Originally posted by Sarcose

It doesn't look too bad to me. I looked over the thread before posting and there were only one or two posts talking directly about the MMORPG.com community. Most of the posts were about whether or not it's worth hyping the game up. The hardcore vets look like your typical loveable douchebags you'll get with any forum that's been around for a long time, it's not anything unusual in my eyes.

No offense but you made your mmorpg.com account today and saying it doesnt look to bad?

The thread I read had lots of remarks how bad this site was and indeed it's posters and also alot of reference to more newbs to gank,maybe we read different threads or you only seen what you wanted to see.

Originally posted by doobster

Originally posted by lord_palmer

what i was more concerned with is people giving games 1's just because it's competition for a game they don't like. i know that WAR has more fanboys, so if a lot of them give darkfall a 1, it's just making darkfall look like an awful game to anyone here who comes to the forums. or, say all the darkfall fanboys gave WAR a 1 just because they wanted darkfall to be hyped more, it would look like WAR isn't such a great game, so anyone who may not be very familiar with won't really notice it.

i agree, it's fine for fanboys to hype the games they like, but seriously, very few games deserve a 1, and there's no reason for so many people to be giving WAR or darkfall a 1, even if you don't like either of them. but i think that's what's happening, and this thread is proof if it.

Hype is relative my friend.  You think that there is very few games that deserve a 1, I think that if I'm not hyped for a particular game, i.e. I don't really care if it releases or not, and I'm not particularly following it, then it deserves a 1.  Who says your philosophy on hype is more correct then mine? 

 

You seem to still think that a hype meter is a judgement of how good a game is.  Hype meter isnt judging the features, its judging the HYPE of the game.  If everyone rebelled against Darkfall and gave it 1's and it dropped from the list, it would be justified, because the majority of people aren't hyped for Darkfall.

 

The standings now are pretty correct.  I checked out the Alexa traffic rankings for some top games.  Darkfall is at 40k, Chronicles of Spellborne is at 100k.  Darkfall is more hyped then CoS, therefore it deserves a higher ranking.  Warhammer is at 7k, and Aion is right up there with it, therefore they are obviously more hyped.  Traffic ranking = hype.  The more traffic your website is bringing in, the more people are hyped for it, hearing its name, checking it out.

 

tl;dr version : Hype isnt a game ranking like the actual game ranking system.  Its a ranking on HYPE.  It doesn't really have a basis from game features and things.

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by Sarcose

It doesn't look too bad to me. I looked over the thread before posting and there were only one or two posts talking directly about the MMORPG.com community. Most of the posts were about whether or not it's worth hyping the game up. The hardcore vets look like your typical loveable douchebags you'll get with any forum that's been around for a long time, it's not anything unusual in my eyes.

 

No offense but you made your mmorpg.com account today and saying it doesnt look to bad?

The thread I read had lots of remarks how bad this site was and indeed it's posters and also alot of reference to more newbs to gank,maybe we read different threads or you only seen what you wanted to see.

I was referring to the thread on the Darkfall forums which called for fans to hype it up on MMORPG.com. I didn't read this thread through, if that's what you mean. Also, Darkfall fans being douchebags on a different forum is a different animal from the actual Darkfall community.

The way i see it is that everything is working as intended.

The hype system is there so that people who are following the game can hype their game up to give it a better rating, ratings which will result in better a community and revenue for that game, which will generally mean the game will have better post launch development (generally) 

if people start abusing the Hype system there will always be a backlash, its the way we balance ourselves out, if one group decides they are going to rate all other games down so their game goes up then people who are following the games they have de-hyped, will get a little tiffed off and start dehyping other games as well. It only take a few people to start everyone off in some sort of hate war, which will only really go away when the game comes out, but then each side will start leaving reveiws etc etc, snowball keeps rolling.

The best thing for users looking for a new game would not be to look at the superficial ratings, but actually read the comments and dig through and see what people are saying, not just the number they have attached in their comments, for example if you read any games reveiws in it you find loads of fanboys and flames and all that, but you will also find the reveiws by people who actually took the consideration to play the game, or in the case of hype, those who have researched the game propperly before they made their judgement, not just going "LULZ DF IS TEH BESTEST!" or "THIS GAME ARE NO AOC!".

In fairness, its really down to the people, if you all wanna run around being tools hyping and de-hyping games on a whim, you really don't deserve to be hyping at all.

And yes, i think DF will be a good game ^_^

you know... it's looking like there's a symantec problem more than anything. some people think hypemeter means that if you aren't interested at all in a game, you give it a zero, and rightfully so. others seem to think the hypemeter is indicitive of how fun the game looks, which is probably wrong, otherwise they'd call it a "fun-meter" or something along those lines.

the problem i have is people de-hyping a game like darkfall, not because they aren't interested in it, but because it's competition for the game that they love and adore so much. some of these people probably don't even bother to do a little research on the game, yet they still give it a 1 because they only care about their own. you shouldn't hype or de-hype something unless you know a little bit about it. if you haven't bothered researching a game, it's stupid to give it a 1 because you "aren't interested in it"... of course you won't be inetersted in it if you know nothing about it.

im on the fence i like DF it seemed like a nice game when it was planed christ... whats it been 5yrs now or something..

