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9/15/08 2:59:03 PM#41
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
To have a PREorder, you would have to have sold to a customer. Negative. Either way you look at it those copies have been sold. They may not be in the hands of a gamer but the stores had to buy them to receive them. It's a Jeep thing. . .
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9/15/08 3:02:31 PM#42
Originally posted by Locklain Negative. Either way you look at it those copies have been sold. They may not be in the hands of a gamer but the stores had to buy them to receive them. Sounds like fuzzy fanboy logic, in my opinion. |
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9/15/08 3:21:34 PM#43
Originally posted by vernd Negative. Either way you look at it those copies have been sold. They may not be in the hands of a gamer but the stores had to buy them to receive them. Sounds like fuzzy fanboy logic, in my opinion. Oh so now what? Your going to say the store was "given" the copies on some honor policy? Look at it however you want, money was transfer and it is in Mythics pockets. If you don't like it the WoW boards are over -------->. It's a Jeep thing. . .
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9/15/08 3:37:11 PM#44
Oh come on, don't be such a crybaby. Playing Order can't be that bad. At least roll an Order player for those times where you don't have time to sit in a queue. Sorry you can't always get what you want, but I think better gameplay is more important than making every single player get exactly what they want every time. Just think of switching to order like being anorexic. You may not want to eat, but if you don't, eventually you will die.
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9/15/08 3:48:33 PM#45
Originally posted by Meltdown
Or because it is the middle of a work-day?
Yeah, I realize it is the middle of the day...The op was stating he logged in at lunch time and faced long queues. So I was letting him know that as of the time I was posting there were no queues fro any of the servers. |
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9/15/08 3:51:16 PM#46
Originally posted by Palebane
That is exacly what I'am going to do ^^. If High Elf females were pretty (as one in trailer at least) I would stick with Order. I might try Witch Hunter, or Shadow Warrior. I wanted to play as Sorcerer or Witch Elf. |
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9/15/08 4:49:51 PM#47
Originally posted by craynlon
yeah will be incredible fun for everyone when they open the 1000th server were edstruction is marked to win because they outnumber order 20:1 i guess thats what you unleash a rvr game where everyone wants to be the badass
maybe its just me but in around 50 scenarios i did today at least 2:3rd were won by destro,
Thats what everyone gets for always associating "evil" for badassedness...lol.. Even if they would have made both sides use the same classes all the way around, everyone would wanna go destruction.. Its in every game with a clearly defined "good" and "bad" side.. But im all for the underdogs :-).. My contribution has a chance of actually being noticed.. should be fun though.. “There are dread secrets that none may know and have peace. More, secrets that render whosoever knoweth them an alien unto the tribe he belongs to, that cause him to walk alone on earth, for he who takes, pays.” -E. Hoffmann Price |
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9/15/08 5:05:15 PM#48
another "Roll Order" thread... Currently Playing: 3ds Max 2009 |
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alyndale
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Joined: 10/04/06
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9/15/08 5:11:44 PM#49
Originally posted by kazson
Yes kazson, I actually brought this up this past spring. I had a feeling destruction was going to be over-populated and yep many will be forced to play a faction they didn't want to begin with. This may anger many, but who knows it could also blow over after a month or so. It just seems apparent to me that this is the draw back at present with this mmo. I wish you all the luck on finding a server that will allow you the freedom to choose...
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9/15/08 5:56:53 PM#50
There is no play advantage for the Destruction classes. Balance wise, nor play style wise. Playing Order, you have the advantage of shorter or no queues signing into the servers and you will be able to level up Realm Rank much quicker due to much shorter Scenario waits. It seems too many people prefer to "follow the herd" and/or have been influenced by efforts to make the Order races seem "uncool". You are playing a game. It's just as fun from either side. I find it just a little humorous that people would chose to play on a side with such a huge negative as the queue issues, then complain about the consequences of their choices. No one is making people play Destruction. No one is making people play Order. You know the pros and cons. That for so many people not playing the "uncool side" is more important than their ability to actually play the game with out long queues is really a bit odd in my book.
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9/15/08 6:00:35 PM#51
They could have avoided this problem if they made Order classes that have the same 'cool' factor as the destruction ones.
Oh well. They were warned.
Unfortunately I still plan to roll Dest cause I like the Magus - least played class and most OP if you know what you're doing. |
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charlizd
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Joined: 2/07/07
Live Life today, Because tomorrow is but a dream and yesterday only a |
9/15/08 6:07:10 PM#52
Originally posted by huzzah I understand exactly what you are saying but also understand what the OP is saying i mean i have no intention of rolling Order, why should i have to be forced to? well not forced but yeah you know what i mean. It does suck that this is happening but like so many others have said this was bound to happen and i hope they fix it soon or else there will be a lot of disgruntled players especially when we will be paying for a product we want maximum game time not Maximum Que time. But personally i don't know how they are gonna fix this? What can they do really.
