Originally posted by temuchin

You seem to have taken the entire thing personally.  And all their "crying" has made you as cranky yourself as a 2 year old with collic.

If we were talking about server instability or hardware failure due to stress loads... maybe even if we were talking about items disappearing on zoning or continuous server failure causing rollbacks you might have a point.. all par for the course in beta.  But the issue here is login serverlol.  Regardless of all else,  the first rule of Open Beta is to GET TESTERS IN TO TEST.  Anything less is corporate malfeasance... you're burning thousands upon thousands of dollars and not even getting any feedback from testers on the stuff you need to test.  All that hardware and extra staff during a crucial period going to waste, all for an issue that should have already been addressed before you even thought of open beta.

I'm pretty sure neither Mythic nor GOA thought the entire point of Open Beta was to test whether they could keep a straight database on their login server and/or can mail out the proper codes and not "saturate" their beta keys.  Keep in mind that it's not even a question of stress on the login server... simply no one checked the data... since OPEN BETA is to test all the crap that you cant test internally and in Alpha... database management 100% definitely indubitably isn't on that list of "to do" in Open Beta.

I dont have to deal with GOA being in the US, but LOL@U.  Take a page from your own playbook and QQ about QQ.   As someone who's been in dozens and dozens of these, beta (and alpha) is a 2 way street between the contributions of both testers and devs... neither is "giving" anything to the other they're both working together equally towards the same goal.   Only noob testers take the attitude that "it's beta and it's free so dont say nothing about nothing... just kiss their asses."  As a tester you're THERE to CALL OUT the crap as you see it.  Not even being able to log in certainly qualifies as the above.  The most important thing as a beta tester is to comprehend which snafus are unavoidable and which are assfuck retarded/totally unnecessary issues.  You fail.

Legendary post.

I agree it's a fiasco, and the EU players should be upset to a degree, but the amount of threads flooding these boards and anything to do with Warhammer whining about GOA is absurd.  I counted 23 threads in the first 4 pages of threads earlier that had to do with GOA.  All the same topic, same whining, same, same, same.  There is no need for thousands of topics about the same thing.  It makes me not even able to sympathize with you guys.

GOA dropped the ball.  Mythic knows about it.  Hundreds of thousands of players know about it.  We don't need 20+ threads a day about the same thing.  Please consolidate the threads. 

the irony of a OP that has no clue about anything that is going on, posting a whine telling others not to whine.

Originally posted by Draconus

I understand that you guys are mad the servers are not working for you, BUT this is a TEST.

would you rather all this stuff happen now or when the game is really live?

this is the reason for OPEN BETA.

I am sorry things are not working out the way you would like them to, but if this is not the live game then you really have nothing to cry about.

When the server launch live and there are still problems I will say you have something to complain about, but for now you are servering the perpose of a tester.

Do some research into the issue before you go shouting your mouth off.

If the US players had had to stomach what the EU community has so far, these forums would have been brought to a standstill.

Calling us 'cry babies' does nothing but make you a troll.

Congrats .

Originally posted by temuchin

You fail.

But you win at forum PvP... Sir!!!

Awesome post

Originally posted by Draconus

I understand that you guys are mad the servers are not working for you, BUT this is a TEST.

would you rather all this stuff happen now or when the game is really live?

this is the reason for OPEN BETA.

I am sorry things are not working out the way you would like them to, but if this is not the live game then you really have nothing to cry about.

When the server launch live and there are still problems I will say you have something to complain about, but for now you are servering the perpose of a tester.

Exactly its open beta day not.. we cant fix our shit to start the open beta day!

Originally posted by ProfRed

I agree it's a fiasco, and the EU players should be upset to a degree, but the amount of threads flooding these boards and anything to do with Warhammer whining about GOA is absurd.  I counted 23 threads in the first 4 pages of threads earlier that had to do with GOA.  All the same topic, same whining, same, same, same.  There is no need for thousands of topics about the same thing.  It makes me not even able to sympathize with you guys.