BUT the new video really kind of turned me off.  im not a big fan of super godly graphics i mean i still play 2.5D games at times and we all know how craptasticly mcCrappy they can be for graphics n game play.

but the video for DF really didnt make me want to play it more.. :/ they look worse then HL1 did when it came out in 07 THOUGH at the time they rocked for graphics..

i might still try DF but really they need to boost the textures and animation on it. sure they can claim its do to the system eng or whatever but most mmo'ers now days are noobs who started with WoW so graphics mean the world to them.. im old school i like gameplay but i do like some niceness in graphics.. :/

i never hyped it nor do i plan to cause personally hype means as much as giving a big mac to a vegan...

if the community cares sooo much about how hyped DF or other games are... they are clearly retarded noobs who should stick to WoW cause a game doesnt require hype meters to say how good or bad it is...

it requires the community and word of mouth to promote it.. :/ if people play games based on hype... WELL im sure i could hype disney toon town up to rank 1 and make everyone play that.. OR how about my little pony?

how does everyone like that.. lets play dress up with ponies and comb their hair.. or whatever the hell you do with my little ponies cause clearly if its hyped to spot 1.. it must be the greatest game on the planet....

<- doesnt care what rank DF is.. if it sucks it sucks.. rank 1 spot on hype means nothing if the game sucks total Bs... im going to wait to try it before i judge it on any sort of hypo-graphic

Originally posted by lord_palmer 

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

No they are not just hyping the game they are interested in they are underhyping other game's.

Ok people can say what they will but the proof is there that games that were at 7.10 for along time have quickly gone below 7,add to this even on the DF forum ppl are being encouraged to do this and even more so a comment on the TCoS hype someone said and I quote "looks cool but gave it 1 for the sake of DF"

This isnt how hype works you give it a vote to say how it interests you but like I also said more important here is how the DF forum member's are re-acting to this,Like I said before I followed this game for a long time and will maybe still keep my eye on it but the community has done the title no favours,also the fact that alot of people backing up what is going on just made there mmorpg.com accounts in the last 24hrs doesnt hold much water.

Originally posted by Sarcose

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by Sarcose

It doesn't look too bad to me. I looked over the thread before posting and there were only one or two posts talking directly about the MMORPG.com community. Most of the posts were about whether or not it's worth hyping the game up. The hardcore vets look like your typical loveable douchebags you'll get with any forum that's been around for a long time, it's not anything unusual in my eyes.

 

No offense but you made your mmorpg.com account today and saying it doesnt look to bad?

The thread I read had lots of remarks how bad this site was and indeed it's posters and also alot of reference to more newbs to gank,maybe we read different threads or you only seen what you wanted to see.

 

I was referring to the thread on the Darkfall forums which called for fans to hype it up on MMORPG.com. I didn't read this thread through, if that's what you mean. Also, Darkfall fans being douchebags on a different forum is a different animal from the actual Darkfall community.

I was also talking about the DF forum thread.
 

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by Vansinne

Here you have the post from DF official.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=66093

Read it trough before posting here.

 

Lol so thats the "mature community" then,I think I will pass,Lost count how many times people were saying things like "more newbs to gank"

A well whatever gets them through the day I guess.

That is absolutely amazing. I've never seen such a mass gathering of elitist jerks before. This is the "mature" community everyone is claiming exists on the forums? LOL too funny. It looks like a discussion between the "hardcore" PvPers from WoW that think Arenas take skill.

It's impossible to de-hype a game!  If someone thinks a game (such as WAR) is not worth any excitement then there is nothing wrong with them putting in a 1 as that is the level of enthusiasm they have.  Or are you only allowed to give a rating if you give it a ten?

I personally couldn't be bothered to even give WAR/AOC etc a 1.  Too much effort for something I have zero interest in.

Damn this mmorpg.com... it's loading for a half an hour, and u really can't figure out what is it actually trying to load
Anyways, im writing this post here just to get my rank a lil bit up, so i could hype my favourite game, i guess nobody has anything wrong with it, and yes it is DARKFALL Online! It is, it is, and .... it is.

Originally posted by Rhygar

It's impossible to de-hype a game!  If someone thinks a game (such as WAR) is not worth any excitement then there is nothing wrong with them putting in a 1 as that is the level of enthusiasm they have.  Or are you only allowed to give a rating if you give it a ten?

I personally couldn't be bothered to even give WAR/AOC etc a 1.  Too much effort for something I have zero interest in.