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9/15/08 6:13:26 PM#53
I'm not sure what the server caps are but they are holding them lower so they can get the headstarts spread out over the servers. You gotta know (us) headstarts are final beta and server stress testers. 3 different rounds of rollouts! One thing you might try is Oceanic servers the lower population as the time difference helps for most US regular play hours and then on weekends/ days off ( sick days, *cough) you can stay up late or get up early and have a well populated server playing with those M8s. When I rolled last night 2am pct pop was high Dest - med Order When I logged in this afternoon pops were low on both It worked for me but then again I'm Order and West Coast USA I would like to state that in no way shape or form that anything I receive from SOE influences my opinion about SWG or their company. I’m pretty much a typical average player enjoying the game. |
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Haelix
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Joined: 8/13/08
''Wisest is he who knows he does not know'' EQ DAoC AC EQ2 DDO V HL GW LoTRO AoC WoW WAR(beta) |
9/15/08 8:02:27 PM#54
Imagine a group of 30 kids on a field wanting to play dodgeball, 20 of the kids want to be on team A due to the fact that team A has cooler uniforms than team B. Now imagine your the supervisor for this mess, you know you can't run a game where it's 20 vs 10. So what do you do? Allow the 20-10 fiasco? Or do you make 5 of the kids go over to the B team to even things up and make the game funner for all. Then 25 people get to play the team they really want and 5 have to suck it up. It's all just a game and you need to try to please as many people as you can, knowing you'll never please everybody. Giving 83.3% of your player base exactly what they want and 16.7% get kind of what they wanted isn't so bad is it? Least they get to play. And if anyone's thinking that those kids aren't paying customers, like hell, parent's pay big bucks nationwide to allow their kids to participate in sports. And these same choices are made in all of them. What would you do? The obvious answer would be to get team B cooler uniforms, your still bound to end up with imbalances sometimes, but it hopefully won't be as severe or as common as the imbalances in WAR are now. The devs aren't idiots, give them time to work it out and fix it. In the meanwhile, think of what you would do if you were supervising those 30 kids, and try to act like an adult about the whole thing. This attitude of entitlement that's so common nowadays is getting old. It's even gotten touched on by Yahtzee in his AoC review, for those of you that actually watch ZP. Give it time and see what happens, I wanted to play Destruction myself, but seeing how things are going now I'm glad I changed my mind to Order not that long ago. When you win a 20-10 dodgeball game, what did you really accomplish? However, if you win when your part of that 10. Now thats something to brag about.
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severity3
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9/15/08 8:04:15 PM#55
Originally posted by Haelix
fantastic analogy.
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9/15/08 8:16:30 PM#56
Originally posted by Haelix
lolll..nice.. Or you could be an ASS and just make the teams 10 vs 10 and tell the other kids to go somewhere else and play.. but thats bad for business , I know..lol “There are dread secrets that none may know and have peace. More, secrets that render whosoever knoweth them an alien unto the tribe he belongs to, that cause him to walk alone on earth, for he who takes, pays.” -E. Hoffmann Price |
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9/15/08 8:37:16 PM#57
Originally posted by kazson just re-read the Ops post, thats the server I'm playing on I have not had any wait times on Sunday or Monday, but maybe I'm lucky - tomorrow, when SE players join, may be a different story
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9/15/08 8:39:08 PM#58
something tells me I won't be able to make my destruction characters on the RP server come opening day. |
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9/15/08 8:47:19 PM#59
Well, at least tommarow they will open a bunch more servers, and raise the server cap. I'm planning on rolling Order, and look for a relatively empty server so hopefully I won't have to bother with a long queue tommarow morning, but I'm not niave enough to believe that I might not get stuck in a queue or two. At least the largest problem with the launch so far is its popularity and not game breaking bugs/crashes etc. I can't wait to create my Witch Hunter and slaughter some Sorcerers/Magus/Zealots/DoKs. I think I might start a SH, SM, and Archmage. Destro has some pretty cool looking classes, but after playing both sides, I actually enjoy a few of the Order classes rather then their Destro counterparts. Also I enjoy being the underdog. Hopefully I can rally my allies to slaughter some Chaos mutated ass. |
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9/15/08 9:00:14 PM#60
Probably a very unpopular idea on this board, but when this was the issue in Planetside they basically solved it by giving xp gain incentives to the underdogs, and making sure that it was pretty dynamic. So for example if destro was outnumbering order by 4:1 then maybe order would have a 4% increase in xp (just pulling out convienint numbers, these aren't suggestions for actual numbers) as it went down to 3:1 a 3% increase etc.. until when/if populations were balanced there would be no xp incentive. I think it worked pretty well for that game, and it doesn't "force" you to play order, although for those people whom count xp gain as a large enough incentive they'll convert. |
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I wanted to play Destruction as well, but will be making Order characters first so that I don't have to wait to play. At the very least I am learning my future enemies' abilities and will know their strenghts and weaknesses when I am able to switch over.
