Originally posted by Noggin

Originally posted by EbenEmael

I just walked through Mos Eisley on the Intrepid server and found 7 toons.

 

Is that 7 ATK players? ;)

Hehe, no AFKers. But maybe they all belonged to the same player?

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 Oh well , as most knows , my home server was once Kauri and as we all  know , its the least populated server.  It's not ever worth playing during  free trails  unless there is going to be a Tumbleweed targeting bonus.

 SOE says that they are working on it but if their solution is like the NGE maybe they should just quit now.

 

I will be surprised if SOE does a server merge. Leave it to them to implement the cheapest, easiest solution with no regard to what the players want (actual server merges and not cross server instancing).

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Originally posted by Ginaz

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Originally posted by Fishermage

It's my original server. It's been dead for quite some time.

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Really?  Did I ever kill your Jedi?

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Never wanted to be one in that time period. I did a bunch of the FS stuff casually with my wife, because it was fun to do; but no, I was a Pistoleer/CH, then Rifleman/CH for most of my time.

She was a Bio-E/Tailor; then a Bio-E/CH. Now we are both BM/Smugglers.

On Bloodfin I ran a TKA/Entertainer who went on to click "Jedi" with the NGE because there was nothing else to do with that character.

Originally posted by PapaLazarou

I'm on SWG right now actually, Bria server and it is very busy though like the old days most of them are AFK bots while the rest of the people are out doing their own thing. The problem with SWG is theres tooo many servers and not enough players, they need to ditch atleast 10 servers.

Though SWG has suffered from this problem even in the Pre CU days.

I'm confused here as I always remember cities being packed with players pre cu, even when I logged on the american servers being in the uk that was several hours ahead I had no problem finding other players or people to group with.

Which server were you playing on that had a population problem pre cu?

That is sad.

Originally posted by Praetoriani

That is sad.

  The whole thing is sad , SOE and SWG will never changed.  Its a good thing as gamers we have choices , Like the new Force unleashed - which I am picking up in the next 4 hours. Star Wars Done better by someone else---that's the ticket.

Originally posted by EbenEmael

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 Oh well , as most knows , my home server was once Kauri and as we all  know , its the least populated server.  It's not ever worth playing during  free trails  unless there is going to be a Tumbleweed targeting bonus.

 SOE says that they are working on it but if their solution is like the NGE maybe they should just quit now.

 

I will be surprised if SOE does a server merge. Leave it to them to implement the cheapest, easiest solution with no regard to what the players want (cross-server instancing).

  That would not be a solution for me , they might as well paint a big red target on me in a cross server instance. 

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Praetoriani

That is sad.

 

  The whole thing is sad , SOE and SWG will never changed.  Its a good thing as gamers we have choices , Like the new Force unleashed - which I am picking up in the next 4 hours. Star Wars Done better by someone else---that's the ticket.

 

 

 

Yes jestor that is the ticket a game that takes 7 hours to complete and has no replay value, a perfect game......................................................

I found a list of login/passwords from people I knew, I checked through them and found one that had some trial time left, logged in Tarquinas and did a search, 38 total people at 8:10am PST (lunch time EST) and ZERO were in Mos Eisley and 12 being the most per profession which were commando, that's REALLY bad compared to what Tarq used to have.

Originally posted by sookster54

I found a list of login/passwords from people I knew, I checked through them and found one that had some trial time left, logged in Tarquinas and did a search, 38 total people at 8:10am PST (lunch time EST) and ZERO were in Mos Eisley and 12 being the most per profession which were commando, that's REALLY bad compared to what Tarq used to have.

And I bet all 38 characters where in Restus ganking anything they could to get that extra speshul piece of fat lootz....

Originally posted by starman999

Mos Eisley..... You will never find a more empty hive of scum and villainy.

 

The game is nothing more than a painful reminder of what once was. What started out as a game that would change the face of MMOs ended up a bad clone of every other cookie cutter game out there.

I can honestly say that SWG in the few months after release, before Doc buffs and Jedi ruined the game, was the most fun I have ever had in an MMO and I have played nearly all of them. Never has a game since then offered as much variety or as many options to its players.

 

 

Man that hits the nail on the head.  I went back after the NGE once.  It was exactly that: " a painful reminder of what once was."  I'll never do that to myself again. 
 

To be honest, at least on Ahazi, before they forced all the noobs to spawn in Eisley, it was not that heavily populated a city.  Coronet, Theed, Bestine, and Dant MO were more crowded.   Originally you could start your SWG experience on Tatooine, Naboo, Corellia, Rori, or Talus.  Then they changed it to start all new toons at Mos Eisley, and they had some actual tutorial quest content there to bring players along.  So Eisley was populated, and I liked to visit there to answer questions and help non-beggar noobs with credits, resources, or the odd non-CH mount I might have available to hand out.

