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8538 of 8538 Officers shown (100%). GCW stats released for this week. Jestor made a thread before the vet trials and I believe these numbers were around 8550. Some posters even used the "climbing" GCW numbers against him in a thread. Well, it would seem, the "vets" cleared out again and it's even a little worse than before. Must be time for another free month again, $OE. |
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9/06/08 11:46:09 PM#2
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The GCW officers are the only stats that SOE releases on population. So, on 25 servers, there are only 8,358 rebel and imperial officers, including alternate characters and multiple player accounts The "vet trials" were a free month of gameplay for all former players, about a month ago.
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9/07/08 12:35:34 AM#4
Originally posted by Esquire1980
The "vet trials" seem to run on different cycles for different accounts. If someone does not activate their account for a vet trial in say May, they get carried over to another one in July. This seems to have been the case with my accounts, all running during May. There was a subsequent trial in July I was not eligible for, but there may be one in October that they turn me on for. It seems there's a 90 day wait between the vet trials, which I know is true for the WoW 10 day "Scrolls of resurrection" program. WoW's program is for 10 days of play, and has numerous restrictions, such as you must have Burning Crusade turned on, and you can't advance past level 60 on the trial. The basic WoW free trial restricts you to advancing to only level 20 as well as no trading or email. SWG's vet trial restrictions last time I was on were minimal, they even dropped the trial account anything but /tells or group chat restrictions, as the main reason they were imposed were due to gold/leveling service operators using trial accounts to spam chat for their services. Of course, you don't get access to post on the fora on any SWG trial account. Dunno if this is true for other SOE games but I suspect it is...probably an SOE wide policy, and I certainly understand why it's in place. CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested. Once a denizen of Ahazi |
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9/07/08 1:02:32 AM#5
The SWG vet trials coincide with the 'major' game updates and/or the end of a fiscal quarter. It isn't that there is a 90 day wait, it is that the 'major' updates and fiscal quarters only occur at those times. With the 'major' updates becomming fewer and far between, the vet trials may become more sparce (not that it is a bad thing, considering how bad the game is). If the vet trials don't become more sparce, then they are solely based on fiscal quarters, and SOE is using them to keep the game alive.
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9/07/08 2:33:05 AM#6
Originally posted by Obee
I hear what you're saying, but it seems they're a bit out of synch, as they had one big hoopla vet trial to show us all the Exar Kun instance in May, then turned around and had another one centered around the fifth anniversary of the original release in July. Since I took the bait in May, I didn't get to participate in the July one. Too close together. CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested. Once a denizen of Ahazi |
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9/07/08 3:27:06 AM#7
Originally posted by SioBabble
I hear what you're saying, but it seems they're a bit out of synch, as they had one big hoopla vet trial to show us all the Exar Kun instance in May, then turned around and had another one centered around the fifth anniversary of the original release in July. Since I took the bait in May, I didn't get to participate in the July one. Too close together.
The one in May coincided with the new instance, and the one in July coincided with the start of fiscal quarter 4. They likely did the July one, for the folks who didn't use the May one, because there was not going to be another 'major' update until at least October (which is the start of the first fiscal quarter). Think of the last trial(s) this way, splitting it into two parts allows SOE to show no major decrease in 'active subscriptions' to the folks who became their new bosses at the beginning of April. They were well aware that very few of the folks using the trial would convert to a paid subscription. since no major changes were made to the game, only another cookie cutter instance along with a few new collection grinds were added. I would assume the Holth instance will be viewed a bit differently by SOE, since it has been the primary focus of at least half the dev team for the past nine months. It won't do anything to increase paid subscriptions, since it is just another instance, and the main problem with the game is that the core game is just flat out unfun. I expect a mini-marketing push when it goes live, and a developer meltdown when it fails.
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9/07/08 7:28:35 AM#8
During the mass vet trial back in July, it spiked up to 8850 at its highest (July 18), really goes to show you just how many vets affected the GCW by gaining the lieutenant rank. Then in August it dropped back down and throughout this year it'll continue to drop, I predict next spring/summer it'll be dangerously close to 6000 if not less. SWTOR: sub ended, no thanks to Georg Zoeller! |
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9/07/08 11:27:26 AM#9
Another good indicator of the health of SWG are the amount of users on the OBoards,there has been a significant decline in the last few weeks. Return to school? perhaps. |
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9/07/08 3:45:29 PM#10
Just took a look on the GCW officer list. Looks like a lot of my old friends have had their rank decayed by 2-3 ranks. Looks like they have quit the game. Some of them had been there since before the CU and NGE.
Hauken Stormchaser |
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9/07/08 4:20:19 PM#11
It only shows people that have been logged in the previous 14 days.
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9/07/08 6:22:20 PM#12
Originally posted by Gutboy
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9/07/08 6:50:37 PM#13
Originally posted by Gutboy
When they decay 2-3 ranks it means they havnt logged on in more than a month.... Hauken Stormchaser |
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9/07/08 7:30:08 PM#14
Originally posted by Hauken
When they decay 2-3 ranks it means they havnt logged on in more than a month....
If they haven't logged on in more than a month, they aren't showing up on the officer salute. You HAVE to have logged in sometime in the previous 14 days to be listed, which is what Gutboy meant. So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist. |
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9/07/08 8:22:01 PM#15
That's untrue, my char was Major (above Lt), took a tad over a month before my character vanished from the list last year after I stopped playing.
SWTOR: sub ended, no thanks to Georg Zoeller! |
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9/08/08 5:59:15 PM#16
Originally posted by sookster54
I can confirm that as well! My toon was visible on the officer list for the whole duration of the decay from Gen. down to Lt. That for sure took longer than one month!
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9/09/08 1:58:44 AM#17
A lot of people simply get to general for the items and let their rank decay i know quite a few that have done that and others doing it now, i am in no way defending against the population issue here though we all know it is not great by any means. |
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9/09/08 3:14:32 PM#18
Originally posted by permanent1 I love how the pvp rank decay system was stolen directly from WoW...after Blizzard figured out that it was a horrible system that pissed off players. Well done again SOE! |
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9/09/08 3:37:46 PM#19
I thought the vet trials ended in Nov 2005 when SOE said they wanted a different set of players -j/k "I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918) |
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9/09/08 4:09:09 PM#20
Originally posted by Warmaker Yeah but when all the servers emptied out they decided they like us after all...just not enough to actually revert back to preCU. Now they just have vet trials every quarter so they can fudge their numbers. |
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