I'll be honest with you, people probably mistook you for being a whiner...

If you can't find guilds because of your "unique" personality when it comes to conflicting with their groups then maybe you should think that the problem may be on your end.

Don't get me wrong, 90% of the people in games like that are immature morons and I'm not saying you're wrong at all here.  I'm just saying that maybe you should learn to adapt to different playstyles instead of just saying "no, you people are idiots I'm leaving" and giving up.  Guilds can be a lot of fun but there is no perfect community.  You'll always have immaturity and stupidity wherever you go.  You just need to group up with the 10% of people that you can stand even if that means changing a little bit about how you play your character.

If you want to play your character the way you want without anyone having any say in it then Guilds and Groups are definitely not for you.  People like that do more harm than good anyway.

Who are you talking to? And I never trashed the game, geesh you all dont read the whole post. I said it is a great mmorpg but it lacks community ive seen in other games and even some current ones.

Thats just the thing, I hardly have issues in games like city of heroes but the game lacks vareity in content for me to play more then a month. I just need to find the right game, besides ive lost interest in questing in lotro the animal quests feel way to much like wows no offense to anyone who enjoy them, but its just to famaliar.

I do understand what your saying though but I watched these people chat later on and they got into another argument with someone else and they where having many immature discussions other then insulting someone. I do appreciate you not judging me though.

Originally posted by Selencia

From what I saw LOTRO & WoW had the same players in them. The games are also identical on concept so that's not really a surprise. If you want to see a fairly mature community try Eve Online. The help/rookie chat channels are actually full of helpful people rather than lamers who try to start drama like in WoW/LOTRO. Join the militia or a large alliance after that and you'll be amung the most mature and group-oriented people of any online game.

I realy don't know what its like on other Servers but the player attitude on LOTRO Eldar (EU) is nothing like the 4 WOW servers I have tried. WOW would have suited me more if I was 15 years younger, its more alive but often has childish attitude as everyone playing fights and pushing everyone out the way so they can level as quick as possible to raid and get better gear than everyone else!

I feel sad that the OP has had a bad experience and have rarely seen any comments relating to childish LOTRO community.

Also identical games??? I put that down to a lack of you not playing both/one to end game and seeing whats to offer. Concept, well, there both MMORPGs if thats what you mean, you quest, level, buy, sell and chat - apart from that they are so far different its undescribable

The only game where I could say "this is a good community" was in The Saga of Ryzom. Other than that, the rest of MMOs I played are full of drama queens. When I played AoC, the first thing I did was to disable the OOC channel and help channel. I had a friend that helped me when I got stuck so I didnt need to ask on the chat.

And about guilds, dont even get me started. I wish I could put all members of a guild in ignore.

I know right? Amazingly its very difficult to find a good guild these days, I use to help run guilds in eq1 stress free and alot of people for the most part cooperated, but now days oh hek no they just wont except in certain games like city of heroes, maybe final fantasy online but ive never played it yet.

I did try ryzom but its just more kill animal except alien animal type of game and the world did not appeal to me very well.

To be fair, you did seem to start it, by claiming other people's advice was wrong. And honestly, LOTRO is a cookie cutter game, some builds are just more effective than others.  Saying a person should do what he wants was not being especially helpful.

As to your politeness, everyone thinks they are polite, but it's not really up to them to judge, but others. But given your responses in your thread, it seems like you probably brought up how great you were in another MMORPG and how much better that one is/was, which is never a good thing.

That said, I definitely do think the LOTRO community is overrated. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's far from perfect.

Well your entitled to your opinion, he wanted to be more effective in dps and someone told him to spec more in healing, well what you said did not make sense one bit. First I never said they where wrong if thats how they want to build then its there choice there is no super powered build there is no cookie cutter, there is cookie cutter for what someone wants to do more but there is no ultimate build for each class regardless of what you think im sorry but your just lying to yourself.

And by the way I was polite it was those people who where rude ever since ive seen the channel in the first place, you wherent there to see it its not your place to claim I was not polite. But I know what I experienced you can believe it or not I dont care but keep your judgements to yourself.

I have rarely seen nasty OOCs but then again I tend to stay clear or OOCs or Regional for that matter. I occasionaly hit there and Advice channel, which by the way should be the channel you ask questions is for future reference. Also there is a real handy feature called Ignore located in your Friends window. I use mine from time to time.

