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damian7
Apprentice Member
Joined: 4/20/06
why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid? |
9/13/08 11:12:47 PM#81
Originally posted by templarga
You know I truly wonder if you believe the crap you are spewing in posts like these. You realize that its the blinded masses like you who allow Funcom to get away with releasing a game like Age of Conan. But that is beside the point. let me throw in a few things: 1. You have never played WAR nor did you pre-order it. You have no reason to address Mythic and its beyond contradictory that you are trying to tell Mythic that "consumers deserve more". Mythic has not lied or deliberately stretched the truth to conceal the issues with their game. 2. if you did play WAR, then why? I mean "AoC 4 life" so why did you even try WAR? If you are loving AOC so much, what's up with trying another game - especially a game that is your AOC's main competition. 3. You are comparing a game in open beta to a game that should be close to perfect. AOC has been out for almost 4 months. Does the faulty logic of such a comparison not even matter to you?
don't be so hard on him, he's just a kid. the children, they feel that it should be game vs game, for some bizarre reason.
aoc4life indeed. wonder if he'll be swg4life and matrix4life as well. could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please? |
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9/13/08 11:23:18 PM#82
Originally posted by AlexanderTD
Oh, another reasonable post about AOC :) AOC isn't perfect, but I agree with everything you said. It's not like it's the only MMO i choose to play, but it's the only MMO i CAN play, because rest feels give me the feeling i only had when playing very old games on 386, 486 computers 10+ years ago :) And speaking of combat - like i said many times, "i'm not clicking anymore". AOCs combat at least feels like you have to think, do combos, blocks and stuff. It's not Devil may cry or something, but WO's "clicking" is a joke anyway. But some ppl actualy like diablo style of play. "Don't think - just click" so it's all up personal to taste. Yea, extremely reasonable post right? Yea, thinking...right. Nobody ever messes with sheilds in combat, its a clunky mecahnic with clunky controls. Also, CoS X, CoS IX, CoS IIX. I was rooting for that game to get fixed, but it hasn't happened, horrible class balance, 50 people per instance? I can go to a respawn point and go to a different instance and *poof* Pretty much nobody there on the pretty huge maps with a cap of 50 people. Game needs serious overhauling, and they won't get the funding they need, had potential, and still does a bit, but nothing mind-blowing. They tried something new, but didn't follow-through, could have been great but they messed up, not the games fault, Funcom dropped he ball, especially on customer service. |
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9/14/08 4:10:12 AM#83
Even though I think Age of Conman is an utterly horrible game, I have to agree that it's lightyears better than WAR. I actually played AoC for almost 3 weeks before quitting, but I couldn't stand more than 15 minutes in WAR before I had to find a bucket. |
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9/14/08 4:34:55 AM#84
Originally posted by tarkin1980 lol you spent a whole fifteen minutes in the game! Wow, where gratz on that achievement then! After playing both AOC and WAR (please note that neither was for 15 minutes either ;)) I find this post somewhat bemusing. The only thing AOC has going for it over WAR is the fact that its graphics engine is aledgedly better. I say aledgedly because actually I think the art work in AOC is far far worse than WAR's, so what you end up with in AOC is a supposedly better graphics engine on a game that to my mind looks worse, go figure!! The UI, a hell of a lot of the scenery, the way your character runs and jumps, mob drops in AOC all look like they were created by the office YTS boy when he had five or so minutes to spare. Yes the special combos moves look good, with the blood splattering the screen but for me it doesn't make up for the completly souless feel and general lack of fun the game is in other departments.