 

/sigh

You could think the game has some nice things and will maybe be ok and give it a say a 6 out of 10....there is more than just a 1 or a 10 ffs.

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by lord_palmer 

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

 

No they are not just hyping the game they are interested in they are underhyping other game's.

Ok people can say what they will but the proof is there that games that were at 7.10 for along time have quickly gone below 7,add to this even on the DF forum ppl are being encouraged to do this and even more so a comment on the TCoS hype someone said and I quote "looks cool but gave it 1 for the sake of DF"

This isnt how hype works you give it a vote to say how it interests you but like I also said more important here is how the DF forum member's are re-acting to this,Like I said before I followed this game for a long time and will maybe still keep my eye on it but the community has done the title no favours,also the fact that alot of people backing up what is going on just made there mmorpg.com accounts in the last 24hrs doesnt hold much water.

You're missing the point of HYPE.  This guy that said that TCoS may look cool, but hes obviously not HYPED for the game, or else he would have rated it higher.  His enthusiasm for TCoS is nonexistant.  Other games will do that, I'm not looking at any new game unless DF fails, or doesn't release soon.  My HYPE for other games are 1.  I am NOT hyped for them.

Hype system working as intended.

Yes, it's the newbies from DF forums doing this. Frankly, it just makes Darkfall look bad.

On the other hand, same thing has been going for years in MMORPG.com forums, especially Conan fans dehyped other games like second job.

Originally posted by lord_palmer

Originally posted by doobster

Originally posted by lord_palmer

what i was more concerned with is people giving games 1's just because it's competition for a game they don't like. i know that WAR has more fanboys, so if a lot of them give darkfall a 1, it's just making darkfall look like an awful game to anyone here who comes to the forums. or, say all the darkfall fanboys gave WAR a 1 just because they wanted darkfall to be hyped more, it would look like WAR isn't such a great game, so anyone who may not be very familiar with won't really notice it.

i agree, it's fine for fanboys to hype the games they like, but seriously, very few games deserve a 1, and there's no reason for so many people to be giving WAR or darkfall a 1, even if you don't like either of them. but i think that's what's happening, and this thread is proof if it.

Hype is relative my friend.  You think that there is very few games that deserve a 1, I think that if I'm not hyped for a particular game, i.e. I don't really care if it releases or not, and I'm not particularly following it, then it deserves a 1.  Who says your philosophy on hype is more correct then mine? 

 

You seem to still think that a hype meter is a judgement of how good a game is.  Hype meter isnt judging the features, its judging the HYPE of the game.  If everyone rebelled against Darkfall and gave it 1's and it dropped from the list, it would be justified, because the majority of people aren't hyped for Darkfall.

 

The standings now are pretty correct.  I checked out the Alexa traffic rankings for some top games.  Darkfall is at 40k, Chronicles of Spellborne is at 100k.  Darkfall is more hyped then CoS, therefore it deserves a higher ranking.  Warhammer is at 7k, and Aion is right up there with it, therefore they are obviously more hyped.  Traffic ranking = hype.  The more traffic your website is bringing in, the more people are hyped for it, hearing its name, checking it out.

 

tl;dr version : Hype isnt a game ranking like the actual game ranking system.  Its a ranking on HYPE.  It doesn't really have a basis from game features and things.

 

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

Wow...

You are calling me hypocritical on an assumption. Bravo. For your information, I haven't even rated Darkfall yet as I was waiting for solid proof that it even existed. Now, I'm just waiting for a little more info before I rate it because the video really didn't impress me. I wanted to see game play footage, as in fraps running while someone is playing the game, like you or I would play it. Not a bunch of people running around fighting while the camera flies around in 3rd person chaotically.

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by doobster

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by lord_palmer 

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

 

No they are not just hyping the game they are interested in they are underhyping other game's.

Ok people can say what they will but the proof is there that games that were at 7.10 for along time have quickly gone below 7,add to this even on the DF forum ppl are being encouraged to do this and even more so a comment on the TCoS hype someone said and I quote "looks cool but gave it 1 for the sake of DF"

This isnt how hype works you give it a vote to say how it interests you but like I also said more important here is how the DF forum member's are re-acting to this,Like I said before I followed this game for a long time and will maybe still keep my eye on it but the community has done the title no favours,also the fact that alot of people backing up what is going on just made there mmorpg.com accounts in the last 24hrs doesnt hold much water.

You're missing the point of HYPE.  This guy that said that TCoS may look cool, but hes obviously not HYPED for the game, or else he would have rated it higher.  His enthusiasm for TCoS is nonexistant.  Other games will do that, I'm not looking at any new game unless DF fails, or doesn't release soon.  My HYPE for other games are 1.  I am NOT hyped for them.

 

Hype system working as intended.

 

You sir an idiot,that goes without question but just to help you out..

