i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

wotlk does have plenty to offer considering its an expansion.

If the mammoth mount and other mounts that allow several ppl to travel on 1 will be officially confirmed, that will add even more to the game.

Overall however, each to his own. 

WAR - supposed to have better PVP then WoW, but too similar visually no matter how you twist it.

AoC - unfortunately company preferred eye candy over game play, which is sad.  I played the game from release up until mid august (3 months)

WoW - Woltk will bring mobile seige equipment, something I have not seen in WAR, its only stationary in WAR, or so the beta videos after NDA was lifted showed.

true, that mammoth isn't exactly confirmed...but a multiple passenger mount of that scale? thats just cool

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

 

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

and u couldent be more wrong....

Originally posted by Kazzer

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

 

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

and u couldent be more wrong....

yeah, it has plenty of fun stuff to do, hell, i enjoy the game. but i just have to wonder if its going to have any lasting power....i mean, look how long BC lasted and it was just 10 lvls. WotLK seems to add even more AND get back on point with the lore. i'll be honest, i made a paladin on WoW originally cause of the arthas/ Uthar storyline. and its gonna be fun to get in the thick of it :D

Originally posted by gryjin

Originally posted by Kazzer

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

 

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

and u couldent be more wrong....

 

yeah, it has plenty of fun stuff to do, hell, i enjoy the game. but i just have to wonder if its going to have any lasting power....i mean, look how long BC lasted and it was just 10 lvls. WotLK seems to add even more AND get back on point with the lore. i'll be honest, i made a paladin on WoW originally cause of the arthas/ Uthar storyline. and its gonna be fun to get in the thick of it :D

im sure WOTLK will be fun, but war i think will last a long time, its the moste depth pvp i have ever seen in a mmorpg, and while we play they will add more more more and more both for pve and pvp

Im all burnt out of WOW

Originally posted by Kazzer

Originally posted by gryjin

Originally posted by Kazzer

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

 

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

and u couldent be more wrong....

 

yeah, it has plenty of fun stuff to do, hell, i enjoy the game. but i just have to wonder if its going to have any lasting power....i mean, look how long BC lasted and it was just 10 lvls. WotLK seems to add even more AND get back on point with the lore. i'll be honest, i made a paladin on WoW originally cause of the arthas/ Uthar storyline. and its gonna be fun to get in the thick of it :D

 

im sure WOTLK will be fun, but war i think will last a long time, its the moste depth pvp i have ever seen in a mmorpg, and while we play they will add more more more and more both for pve and pvp

Im all burnt out of WOW

What's funny is that if you read reviews about Warhammer, people are already burned out.  you capture a keep and then try and lose it as fast as possible because there is no real bonus for holding stuff.
 

There are also a lot of negative comments about the seige mechanisms being exactly the same in all 4 tiers.   Conquering teir 1 is exactly the same as conquring tier 3.   It's like playing a 10-19 WSG and then playing the 50-60 version.  Yeah, the players have slightly different abilities, but the whole process is exactly the same.

There is also a lot of criticism over how shallow the 'battlegrounds' are.  For a game so oriented towards pvp.. you think they could come up with something more exciting than WSG and AB type battlegrounds.  they don't even have one as 'detailed' as AV.  To me, the WOW battlegrounds are a little diversion from my normal game.  In Warhammer, the battlegrounds are more simple, and ARE the majority of the game.

and let's talk about class balance  LOL.   How many people aren't going to roll the DOT characters.  they are massively superior at leveling.  Everyone is going to be running around dotting everyone.

i love reading the wow beta forums....so much complaining, they just don't know how good a game they actually got. blizzard should give free trial memberships of AOC to disgruntled wow players just to see if they realize the error of thier ways lol

Cool so is wow fanboys trolling war on aoc forums nice nice

i'm not trolling anything, i'm saying that WotLK looks nice...nicer than AOC at the moment and its just an expansion. why must every thing posted that isn't positive be considered trolling?

as a matter of fact, i posted it because plenty of people seem to be a bit dissatisfied with AOC. instead of seeing tons of people jump on the WAR bandwagon just to get away from AOC, i figured some other options should be presented. i played AOC (got burnt out on it) played warhammer (liked it but not entirely sold on it) and have been researching WotLK (played it forever, needed a break..but i guess since i don't hate it i'm a fanboy)

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by gryjin

i know i'm gonna get some some hate over this one, but i've been following the news regarding WAR and WotLK alot here lately (AOC might have a bit to do with this research) and i'm actually amazed to realize that wrath looks to have more content than both AOC and WAR. i know that its different since it is an expansion and the actual classes and groundwork is already there. but i'm wondering if i may get more game time out of 10 lvls than with both of these other two games combined O_O

from the looks of it, WotLK already has more enemy models than AOC....and a mammoth mount as an extra slap in the face :D

 

The funny thing is that WotLK is out warring Warhammer.

Lake Wintergrasp has movable seige weapons and already has a balancing mechanism in place (ie.. it has measures to balance populations).   Warhammer does not have player movable seige equipment and does not currently have any mechanism to counter population imbalaces.

I fully expect that within the first month of Warhammer, one side will completely dominate the other side.  Players will look up a server and only roll on the winning side.  By the time the devs fix this, there will be 1000's of max level characters on one faction dominating the server.

And with warhammer, that is all you get.  Forget about pve, raids, crafting or questing.. It's all about pvp, which isnt' as detailed as Lake Wintergrasp.

Pretty sure you are wrong.  WAR has more than one population balancing mechanic in place.

Not sure why people get worked up about siege equipment.  That could be as bad as it is good.  And so what if you can move the siege equipment, can you aim it with crosshairs via its own interface like exists in WAR?  I mean really its says very little about anything or whose sieging stuff is better.

Frankly neither game is well setup to ever do the engineering and siege machines versus defensive emplacements stuff well.  It mostly just fluff anyway.  Really if you want that kind of stuff play Eve anyway.