At first, it was here's a blaster and a melon.  You're on your own, kid!

Once Mos Eisley was made Mos Noobie, then things picked up.  Later on, after the NGE hit, on my first vet trial it seemed that the ONLY populated NPC cities were Mos Eisley and Theed.  Coronet was a ghost town, and Bestine was only slightly less so.  The NGE closed so many accounts that the cities were virtually deserted.  Even Mensix on Mustafar slowly turned into a ghost town after the repeatable for signficant XP flea missions were nerfed.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Praetoriani

That is sad.

 

  The whole thing is sad , SOE and SWG will never changed.  Its a good thing as gamers we have choices , Like the new Force unleashed - which I am picking up in the next 4 hours. Star Wars Done better by someone else---that's the ticket.

 

 

 

 

Yes jestor that is the ticket a game that takes 7 hours to complete and has no replay value, a perfect game......................................................

  Knowing that SOE has nothing to do with it - why yes it is.

Originally posted by SioBabble

To be honest, at least on Ahazi, before they forced all the noobs to spawn in Eisley, it was not that heavily populated a city.  Coronet, Theed, Bestine, and Dant MO were more crowded.   Originally you could start your SWG experience on Tatooine, Naboo, Corellia, Rori, or Talus.  Then they changed it to start all new toons at Mos Eisley, and they had some actual tutorial quest content there to bring players along.  So Eisley was populated, and I liked to visit there to answer questions and help non-beggar noobs with credits, resources, or the odd non-CH mount I might have available to hand out.

At first, it was here's a blaster and a melon.  You're on your own, kid!

 

Once Mos Eisley was made Mos Noobie, then things picked up.  Later on, after the NGE hit, on my first vet trial it seemed that the ONLY populated NPC cities were Mos Eisley and Theed.  Coronet was a ghost town, and Bestine was only slightly less so.  The NGE closed so many accounts that the cities were virtually deserted.  Even Mensix on Mustafar slowly turned into a ghost town after the repeatable for signficant XP flea missions were nerfed.

/raiseshand

Rolled Marksman.  Started out in Doerba Goefel (sp) waaaayy over in the NE section of Corellia, all by my lonesome.

What did I get?  Noob Marksman clothes, Spec.Ed.Goggles, stupid Melon, and a blaster pistol.

And nevermind that I wanted to be using rifles but got stuck with a pistol

Yeah, I recall on Ahazi how empty Mos Eisley was until they made it the mandatory newbie starting zone.  Everywhere else was packed with people, but Mos Eisley wasn't.

Originally posted by starman999

Mos Eisley..... You will never find a more empty hive of scum and villainy.

 

The game is nothing more than a painful reminder of what once was. What started out as a game that would change the face of MMOs ended up a bad clone of every other cookie cutter game out there.

I can honestly say that SWG in the few months after release, before Doc buffs and Jedi ruined the game, was the most fun I have ever had in an MMO and I have played nearly all of them. Never has a game since then offered as much variety or as many options to its players.

 

 

Case in point are old player vendor signs.  Signs that used to summarily promote their products, telling the key stats to justify their purchase.

Stats that have not been used in the game since 2005.

And the signs are still there.

Originally posted by Warmaker

Rolled Marksman.  Started out in Doerba Goefel (sp) waaaayy over in the NE section of Corellia, all by my lonesome.

Hey!  I was "born" in Doaba Gurfel, too!  All my toons met at the University there.

My first toon started out as a scout in Doaba, where I spent a lot of time in beta.  In beta, scouts got generic crafting tools as starting equipment, but they changed that for launch and I had to buy one for like 200 credits (a LOT of money back then) to make traps and camps.

Later on I would always start out as an artisann (they always got the generic crafting tool), then pick up scout and marksman, later medic and brawler.

Good times, good times!

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by Praetoriani

That is sad.

 

  The whole thing is sad , SOE and SWG will never changed.  Its a good thing as gamers we have choices , Like the new Force unleashed - which I am picking up in the next 4 hours. Star Wars Done better by someone else---that's the ticket.

 

 

 

 

Yes jestor that is the ticket a game that takes 7 hours to complete and has no replay value, a perfect game......................................................

 

  Knowing that SOE has nothing to do with it - why yes it is.

 

 

Another post hits the nail on the head.  Would I pay 39 bucks Canadian to play an enjoyable StarWars game where no greedy businessman can walk into my house, delete all my game progress, and rewrite the code so the game no longer functions?  Why yes, I think I would.  In fact I just did :).

