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9/05/08 3:57:19 AM#41
Very good interview. |
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9/05/08 6:29:55 AM#42
This is what I don't get. The PvP experience and DX10 were obviously minor features to Erling as he said he personally thought all the major ones got in. If that's the case why are they wanting to make those missing features "as good as possible" before they put it in the game. That would sound like a major feature. It's a good thing that they are taking the time to finish those features correctly but I'm wondering why they didn't pay the same attention to their "major" features which were ALL broken or buggy at launch. |
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skitzdout
Novice Member
Joined: 2/05/04
"<[EQ]Prathun> I can work on fixing EQ for the rest of my grown life and never fix it." |
9/05/08 6:52:07 AM#43
This was not even really for the players. The strategy here was to tell players what they want to hear. Tell the truth. This was mainly for the investors. they would think that because FC is being truthful about all the info given in this interview then there would be no reason to believe they were lying about their sub numbers. that is the key thing in this interview. that was the main reason for talking the way he did. I really didnt like how he said he understands how we all feel. making it sound like he really does care about how him and his company screwed over 800 thousand players. the way he talks and looks on camera explains so much. very manipulative. also he did lie several times in that video. body language says so.cannot wait to see the restof the vid. |
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9/05/08 6:56:49 AM#44
Originally posted by Shannia
Just to be clear, we were talking about PvP XP, not PvP in general...
Cheers, |
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9/05/08 6:57:22 AM#45
I'm sick of the lying. Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. EE mentions that Direct X wasnt going to be in at launch but it was too late to let anyone know since it was printed on the box. Is there no way to communicate with the player base besides the box....no forums...no website....no mmorpg.com? They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset instead of pulling a bait and switch. Also, EE says that he didn't count PvP among the list of important items that would be fixed soon. Since a large amount, if not the majority, of the player base rolled PvP at launch and they have open PvP zones on all servers, does anyone seriously believe that they missed that PvP was important. Either EE and Funcom are just blatantly lying about these and other issues or they are so incompetent that they shouldnt be running a MMO. Frankly, I wouldn't play AOC again even if it went F2P. |
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Elsabolts
 Advanced Member
Joined: 10/03/06
Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It |
9/05/08 7:00:22 AM#46
I hope everyone relizes that Erling has a job to protect. |
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Ghist
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Joined: 10/21/06
Paid MMORPG subscriptions are the ONLY valid rating meters because people have to pay to vote." |
To Avery and Bloodworth: This is a good interview, if only it had happened 2 months ago. Really a sense of direction might haved saved my sub not statements like "AoC is steak" and "We had a great release". As for the forum posts not being deleted, did you actually visit the forums for the first two months? Reasonable posts early on were quickly closed and deleted. Soon after Funcom started banning people for negative posts. It's not till just recently has Funcom been overwhelmed and stopped the Nazism. Waiting for the next thing |
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Battlekruse
 Novice Member
Joined: 12/28/06
"Enough research will tend to support whatever theory.." |
9/05/08 7:07:31 AM#48
This guy can't be serious. The game is STILL broken, plagued with memory leaks, crashes, and patches that break more stuff than they fix (bosses hitting for 2,000+ damage at a part in the game where at most you have a few hundred hit points anyone, and at a point in the game that is entirely solo anyone??). The launch was one of the poorest in MMO history by most accounts. Granted they seem to be working hard to make things right, but their communication sucks (to get any info, head to the EU forums, because they rarely tell the US forums anything), their patches come out feeling amazingly like they were never tested in house, and the player base is getting pissed (Just the other day fully half the threads in their general discussion forums were "I quit" - now they get locked and/or deleted).
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AmazingAvery
 Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
9/05/08 8:48:49 AM#49
Originally posted by Unfinished
FC has to e-mail him the excuse before he can post it.** ** It will be an excerpt from some 3 - 6 month old statement they are recycling
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
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9/05/08 11:07:15 AM#50
Originally posted by Stradden
Just to be clear, we were talking about PvP XP, not PvP in general...