If that is the case then why does the hype run from 1-10 and not just give you 2 options of 1 or 10?

Now think before you answer.....if you are given 2 choices fair enough but you are given 10,,are you still thinking?

You still can't get over the fact that hype doesnt equal features.  A game could have all the great features in the world in it, but if I'm not hyped for it, im not hyped for it.  If I don't want to play, I don't want to play. 

Hype between games is also inversely related.  If I'm really hyped for one game, I tend to not be as hyped for others.

The fact that I've reduced your argument down to you attacking my knowledge puts a smile on my face.  Have a nice day.

 To be honest, the same thing happens with many other games. So all the ratings/hypes are skewed. They really don't mean anything.

FFS you are argueing with yourself here I quote

"Hype between games is also inversely related. If I'm really hyped for one game, I tend to not be as hyped for others".

NOT AS HYPED does not mean 1 it could mean 6 ffs man I told you to think.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by lord_palmer

Originally posted by doobster

Originally posted by lord_palmer

what i was more concerned with is people giving games 1's just because it's competition for a game they don't like. i know that WAR has more fanboys, so if a lot of them give darkfall a 1, it's just making darkfall look like an awful game to anyone here who comes to the forums. or, say all the darkfall fanboys gave WAR a 1 just because they wanted darkfall to be hyped more, it would look like WAR isn't such a great game, so anyone who may not be very familiar with won't really notice it.

i agree, it's fine for fanboys to hype the games they like, but seriously, very few games deserve a 1, and there's no reason for so many people to be giving WAR or darkfall a 1, even if you don't like either of them. but i think that's what's happening, and this thread is proof if it.

Hype is relative my friend.  You think that there is very few games that deserve a 1, I think that if I'm not hyped for a particular game, i.e. I don't really care if it releases or not, and I'm not particularly following it, then it deserves a 1.  Who says your philosophy on hype is more correct then mine? 

 

You seem to still think that a hype meter is a judgement of how good a game is.  Hype meter isnt judging the features, its judging the HYPE of the game.  If everyone rebelled against Darkfall and gave it 1's and it dropped from the list, it would be justified, because the majority of people aren't hyped for Darkfall.

 

The standings now are pretty correct.  I checked out the Alexa traffic rankings for some top games.  Darkfall is at 40k, Chronicles of Spellborne is at 100k.  Darkfall is more hyped then CoS, therefore it deserves a higher ranking.  Warhammer is at 7k, and Aion is right up there with it, therefore they are obviously more hyped.  Traffic ranking = hype.  The more traffic your website is bringing in, the more people are hyped for it, hearing its name, checking it out.

 

tl;dr version : Hype isnt a game ranking like the actual game ranking system.  Its a ranking on HYPE.  It doesn't really have a basis from game features and things.

 

well, you may be right. in which case, this entire thread is pointless because darkfall fans aren't "trashing" the hypemeter, they're just expressing their hype for a game they are interested in. it's just very hypocritical that the OP of this thread probably gave darkfall a 1.

Wow...

You are calling me hypocritical on an assumption. Bravo. For your information, I haven't even rated Darkfall yet as I was waiting for solid proof that it even existed. Now, I'm just waiting for a little more info before I rate it because the video really didn't impress me. I wanted to see game play footage, as in fraps running while someone is playing the game, like you or I would play it. Not a bunch of people running around fighting while the camera flies around in 3rd person chaotically.

its only like a few peole thata re going around de hyping the games.. but dont really matter people do it to darkfall too

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by Vansinne

Here you have the post from DF official.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=66093

Read it trough before posting here.

 

Lol so thats the "mature community" then,I think I will pass,Lost count how many times people were saying things like "more newbs to gank"

A well whatever gets them through the day I guess.

 

That is absolutely amazing. I've never seen such a mass gathering of elitist jerks before. This is the "mature" community everyone is claiming exists on the forums? LOL too funny. It looks like a discussion between the "hardcore" PvPers from WoW that think Arenas take skill.

i read most of the thread, and i didn't see that many people saying stuff like "yea, let's get more noobs to join to feed on." i saw 4 people that said that, some of which said the same thing several times, so i don't think that's representative of the entire community.

also, you're right, i shouldn't have assumed anything. to be honest i agree with you, but i don't think it's just the darkfall fans that are trashing they hype meter, and people in this forum have even admitted to giving out 1's just because darkfall's hype is going up. i just heard about darkfall when the beta was announced and i saw the video and i was excited. it makes sense that the hype for it would go up shortly after beta is announced. i just don't think that gives people the reason to give it a 1 just because it's hype is getting "too high."

i'm excited about darkfall, but i don't even think i would rate it a 10, since there's some things it can obviously improve on. i would reserve 10 for being the absolute best, and 1 for the absolute worst, which is why i don't think people should be just giving out 1's (or 10's for that matter) so liberally.