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9/14/08 5:57:55 AM#85
Ok . Now i cannot say how WAR will be at end game but i have to disagree. Graphics - yes AoC outperforms WAR.WAR uses old style Warhammer graphics and looks colorful but is old looking even though better then WoW graphics Performance- got to give it to AoC.I played AoC with many standing near me and got zero lag with 3gb and vista 64 however in a rvr battle i got some lag with WAR which settled with adding back 1gb to make it 4gb.So if you take into account the fact that WAR graphics is older then yes it should perform better with AoC with a similar system. PvE-now so far i think WAR pve is better and easier but its more of a toss of a coin and end game pve in WAR is unknown but then again AoC pve is basically non existant . Crafting- sorry but even though WAR crafting is not the greatest it is ok .AoC crafting is broken and has stupid requirements making it fustrating and annoying.So again WAR wins.Though if i was playing a mmorpg purely for crafting i would play something else but this 2 games PvP-Ok this is the new DADDY of pvp.RvR DAoC style with improvement = new pvp king.No contest anywhere for it . Overall i decided to finally give up on AoC for WAR.I might be back in future but for now WAR gets my thumbs up
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9/14/08 6:00:43 AM#86
Trust me, I really really wanted to give WAR a chance.. I've been into warhammer since 1996 and GW games since around 1992 and I'm a big fan.. but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I knew before I logged in that it was a WoW clone (and I hate WoW), but since it's warhammer... you know.. I had to try it. |
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9/14/08 6:09:05 AM#87
graphics go play first person... i play games for content, environment, PvP,and a good economy/crafting stm ( just like makin stuff). if graphics mattered people woulnt still be paying for games like UO. |
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9/14/08 6:18:33 AM#88
Originally posted by tarkin1980
15 minutes does not give you the experience to say anything about War.. If you dont like the graphics then fine.. Say you dont like the graphics.. But a game is not about graphics.. Sorry
I played AoC for 3 months.. At first I was all exited about the graphics and the posibilities.. Then I got to the higher lvled stuff.. Seiging was frustraiting.. Crafting is a mess.. I mean the lvl 60 mobs dont even drop the right resources to craft still.. And grey map/ out of memory errors.. I bought a new computer JUST for this game and was so crushed when I couldn't even stomach logging in to it because I knew it would be a hassle to play.. War may not be up to "Everyones" standards as far as graphics go.. But it will apeal to the larger market and will have people playing.. Why else do you play a MMO? Because I think AoC players are getting sick of waiting for the next "Update that will fix everything" and are either moving on.. Or going back to the previous game.. AoC will soon be vaporware |
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9/14/08 6:32:25 AM#89
Woot! Im happy you realised WAR wasent for you. Can't say were going to miss you.
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9/14/08 6:44:08 AM#90
Originally posted by tarkin1980
And there is why you hate the game. You should read this: http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/onlinenow225/092008/2588_Playing-a-new-game-How-it-should-be-looked-at The way you looked at the game, you were destined for failure. Good job on how close minded you are. |
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9/14/08 6:49:01 AM#91
So I'm close minded because I don't like a certain type of games? Yikes, THAT's close minded. I think I'm pretty open minded to actually try a game of a genre I don't even like, but hey.. |
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9/14/08 6:49:38 AM#92
Originally posted by supbro Yea like Vanguard did |
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9/14/08 9:29:17 AM#93
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jaycee2006
 Novice Member
Joined: 4/19/07
Veteran of the ongoing GOA disaster, 7th september 08. hah |
9/14/08 11:37:32 AM#94
Originally posted by supbro
The benchmark? Is that why WAR has more people in the game than age of conan at the moment, and its not even released? Is that why I quit age of conan and LOVE war? Is that why WOW has over 10 million subscribers after four years? Benchmark.. lol. But, thats my opinion, if your happy, thats great. I just dont think its worth making a thread telling us, were happy in the same or other games aswell you know. |
Originally posted by jaycee2006
The benchmark? Is that why WAR has more people in the game than age of conan at the moment, and its not even released? Is that why I quit age of conan and LOVE war? Is that why WOW has over 10 million subscribers after four years? Benchmark.. lol. But, thats my opinion, if your happy, thats great. I just dont think its worth making a thread telling us, were happy in the same or other games aswell you know.
