Ok another issue with crafting.  I decided to make an appothecary and and started making potions.  With the starting stuff you can buy I got upto a skill of 27 and it seems to have pretty much stopped leveling up around 25.  I got to 27 by doing many many combines.

Anyway I found an ingredient that is skill 15 appothecary and decided to try making something with that.  I have tried at least 10-15 times and failed every single time.  Given that materials need to be found and so far I haven't seen stuff below 15 I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing?  Anyway play with crafting get it working or is it just broken or really unbalanced. 

Also is there a broker in the game and when do you find that broker?

If your recipie fails, then it will continue to fail every time you try to craft it. They don't stop you from being dumb with this system they will let you try to make things that don't work.

Originally posted by jezvin

If your recipie fails, then it will continue to fail every time you try to craft it. They don't stop you from being dumb with this system they will let you try to make things that don't work.

So what you are suggesting is that the recipe is wrong?  That wouldn't really make much sense since the upgraded component is the same as the component from a recipe that worked it is just a better version.  You know a green version that is hopefully more potent.

Also with a skill of 27 where the ingredients are all skill lvl 1 and just one item is skill lvl 15 I'm thinking I should be skilled enough to make the potion...

So maybe like you say it is a wrong recipe and I'm just too dumb to figure it out but I'm thinking the crafting system has some issues that need to be resolved maybe a better message or something if the recipe is wrong.

Broker, or Auction House, is in, yes. If you're playing Destruction, go to Inevitable City, go to the "main circle"  area and you'll find the npc in the southwestern area, iirc.

Crafting:

Get a gathering profession, it will give you ingredients of different lvls. I'm a scavenger, and I've found a lot of lvl 10 mains. Make sure you use enough waters (yes, up to 3 each time), and the recipe will rarely fail. When you use only lvl 1 ingredients, you will quickly stop getting skill lvls. But if you only use ONE item at higher lvls (ie, lvl 15 main), and rest is lvl 1, you will be able to progress further.

Unbalanced? Crafting, at least apothecary, is completely useless, the stuff you make is crap. It's better to sell what you scavenge. But follow my advice above if you still want to do it.

Originally posted by Netspook

Broker, or Auction House, is in, yes. If you're playing Destruction, go to Inevitable City, go to the "main circle"  area and you'll find the npc in the southwestern area, iirc.

Crafting:

Get a gathering profession, it will give you ingredients of different lvls. I'm a scavenger, and I've found a lot of lvl 10 mains. Make sure you use enough waters (yes, up to 3 each time), and the recipe will rarely fail. When you use only lvl 1 ingredients, you will quickly stop getting skill lvls. But if you only use ONE item at higher lvls (ie, lvl 15 main), and rest is lvl 1, you will be able to progress further.

Unbalanced? Crafting, at least apothecary, is completely useless, the stuff you make is crap. It's better to sell what you scavenge. But follow my advice above if you still want to do it.

Thanks for the info on the broker. 

Yeah I noticed the potions I'm making are pretty poor.  I'm a scavenger and like you I have found some ingredients although I found lvl 15 ones on maybe one 10.  But I haven't tried 3 of the same type of subingredient maybe that will make it easier to make.  I've been doing 3 differnet ones as it didn't occur to me that they could all be the same.

I'll give that a try and see if I can do it successfully.  I still think that a lvl 15 item should be craftable by a lvl 27 crafter....  That or make the lvl of the item 30 or something so the number is more meaningful.

Stabilizers such as Cloudy Water are essential at lower levels, sometimes even putting 3 of them!

I'm waiting till live before I even bother with professions.

I suggest you wait too when more people know how they work if you have questions or the mats pop up in the auction.

Originally posted by hardy83

I'm waiting till live before I even bother with professions.

I suggest you wait too when more people know how they work if you have questions or the mats pop up in the auction.

Yeah don't bother testing it to see if it works or not. Forget about maybe finding the odd bug to report that just might get fixed before you really get to craft.

Crafting is going to be deleted from the game soon.   They barely have a skeleton in place and they aren't working on it at all.  They probably should have announced it's removal last month when they eliminated the cities and classes.

It has fallen into that catagory where " we don't have enough time to make it fun".

Potions are getting an upgrade in the next patch for what it is worth.