Originally posted by Professor78

 

I realy don't know what its like on other Servers but the player attitude on LOTRO Eldar (EU) is nothing like the 4 WOW servers I have tried. WOW would have suited me more if I was 15 years younger, its more alive but often has childish attitude as everyone playing fights and pushing everyone out the way so they can level as quick as possible to raid and get better gear than everyone else!

I feel sad that the OP has had a bad experience and have rarely seen any comments relating to childish LOTRO community.

Also identical games??? I put that down to a lack of you not playing both/one to end game and seeing whats to offer. Concept, well, there both MMORPGs if thats what you mean, you quest, level, buy, sell and chat - apart from that they are so far different its undescribable

Yes, I would love to see someone in WoW spend hours getting trophies for houses.I would love to be there when someone gets excited because they finished a legendary deed, or puts something into chat like "Wow, you guys should come to X and look at this cool tree/clouds/ruins".....then have 20 people come over, check it out and spend the next 15 minutes or half hour talking about it and other cool spots you have found.
 

As far as community, in LotRO I've met a handful of people I detested.....whereas in WoW I met a handful of people I liked.

I took a break from LotRO and came back after 2 months.....2 people in my kin that I could think of had left, but we had gained more members. Leave a guild in WoW and come back 2 months later, see what happens.

BTW....when's the last time you saw a beggar (player) in Bree?

I'm sad that OP get into such group of people when he's online. Don't know for US servers but here in EU I can say that LotRO's community is best I've seen in MMOs (haven't played many) - but definitely better then WoW's.

But again, can't judge US community :)

I liked the community, on both Silverlode and Brandywine (US of course, not Oceanic) I felt everyone was very mature, more so than in any other MMO I've played. Problem was that everyone was quiet, save for one or two people in Bree. As much as people calling others noobs and talking about rape is annoying, sometimes conversations/etc from the same people can be entertaining. I mean, it's about interaction, even if they're just being stupid. Having a near completely silent world like in LotRO just sucks, makes me think everyone is either a bot or a sweaty, fat, desperate poopsocker who has no time for chatting.

It's that and the lack of people, even on Silverlode and Brandywine. Farming in Angmar, I saw maybe one or two people pass by every now and then. More people were online at prime-time, but mainly for rift raid. Maybe they should combine some servers?

You are playing a video game...by its very nature it is immature and attracts immature crowds. 

 I found Brandywine to have the highest population of asshats.  It is one of the highest population servers and the place new players usually start.  I was on Brandywine back as far as stress test and open beta.

My regular home is the low population Vilya.  Everyone I've grouped with has been fine.

I've play WoW since launch, and LOTRO since stress/open beta.  The two communities aren't similar in ANY way.

As in all MMO's. I have met a few asshats here and there. And yes even in LOTRO.

I just ignore people like that and dont let them ruin my gametime. There are plenty mature and/or decent players in LOTRO. Ive been in a few fellowships where some players has started to curse and stomp on players becouse they have made a mistake of some sort. At those times I have found it better to leave and start the quest over again without the "leetkids".

Originally posted by Angelbound

So ive been on the free trial on the oceanic server, everything was very peaceful and quiet there was a major lack of grouping and etc, and for once I played ealier and all of a sudden I was playing wow all over again, omg after seeing such a friendly community it was horrible.

 

Someone asked for advice in the global ooc channel so I did and I said dont listen to the others it does not have to be another cookie cutter game and I got attacked by mulitple people, i was extremely polite while somehow they claimed I was throwing insults when they where obviously cursing at me and accusing me before anyone ever read the whole thing.

Then they started saying how I will never find a group because I disrespected very respected people in the community and yada yada  yada. So I basicly said I fail to see how you all are respected in the community and said ok im leaving bye.

Now I quit wow mostly due to the community, and please dont tell me about that junk about finding the right guild im sorry but it does not always work. I am a very unique person and guilds dont always like to group like I do, therefor I also depend on pugs.

Anyways I sat that there in bree while this kid was spamming laughing at me about how I got pawned in chat and this is maybe 10 minuites later, and I said your boring me. And he saids well I didnt start drama lamer or something like that.

Then while I was waiting in bree and saw nothing but saw almost the exact same immature chat in world of warcraft community, where do these people come from? And believe me this was going on even the global looking for fellowship chat and normal ooc for a long time it probably still is now.