GOA dropped the ball.  Mythic knows about it.  Hundreds of thousands of players know about it.  We don't need 20+ threads a day about the same thing.  Please consolidate the threads. 

Consolidation is something I can agree with.

Originally posted by temuchin

You seem to have taken the entire thing personally.  And all their "crying" has made you as cranky yourself as a 2 year old with collic.

If we were talking about server instability or hardware failure due to stress loads... maybe even if we were talking about items disappearing on zoning or continuous server failure causing rollbacks you might have a point.. all par for the course in beta.  But the issue here is login serverlol.  Regardless of all else,  the first rule of Open Beta is to GET TESTERS IN TO TEST.  Anything less is corporate malfeasance... you're burning thousands upon thousands of dollars and not even getting any feedback from testers on the stuff you need to test.  All that hardware and extra staff during a crucial period going to waste, all for an issue that should have already been addressed before you even thought of open beta.

I'm pretty sure neither Mythic nor GOA thought the entire point of Open Beta was to test whether they could keep a straight database on their login server and/or can mail out the proper codes and not "saturate" their beta keys.  Keep in mind that it's not even a question of stress on the login server... simply no one checked the data... since OPEN BETA is to test all the crap that you cant test internally and in Alpha... database management 100% definitely indubitably isn't on that list of "to do" in Open Beta.

I dont have to deal with GOA being in the US, but LOL@U.  Take a page from your own playbook and QQ about QQ.   As someone who's been in dozens and dozens of these, beta (and alpha) is a 2 way street between the contributions of both testers and devs... neither is "giving" anything to the other they're both working together equally towards the same goal.   Only noob testers take the attitude that "it's beta and it's free so dont say nothing about nothing... just kiss their asses."  As a tester you're THERE to CALL OUT the crap as you see it.  Not even being able to log in certainly qualifies as the above.  The most important thing as a beta tester is to comprehend which snafus are unavoidable and which are assfuck retarded/totally unnecessary issues.  You fail.

Originally posted by ProfRed

I counted 23 threads in the first 4 pages of threads earlier that had to do with GOA.  All the same topic, same whining, same, same, same.  There is no need for thousands of topics about the same thing.  

Good point. Of course, it doesn't help that the OP... an american... made a new topic called "to all the GOA cry babies" eh?

Originally posted by temuchin

You seem to have taken the entire thing personally.  And all their "crying" has made you as cranky yourself as a 2 year old with collic.

If we were talking about server instability or hardware failure due to stress loads... maybe even if we were talking about items disappearing on zoning or continuous server failure causing rollbacks you might have a point.. all par for the course in beta.  But the issue here is login serverlol.  Regardless of all else,  the first rule of Open Beta is to GET TESTERS IN TO TEST.  Anything less is corporate malfeasance... you're burning thousands upon thousands of dollars and not even getting any feedback from testers on the stuff you need to test.  All that hardware and extra staff during a crucial period going to waste, all for an issue that should have already been addressed before you even thought of open beta.

I'm pretty sure neither Mythic nor GOA thought the entire point of Open Beta was to test whether they could keep a straight database on their login server and/or can mail out the proper codes and not "saturate" their beta keys.  Keep in mind that it's not even a question of stress on the login server... simply no one checked the data... since OPEN BETA is to test all the crap that you cant test internally and in Alpha... database management 100% definitely indubitably isn't on that list of "to do" in Open Beta.

I dont have to deal with GOA being in the US, but LOL@U.  Take a page from your own playbook and QQ about QQ.   As someone who's been in dozens and dozens of these, beta (and alpha) is a 2 way street between the contributions of both testers and devs... neither is "giving" anything to the other they're both working together equally towards the same goal.   Only noob testers take the attitude that "it's beta and it's free so dont say nothing about nothing... just kiss their asses."  As a tester you're THERE to CALL OUT the crap as you see it.  Not even being able to log in certainly qualifies as the above.  The most important thing as a beta tester is to comprehend which snafus are unavoidable and which are assfuck retarded/totally unnecessary issues.  You fail.