If you are using a skill 15 main ingredient you might be having problems because you are using skill 1 stabalizers(I forget what they are called). Each different type of ingredient does something different, when you are first trying to make a new potion you generally need 3 good stabalizers to make it, as you get more skilled you'll be able to not use the stabalizers and instead add in other ingredients that make it last longer etc.

The actual crafting system isn't bad, it certainly needs some polish though and I'd have liked to have seen more than 2 crafts in the game. It is a not a system where one player can create everything by himself at all though. You are going to need to rely on others or the AH to be able to make everything.

Originally posted by Azrile

Crafting is going to be deleted from the game soon.   They barely have a skeleton in place and they aren't working on it at all.  They probably should have announced it's removal last month when they eliminated the cities and classes.

It has fallen into that catagory where " we don't have enough time to make it fun".

That would be a HUGE mistake.

Are there RP servers and dances in the game?

*** 25 hours waiting for the GOA mail to activate ****

Originally posted by Ender4

If you are using a skill 15 main ingredient you might be having problems because you are using skill 1 stabalizers

Wrong.

If you have high enough skills, you can ie use a lvl 75 main and lvl 1 waters. Without problems, and still get skill-ups.

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Originally posted by Netspook

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Originally posted by Ender4

If you are using a skill 15 main ingredient you might be having problems because you are using skill 1 stabalizers

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Wrong.
If you have high enough skills, you can ie use a lvl 75 main and lvl 1 waters. Without problems, and still get skill-ups.

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Not wrong at all, he has 27 skill which is most likely not high enough to skimp on the other parts. I haven't tested Apothecary since back in 3.1 or so but unless things have really changed he should be able to make a skill 15 req item at skill 27 if he is using the right stabalizers.

Originally posted by memoir

Originally posted by Azrile

Crafting is going to be deleted from the game soon.   They barely have a skeleton in place and they aren't working on it at all.  They probably should have announced it's removal last month when they eliminated the cities and classes.

It has fallen into that catagory where " we don't have enough time to make it fun".

 

That would be a HUGE mistake.

Are there RP servers and dances in the game?

 

 

*** 25 hours waiting for the GOA mail to activate ****

no dances in current patch

um rp servers are a yes not in beta though only core i believe

saying crafting is going to be deleted is false

wheres ur proof

link something that makes u think that

age of fail released worse crap then there crafting system

o and trust me crafting was an after thought but itll get patched

There are a bunch of crafting changes in patch 4.2(one of which is increasing stability on cloudy water) on the test server so I wouldn't put much weight into what he said, don't worry~

There are no dances but there are /katadance where you do a kata with your weapons.

Originally posted by memoir

Originally posted by Azrile

Crafting is going to be deleted from the game soon.   They barely have a skeleton in place and they aren't working on it at all.  They probably should have announced it's removal last month when they eliminated the cities and classes.

It has fallen into that catagory where " we don't have enough time to make it fun".

 

That would be a HUGE mistake.

Are there RP servers and dances in the game?

 

 

*** 25 hours waiting for the GOA mail to activate ****

RP servers will be up for LAUNCH not Open Beta...Dancing..everyone and their brother has known for a year now there is no Dancing...but there is /special  (hehe).  There's a HUGE list of Emotes they just refuse to do dancing.  Its been done and its all corny and we're all tired of dancing naked toons begging for gold and claiming its RP.

Originally posted by Ender4

There are a bunch of crafting changes in patch 4.2 on the test server so I wouldn't put much weight into what he said, don't worry~

Is there any public info about this patch?

On the EU beta forums, we haven't seen patch notes in ages...

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by Ender4

There are a bunch of crafting changes in patch 4.2 on the test server so I wouldn't put much weight into what he said, don't worry~

Is there any public info about this patch?

On the EU beta forums, we haven't seen patch notes in ages...

On the patcher it tells you.

Originally posted by Noggin

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by Ender4

There are a bunch of crafting changes in patch 4.2 on the test server so I wouldn't put much weight into what he said, don't worry~

Is there any public info about this patch?

On the EU beta forums, we haven't seen patch notes in ages...

 

On the patcher it tells you.

Nope.

The socalled patch notes there are just a lot of bs about how excited they are.

I can see patch notes under that.

US Closed Beta.