U dont know the fact that almost all the players of AOC  are not posting or looking on the forums. Im sure most of whiners are from "some companies" that are afraid they'll loose money....because AOC has a verry solid community and 500k subscribers...U dont know that many people bought the game but didnt played because they were in holiday...

           I agree with u the game still needs fixes to be made....but what mmo was perfect at the beggining?

          U forgot WOW becomed playable after 1 year...and even after 4 years it still have some problems...

           Yes , Funcom promised us many things ..but a few are live now...

           Im sure that until october  the major problems will be fixed.

           In 2 weeks the PVP system will be implemented.

          Soon they will include many new areas and many new quests( early september patch (version 2.0+)

          In some months many people that left will return..and others (new)  will join the game because many will realise that aoc is a mature game for mature players.

          Im not intend to convince u to play AOC ..u are free to choose what to play...but stop posting negative things about AOC . Ok what is real is real..but many of u post negative things about a game that u didnt played it.

        Maybe most of u will laugh of my post...but we'll see who will laugh better in some months...

      Yes ..there are many interesting games that will launch this autumn...WAR and maybe Darkfall. They worth a look but Im sure the same whiners will post negative things about WAR and Darkfall too.. And many of u u'll see WAR is interesting but childish and Darkfall too late for this times.

I preordered WAR and Ill preorder Darkfall too...Ill give them a try...But Im sure AOC will remain first option for me . Why I preordered them? Because after AOC they are the most interesting games and I want to see them. I played a lot of games since Ultima, until AOC. The longest time I played Lineage2 and WOW ..after them is Vanguard and then AOC.

I saw and played over 35 mmos..but the best was 4 :AOC, VANGUARD, WOW, LINEAGE2.

AOC IS THE BEST AND WILL BE THE BEST.

Come back to AOC, join AOC and u'll se a different game since from begining.

Excuse my english.

I would not come back to AoC even if they refunded me the box cost and the 1 month extra subscription I (unfortunatly) paid for.

Yes, it REALLY IS that shit

Originally posted by xcvx73

               U dont know the fact that almost all the players of AOC  are not posting or looking on the forums. Im sure most of whiners are from "some companies" that are afraid they'll loose money....because AOC has a verry solid community and 500k subscribers...U dont know that many people bought the game but didnt played because they were in holiday...

           I agree with u the game still needs fixes to be made....but what mmo was perfect at the beggining?

          U forgot WOW becomed playable after 1 year...and even after 4 years it still have some problems...

           Yes , Funcom promised us many things ..but a few are live now...

           Im sure that until october  the major problems will be fixed.

           In 2 weeks the PVP system will be implemented.

          Soon they will include many new areas and many new quests( early september patch (version 2.0+)

          In some months many people that left will return..and others (new)  will join the game because many will realise that aoc is a mature game for mature players.

          Im not intend to convince u to play AOC ..u are free to choose what to play...but stop posting negative things about AOC . Ok what is real is real..but many of u post negative things about a game that u didnt played it.

        Maybe most of u will laugh of my post...but we'll see who will laugh better in some months...

      Yes ..there are many interesting games that will launch this autumn...WAR and maybe Darkfall. They worth a look but Im sure the same whiners will post negative things about WAR and Darkfall too.. And many of u u'll see WAR is interesting but childish and Darkfall too late for this times.

I preordered WAR and Ill preorder Darkfall too...Ill give them a try...But Im sure AOC will remain first option for me . Why I preordered them? Because after AOC they are the most interesting games and I want to see them. I played a lot of games since Ultima, until AOC. The longest time I played Lineage2 and WOW ..after them is Vanguard and then AOC.

I saw and played over 35 mmos..but the best was 4 :AOC, VANGUARD, WOW, LINEAGE2.

AOC IS THE BEST AND WILL BE THE BEST.

Come back to AOC, join AOC and u'll se a different game since from begining.

Excuse my english.

          

you were right.  i did laugh.

my friends and clan-mates that have all left, left because it was boring and nothing to do.  these are the same ones that stuck with wow for that first bumpy year, because it was still pretty fun.

Originally posted by xcvx73

AOC IS THE BEST AND WILL BE THE BEST.

Come back to AOC, join AOC and u'll se a different game since from begining.

Hehe now i composed my self and stopped laughing .

NO!

Crapcom has had to much money off me to fund there ****shit already.

They did not deliver the product promised which i bought in the first place why would i go back and belive there lies again?

Diffrent game you say so have they added all the new lvl 80 content, fixed all the bugs, made crafting worth while, got a high enough user base to seige and actualy have working seiges, have they balanced out the classes, have they removed the invisible walls and enabled us to explore? i could go on but i know all your answers are either no or they say its coming soon.

No matter what you do we will never return to this forsaken game. I think you should start to read the forums more and you will see the many reasons that players left...