I rest my case...

Originally posted by Faelan

Originally posted by ProfRed

I counted 23 threads in the first 4 pages of threads earlier that had to do with GOA.  All the same topic, same whining, same, same, same.  There is no need for thousands of topics about the same thing.  

 

Good point. Of course, it doesn't help that the OP... an american... made a new topic called "to all the GOA cry babies" eh?

We where holding it together ok yesterday in that 1 single 110+ page thread but people like to whip there e-peens out and being buried in a thread that size just doesnt cut it for them.

Anyway GOA screwed up my moneys already gone in full with ordering from D2D uk so they have a few days to win me back over,  i persoanlly felt GOA was always wrong for the job and was a large reason i was gonna skip WAR altogether and wait on Aion with nothing to play due to there handling of DAOC but meh.

Both sides have had there bitches and im sure GOA have had a bollocking + some from EA chiefs as long as they continue to communicate im a happy bunny and as long as i get at least a hr or 2 with both the Shadow Warrior and The DOK to see what im going to roll come head start day ill stick with it.

Originally posted by temuchin

You seem to have taken the entire thing personally.  And all their "crying" has made you as cranky yourself as a 2 year old with collic.

If we were talking about server instability or hardware failure due to stress loads... maybe even if we were talking about items disappearing on zoning or continuous server failure causing rollbacks you might have a point.. all par for the course in beta.  But the issue here is login serverlol.  Regardless of all else,  the first rule of Open Beta is to GET TESTERS IN TO TEST.  Anything less is corporate malfeasance... you're burning thousands upon thousands of dollars and not even getting any feedback from testers on the stuff you need to test.  All that hardware and extra staff during a crucial period going to waste, all for an issue that should have already been addressed before you even thought of open beta.

I'm pretty sure neither Mythic nor GOA thought the entire point of Open Beta was to test whether they could keep a straight database on their login server and/or can mail out the proper codes and not "saturate" their beta keys.  Keep in mind that it's not even a question of stress on the login server... simply no one checked the data... since OPEN BETA is to test all the crap that you cant test internally and in Alpha... database management 100% definitely indubitably isn't on that list of "to do" in Open Beta.

I dont have to deal with GOA being in the US, but LOL@U.  Take a page from your own playbook and QQ about QQ.   As someone who's been in dozens and dozens of these, beta (and alpha) is a 2 way street between the contributions of both testers and devs... neither is "giving" anything to the other they're both working together equally towards the same goal.   Only noob testers take the attitude that "it's beta and it's free so dont say nothing about nothing... just kiss their asses."  As a tester you're THERE to CALL OUT the crap as you see it.  Not even being able to log in certainly qualifies as the above.  The most important thing as a beta tester is to comprehend which snafus are unavoidable and which are assfuck retarded/totally unnecessary issues.  You fail.

If you are who you say you are

Yep I am, I'm not a script kiddie who comes onto forums pretending Im somebody like the escapist.  Whoin real life can't pick up chicks and eats cheesie poofs all day long while screaming at europeans cause I'm in beta and their not.

Originally posted by Draconus

I understand that you guys are mad the servers are not working for you, BUT this is a TEST.

would you rather all this stuff happen now or when the game is really live?

this is the reason for OPEN BETA.

I am sorry things are not working out the way you would like them to, but if this is not the live game then you really have nothing to cry about.

When the server launch live and there are still problems I will say you have something to complain about, but for now you are servering the perpose of a tester.

No you are totally wrong

Dont use beta test an excuse for defending incompetence of GOA

Waiting till the very last day to open up registration for 500,000+ people when beta was expected to start in 5 hours is not only foolish but height of idiotcy.
Forget about GOA any good company could not cope with that influx within a few hours

REgistartion should have opened a week ago the least then take bloody all the time for fixing it.

If there were beta issues with the server or the lag or performance that is understandable .But just registration freaking now

I have an American beta account also and it took me 5 minutes to set it up.

When you are in a line of business like MMO certain levels of professionalism is expected.