You do realize that WoW was not the first MMORPG to have something like battlegrounds, right? As far as objectives go, there have been flag based objectives since even before the Roman Empire in 500BC. You're delusional.

Wait.... maybe, but just maybe, they took it from WoW because they did it good?

Originally posted by crunchyblack

something diffrent like, i dunno, focusing the game on RvR rather than pve?

They really dont have to do anything diffrent, they just have to make the game fun, and they did.  Im confident that any wow player who plays war for a few weeks, and like RvR will see exactly how diffrent the games are from eachother.

They are completely diffrent games, one uses a ripped off lore and applies it to pve with pvp as an after thought, the other bases its lore off a 20 year history creating their own lore, applies it to their solid experience in RvR, and provides instant RvR action withouth requireing you to grind to engame and aquire the best equips to enjoy it.

Im not convinced yet that war's pve is lacking either, pve grows on you and most people have spend what little time the game has been up focusing on the RvR.

But yeah for the first 2 hours playing either game wow>war just because wow is so easy and requires no getting use to, you just follow the npc quests.  Theres a lot more variety in war and it gets confusing, your first time playing, since you dont know just how many options on what to do you have.

Also i dont know why anyone would expect a game like war to be the opposite of wow, seeing as they copy/pasted warhammer lore into wow.  If you want the opposite of wow then you better wait for a scifi or a diffrent genere of mmo to come out.  mmorpgs have been nothing more than modified everquests/DAoC/ Ultima Onlines....they are the definiton of what a mmorpg is.  All games that came after them, including wow, are just rip offs of them.  Just like madden 08 is a ripoff of madden 98 or whatever, yet they are diffrent and fun.  This wow ripoff mentality spawned out of kids who had only played wow assuming that it was the only game to do the mmorpg thing.

 I'm quoting this again... 'cause it seems more than enough of an answer.

When will people learn: Innovation != Good Gameplay.

Blizzard took everything they have seen in MMO's and polished it up.

Just beacause they didn't innovate doesn't mean that the gameplay is going to be bad, the numbers prove that it isn't.

I tried Warhammer, and it just seems like they wanted to make a polished version of WoW with some new elements added.  It isn't that good, in fact it made me want to play WoW again.

Blizzard themselves had said they did not invent nothing new. They said they took the same thing from others and just make it more "flashy" and that is exactly what they did. Everything you see in wow you will find in other MMOs that were there before wow was even thought of. Wow didn't invent anything. They even said so. Go back and read all the media from when it was in development. So please do not say anyone has copied wow. All of you whom are wow fans.... just go back to wow. I won't say anthing about it... really. Because if you make this comment "They took the same thing from wow.....blah, blah...) then you are too hard core of a wow fan to change. And I am not saying that in a bad way so don't take it that way.

I myself am a hardcore Warhammer fan. I have been playing it since the tabletop. (Yeah i am old, I accept it). And I have played WOW. Might even have more 70's than you do. (Tooooo many). However you will never hear me say that an MMO has taken something from another. I have no idea who started it. Hmm, that is a good question. What was the first MMO that had a battleground?...  I know Earth and Beyond had one. And that was before Star Wars Galaxies, WOW, or even DAoC. Though I am sure there must have been one before that.

All this silly harping about WOW and WAR, is this going to help? I have no more 50$ too spend on clones! Just resub to WOW and play the battlefields, and you will be playing a better version of WAR! Yes and when you flame me or whatever else you do other than play the game you are so called  defending, Remember you are not playing so called great game too be on the forums. In conclusion If you like that game so much go play, if you don't join me the hater's J/K. Rather put a nice 15$ in a resub than waste time on something that has been done before, and includes lotro. When did the government pass a law approving cloning?

Originally posted by Handapanda

Wait.... maybe, but just maybe, they took it from WoW because they did it good?

exactly...I mean if something works and it's fun...hell take it and put it in your game...like now WAR brought PQs...maybe next MMOs will have these kind of things...IMO only the east take risks in MMOs