the medical field, I have had to sit through enough developmental psychology classes to see the root of this problem flashing in neon colors.

This game is very much a nintendo-style game that appeals more to the younger gaming crowd.  The human brain is pre-disposed to break away from convention during these years, also the mentality of the type of people drawn to pvp-team-arena style games such as Warhammer tend also to be fighting against structure...

VOILA!

Balancing the mentality of the people that lay this game isn't going to happen.  These small scale 'servers' (actually they are large scale arenas) can't fight many millions years years of biological evolution.

Wrong, i've met more older and more mature people on this game then any other mmo i've played. WOW Is much more dumbed down then war is.  warhammer is more about structure, people working together to accomplish bigger things, the people that don't see this, such as the OP, are the ones that are leaving and complaining about their sides losing to much.  join a group, lead a group, join a guild....organize something, make a structure, stop playing it like the scenarios are some fps quake type game,   Instead play it organized and structured with a guild, with working together with other people and you'll see your side start winning more and more.