Thank you. |
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Reklaw
Hard Core Member
Joined: 1/07/06
Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves. |
9/05/08 11:19:28 AM#51
Originally posted by Sithrimir
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9/05/08 11:21:08 AM#52
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP. He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)? STOP WHINING! |
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9/05/08 12:41:37 PM#53
Thanks for taking the time to reinforce my points. I appreciate you letting me know that Funcom's official explanation is limited to a couple of lines and the other method of dispersing information is to be buried on thrid party sites. The sites say "The extra development time will give Funcom time to implement more features in the DirectX 10 version of Age of Conan than originally planned. " and "building a DirectX 10 version worthy of Microsoft's great vision for the future of PC gaming" or others like the text you highlited in yellow.....have no reason for the delay. EE gave a reason as to why the delay and it just doesnt jive with the previous info. One more time.......Funcom needs to take a page out of the Mythic playbook and just be open and honest about what's done and what's going to be done with the game. They could have simply said what he did in the interview at the outset. The why is as important as the when.
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9/05/08 12:49:46 PM#54
Originally posted by Sithrimir They are all one in the same. |
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9/05/08 1:03:02 PM#55
Originally posted by Xris375
Come on Amazing. I told you guys long before the launch that FC wouldn't be able to pull off PvP. Everyone with a technical background could tell you that. Still you where "troubled" and asked us to wait for a non scripted siege video. That never came btw. And now you are telling us that it wasn't the main intrerest ? But of course it wasn't, I told you so months and months before launch. That didn't stop EE to hype the PvP part to get as many boxes sold as possible. You need to take off your fanbois glasses and stop protecting these crooks before they drag you down with them.
Edit: A reference for latecomers: link
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9/05/08 1:12:34 PM#56
Originally posted by Malickie He said that , not in the context being presented. In response to a question in the last interview , he mentioned all major features were in the game they wanted in. The question (this time around) was in regard to people bringing up the PVP patch, in feedback from that interview. His reasoning(for not including the pvp patch in that analysis) was he "personally" didn't consider the pvp system (XP/fugitive) a major feature. He felt the major features were sieging and city building etc... His statement had nothing to do with where the developers focused their efforts. Besides sieging is PVP is it not?
Well that is a much better weasel statement than it was presented. But whiely it is not baldly stupid it is completely weaselly.
Its still complete BS. I participated in a number of threads on the AoC forums where more than one dev specifically stated PvP xp and PvP levels were an imporant feature that would balance out the PvP and PvE endgames. Along with PvP items and various other things.
Specifically this was mentioned as part of the reason raiding would not mess with PvP players along with various other topics as well such as how people could PvP right from the start of the game etc.
So in the end it is still directly against numerous dev statements and is obvious damage control with no basis in reality. |
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9/05/08 1:16:59 PM#57
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth They are all one in the same. If you really think that the reason of working on all the problems in the Dx9 version that EE said in the interview is the same as developing more features in the Dx10 version than they had planned.......I just can't help you. |
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9/05/08 1:31:25 PM#58
LOL, yes this is a joke, and so was so many things in the last few months, IMO I never thought that I would end up in a MMO Dabacko like this since SWG. But, beware my fello MMO'ers FC-Famine is lerking about in these here forums (what a joke). Must have been pushed out of that slug,flame fest they call an official forums heh. Hey Famine thanks for the reply in the PM, but you just further proved everyone right, that your community relations sucks the fat one! along with your MMO. I would also like to add that your EULA should have an amendment added: IF we do not deliver on our promises that all participating players shall and will receive 1-6 months of free game play depending on the dis-satisfaction.
Like I replied Famine good luck you'll need it LAWL!
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Reklaw
Hard Core Member
Joined: 1/07/06
Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves. |
9/06/08 12:25:35 AM#59
Originally posted by Sithrimir
Reinforce your point? HAHA, you did see all those websites shared one thing and that was IT WAS A PRESS RELEASE, so I didn't reinforce your point, but I did reinforce showing that certain people simply spin and twist things into their own favour as you have proven not able to understand what you read, that's the only thing that with this reply above you have reinforced. Sorry ! ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
9/06/08 1:33:08 AM#60
Originally posted by TheSheikh
Check out Straddens perspective in the comments for the video for your answer.
I said PvP comment, which (since you didn't notice) means the comment about PvP. He commented about PvP xp.
Care to explain to me why PvP xp is not important (in general, not because Erliar thinks so)?
If you want my opinion, then your not going to get it by flaming people, name calling and insults. That goes for any post anyone makes from now on. Sorry its getting a joke around here...
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