If you want to pay 15 bucks a month to play a game where a greedy businessman can and regularly has deleted all your progress and had the code rewritten numerous times so that the game no longer functions that is your perogative.  I say, "no thanks."

Another beautiful part of the unleashed deal is that I actually own the game.  I'm not going to pay for it, and then have it shut down, or completely altered at a greedy businessman's sole discretion.  Nope, this baby's mine.  I'm going to play the hell out of it, and then let my son play it, and then my daughter (she's a bit young to play it on her own atm).  If we like it a lot, we'll probably play it again, especially if it has choice points that can alter the outcome.  After we've played it to death, I'll take it to EB games and trade it in on another game that I will own, enjoy, pass down to my kids, etc.  Sounds like a hell of a plan to me.

Originally posted by SioBabble

Originally posted by Warmaker

Rolled Marksman.  Started out in Doerba Goefel (sp) waaaayy over in the NE section of Corellia, all by my lonesome.

 

Hey!  I was "born" in Doaba Gurfel, too!  All my toons met at the University there.

My first toon started out as a scout in Doaba, where I spent a lot of time in beta.  In beta, scouts got generic crafting tools as starting equipment, but they changed that for launch and I had to buy one for like 200 credits (a LOT of money back then) to make traps and camps.

Later on I would always start out as an artisann (they always got the generic crafting tool), then pick up scout and marksman, later medic and brawler.

Good times, good times!

There was nobody at Doerba Goefel when I started

I didn't know Coronet was one of the "hubs" of the game yet.  But there were 4 things certain when i started.

1) You start off without enough money to buy a shuttle trip to another locale on the same planet.

2) I didn't know WHERE to go to find "hubs" of players.

3) Those really big hills around Doerba Goefel are steep.  I immediately found the usefulness of Scout's Terrain Negotiation mods.  Ever since discovering this, I have maintained a bit of Terrain Negotiation in my templates for fighting outside towns and in rough, steep terrain.  Great for both PvE and PvP.

4) I heard that the best place to join the Empire was taking a trip to Bestine, Tatooine.  But that costed more than a thousand credits.  You start out practically flat broke in the old SWG.

Ahh, good times, good times.  Things moved along faster when a vet player came by on a swoop while I was getting my a** kicked by some worts outside town.  He showed me the in's and out's to get started.

Especially Fatigue and Wounds.  1/3 of my HAM were blacked out from Wounds.  I had more than 300 Fatigue.

When I first started the game I rolled a character on a few different servers, picked Nashall, Kor Vella, Keren and Bestine, they were all jam packed (and this was July-Sept 2003) and when I made enough credit to travel to other cities and planets, I was overwhelmed by Coronet's population- Cnet was THE place to be if you wanted to meet people, make money selling stuff, find people to run missions with.

Over the months the main hangouts dwiddled down to Coronet, Bestine and Theed then eventually only Theed and Coronet until SOE changed the stating location to only Mos Eisley. So now with the NGE, pretty much the only hangout is Restuss.

Originally posted by SioBabble

To be honest, at least on Ahazi, before they forced all the noobs to spawn in Eisley, it was not that heavily populated a city.  Coronet, Theed, Bestine, and Dant MO were more crowded.   Originally you could start your SWG experience on Tatooine, Naboo, Corellia, Rori, or Talus.  Then they changed it to start all new toons at Mos Eisley, and they had some actual tutorial quest content there to bring players along.  So Eisley was populated, and I liked to visit there to answer questions and help non-beggar noobs with credits, resources, or the odd non-CH mount I might have available to hand out.

At first, it was here's a blaster and a melon.  You're on your own, kid!

 

Once Mos Eisley was made Mos Noobie, then things picked up.  Later on, after the NGE hit, on my first vet trial it seemed that the ONLY populated NPC cities were Mos Eisley and Theed.  Coronet was a ghost town, and Bestine was only slightly less so.  The NGE closed so many accounts that the cities were virtually deserted.  Even Mensix on Mustafar slowly turned into a ghost town after the repeatable for signficant XP flea missions were nerfed.

Oh man what I would give to have the blaster and melon again.....lol.

I have to agree, Mos Eisley was pretty quiet pre-cu as I remember. I loved the fact that you were given a choice of what city to start in back in the begining. I started in Tyrena on Corellia.

I can remember when Cnet was so crowded that the lag was insane during peak hours. Keep in mind, that was back when you had to wait 10 minutes for a shuttle in the starport.

Sooo much changed and so much lost. SWG was my first MMO experience and sad to say, I've never had that same experience with any  other..........I guess there's always hope.