Anyways I just want to know what is wrong with this server? While there are many of you who are mature and friendly I cannot see myself playing this game and running into these kinds of people all the time, city of heroes has a far better community then wow and lotro in my experience.

I played LotRo for a year on EU Gilrain, I have to say that it was a similar thing there, someone asked where something is and recieves replies about it being in thier rear end etc.

I did the WoW trial not long after leaving LotRo (5 months ago) and guess what??  even worse community on the server i selected, it was like being in world where you ask something like a civil person would do just starting a game and all you get is spam, insults, flames and general abuse. I observed such harrassment go on for about 43 minutes after someone (i assume was new to game like me) asked a simple question.

SWG went the same way after the NGE went live, those that remained or joined after it were childish and immature to the point of being wastes of flesh.

City of Heroes..  well i'm currently playing on Defiant Server and have been for about 3 weeks now, the general community is the best i've ever encountered over my 5-7 years of playing MMO's. Someone asks a question in Regional and they get possitive and polite answers, someone asks to team up and you get a "Thank you, i don't do missions but i don't mind taggin along with yours to make them slightly more difficult and aid us all getting xp" or "Thanks for the team invite, i'm good at <insert class skills>, lead on and i'll support" etc. Not once have i ever encountered a rude, arrogent or immature player in CoX.

I agree with a previous poster about there being this sort of people in every MMO but so far i haven't found one in CoX and to be honest i doubt there is anyone who acts in an immature way in the game (can't speak for other servers though). I can honestly say that the Defiant server for Cox doesn't have any stupid named people running around as female characters dressed in almost nothing like the other mentioned MMO's, and trust me, the customization levels in CoX can make some very skimpy outfits (my Misses plays the game too).

EVE i can't really comment on, i tried the trial and didn't bother to finish the trial as i foudn the game boring, the way combat is handled just isn't what i was looking for in a Space Sim MMO, Elite/Freelancer style is what i wanted. The community side of it i never got into but i never noticed any of the abuse previously mentioned above during my time on the trial.

I agree on cox it has the best community by far, I think its mostly because it attracts creative people no offense to anyone who doesnt like using there creativity. I use to be on champion it wasnt bad but then I moved over to virtue since there is alot of rp and other mixture of people there and I love it, ive had the most interesting conversations without flaming and any other immature crap, from sci fi movies to books to superheroes you name it.

Plus there isnt much sterotyping here people dont care if you buff them or not because they might be rping or they just respect your playstyle anyways check out virtue its more populated but the people are excellent, my global is angelbound add that one.

I played on the Eu servers (on WoW and Lotro) and i can say the community isn't to bad in either ok theres a few people who think they special trying to act cool and powerfull in a game but mainly its ok espically when i tried a RP server on Lotro everyone was really in character. The problem with Lotro isn't the community but the fact that turbine took WoW and reskined it. With the Lotr Lore its a huge dispointment but i did love the crafting in it more than WoW.

Originally posted by Alivada

I played on the Eu servers (on WoW and Lotro) and i can say the community isn't to bad in either ok theres a few people who think they special trying to act cool and powerfull in a game but mainly its ok espically when i tried a RP server on Lotro everyone was really in character. The problem with Lotro isn't the community but the fact that turbine took WoW and reskined it. With the Lotr Lore its a huge dispointment but i did love the crafting in it more than WoW.

Please tell me your not one of these that thinks all other MMO's are just clones of WoW reskinned??   it's absolute rubbish is this line of thought..

@everyone who thinks WoW is superior and all other MMO's are just clones : Your deluded, yes MMO's are similar in gameplay with only themes changed, this doesn't make WoW the first..  WoW is a concept "taken" from the mind of the person who created D&D (original pen and paper). Don't get me wrong though, i aint a D&D fan either. But this mentality and train of thought is complete junk and those of us who realise this are sick of WoW fans claiming all other MMO's are reskinned copies. Next they'll be saying STO or Star Wars galaxies are reskined WoW.. pathetic..

I have to say, I rarely monitor the chat window unless I'm in a group.  I read it, of course, from time to time while waiting.  I've seen some crappy comments, but mainly on the OCC.   More often than not, people are helping each other, giving advice constantly, helping others.   It seems to be a very good community compared to other games I've played.  I'm on Brandwine mostly, and another server as backup, and have played since beta.