I'm making a thread about my opinion on AoC > WAR in the AoC forum. I'm not sure what your doing in the AoC forum if you don't even like the game or play it anymore???? just to play the troll i guess
Supbro
GW2 the future of MMO gaming |
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jaycee2006
Novice Member
Joined: 4/19/07
Veteran of the ongoing GOA disaster, 7th september 08. hah |
9/14/08 12:21:54 PM#96
Originally posted by supbro
I'm making a thread about my opinion on AoC > WAR in the AoC forum. I'm not sure what your doing in the AoC forum if you don't even like the game or play it anymore???? just to play the troll i guess
Supbro
No, I just dont like the fact your making a thread sying ''I like aoc'' so do many other people, and your dissing another game at the same time, if its that great, why are you on here, instead of playing |
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9/14/08 12:31:56 PM#97
Originally posted by openedge1 I prefer to call it evolutionary. It is a change to the mind numbingly slow mo combat of games like WAR, WoW, EQ2, Vanguard. I also feel that the fact no Elves exists in AoC helps me appreciate the more realistic view of a Fantasy world. This is why LOTRO falls flat. You have this wonderful Fantasy setting, yet it is trying to go realistic thanks to Tolkien's low magic, and based on their scrips, I doubt it is working. Now, if Bioware releases its cool combat systems from the Neverwinter/Baldurs Gate series into an MMO, or even the Mass Effect combat, then we could see more changes, and maybe MMO's will not become stale. But, as long as players accept the status quo, this genre is going to stagnate. Funcom may have screwed up AoC, but if anything, they at least tried to make a few changes and stray from the norm of DIKU based MMO's. Thanks for that at least.
Going to have to call bullshit on this post. Spent the day trying WHO's beta yesterday, played a warrior priest for awhile, did a bunch of RvR (R/r both hit 11), and there's nothing slow about the combat system, infact I found myself dying quite fast now and then, going from about 1/3 hp to dead often. I'd also taken down dps and tank players using my WP, something that you won't EVER do vs a guardian in AoC due to the stupidly large amount of HoT you can get going in that game.
Also, WHO had the nice 'old' method of auto attack, which is good at keeping fights from turning into dances like in AoC where you're constantly turning and praying you're looking at someone enough for your hit to go off, unless you're lagging, then you're just hosed.
AoC looks better, WHO plays better, runs better, and was far more fun with PQs and so forth. My only gripe would be that it seems damn near impossible to get better than the green lesser loot bags in a public quest nomatter what you do since the bags appear to have some randomization to them before the rolling to give them out.
Lastly, WHO's beta yesterday was more stable than AoC ever was for the 2 months I wasted money on it. I played it for nearly 12 hours and had no CTDs, no BSOD, and only about 4-5 couple second freezes, which only ever happened after dying or coming back from a RvR in an area with a lot of people. The longest I ever got AoC t run before either crashing or forcing me to reset it, was 3 hours in July about a week before my account lapsed.
AoC only beats WHO for graphics, and you'd have to be a complete moron to place graphics as any sort of factor in determining if you will play a game since they add nothing to the game, and graphics are much easier to update (see EVE Online) than having to try and fix your game's engine and a mountain of bugs. WHO will have AoC's graphics long before AoC has WHO's stability. AoC is AO all over again, period. |
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I'm making a thread about my opinion on AoC > WAR in the AoC forum. I'm not sure what your doing in the AoC forum if you don't even like the game or play it anymore???? just to play the troll i guess
Supbro
No, I just dont like the fact your making a thread sying ''I like aoc'' so do many other people, and your dissing another game at the same time, if its that great, why are you on here, instead of playing
Id get bored if i played the same game all time, whats your excuse for being here if you dont like it?
Supbro GW2 the future of MMO gaming |
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9/14/08 1:57:02 PM#99
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9/15/08 5:52:05 PM#100
Originally posted by babac Yea like Vanguard did
Problem with Vanguard is they kept telling us this would be The MMO of All MMO's, so the game didn't live up to the hype. All Funcom said about AoC is that it was M-rated and would stay true to the original stories by Howard. |
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Biggest failure since viking raider-king Olaf the Red ordered 20,000 helmets with the horns on the inside. I'm glad I never got around to pay for this.
Originally posted by jaycee2006 