Maybe 1 year down the road this game will be better, but by than, too little too late...

ps: Btw 500k sub you say? wait ill Q3 report and we see whether FC truly dare to talk about their numbers. You should have a clearer idea about the server sub since you are still playing. players is crying out for server merge already.  Again, read the forums if you are still in the state of denial...

Bye

this game has too many issues now to even remotely warrant a subscription. want my credibility? i have a gemmed dual wielding lvl 80 conqueror and lvl 40 necromancer on deathwhisper. majority of the guilds left the game already my whole guild dissolved. i was with AEGIS, we had about 60+ members. everyone either left, or went back/to WoW.

i think a good few of the dominant guilds (can only think of a few now so bare with me)LOTD, PRX-CQ, hell even Goonies who were once dominant during the first 1-2 months ended up barely hearing a murmur from them on local and region chat by the time i left. there are so many guilds that i know that either left entirely, or left somewhat. there is a lack of end game content, pvp which is susposed to have a end result is pretty much pointless, as there is aimless ganking due to boredom or being an A-hole due in part by boredom.

Seiges=broken not working

PVP= only partly enabled, its a grabbag of asshattery  at this point.

problems with gems not workng, being exploited, working wrong, not showing up.

graphical bugs

problematic crafting system due in part by the gemmed items.

lack of loot which is useful or unique.

bugged dungeons

performance bugs.

DX 10 client not aviable but is in fact on the box.

need i go on??

there is a fine line between  being tolerant of bugs. its like putting your head in the sand pretending a lion isnt bout to jump on you. your still going to get bit on the ass irregardless if you acknowledge it or not.

the problem with AoC is that people that HAVE played it and saw all the things they lied about and how it was at launch will not go back to it and will never recomend it to thier friends. first impressions are key for anything and even more so in MMO's look at Vanguard they have really turned that game around from the shit it was at launch but the people that played at launch and left will never go back and that will be true with AoC.

I personally played and cancelled i hadn't read all the otehr stuff that was suppose to be in there that wasn't cept for the dx10. that wasn't the reason i quit i just got bored with it really fast for some reason i have no idea why just didn't stick with me. at first found it alot of fun, but within a few weeks i realized i hadn't even been logging in at all for days.Only thing i can think of for me is the 1 single starting city, that is probably what drained me the most. making alts and what not to see wich of the classes i liked the best but to only do the same exact thing over and over before i found the class i liked the best i was just sick of it.

tortage should have been the trial area for people not where everyone and their brother has to start out with no other options.

I was going to write a long winded explination on why AoC failed me personally,,  but after spending 4 years waiting and watching it prior to release for the game to completely change from a finsihed product to hell on earth which was nothing like it was supposed to be i thought bugger it..  

good luck to those that play it, i hope you find it worth the £10.49 a month.

Me..  i'll stick to playing City of Heroes/Villains till Star Trek online or Knights of the old republic online come out.

WoW was fun to play even in the release, AoC was not. WoW was more polished even if it had its problems. AoC was like a alpha version at release, and still I think it is.

Originally posted by S1GNAL

WoW was fun to play even in the release, AoC was not. WoW was more polished even if it had its problems. AoC was like a alpha version at release, and still I think it is.

You forgot to add that this is your own personal opinion..

During my 2 months in AoC all that was mentioned in the global chat was things like "omg this is so much better than WoW's launch"  and this was by people stating they'd spend years in WoW..

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by S1GNAL

WoW was fun to play even in the release, AoC was not. WoW was more polished even if it had its problems. AoC was like a alpha version at release, and still I think it is.

 

You forgot to add that this is your own personal opinion..

During my 2 months in AoC all that was mentioned in the global chat was things like "omg this is so much better than WoW's launch"  and this was by people stating they'd spend years in WoW..

Id have to agree with S1GNAL , the only problems i had with wow was with servers being busy or going down.

But then again no one not even the gamers expected there to be so much interest, also the fact the server hardware was not as resilliant as it is today.

other than the i thought release was awsome and nothing like AOC.

As for WOW graphics i liked them, im in to anime and graphics, they had a vision and they deliverd it very very well.

As for AoC global chat i never once saw this.

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by S1GNAL

WoW was fun to play even in the release, AoC was not. WoW was more polished even if it had its problems. AoC was like a alpha version at release, and still I think it is.

 

You forgot to add that this is your own personal opinion..

During my 2 months in AoC all that was mentioned in the global chat was things like "omg this is so much better than WoW's launch"  and this was by people stating they'd spend years in WoW..

I dont recall reading anyone saying that

Because its simply not true

you is a three letter word

I purchased WoW 3 days after release (got the last box off the shelf) other than log in ques it was exteremely playable. I got sick of the ugly graphics after 3 weeks and went nback to EQII but otherwise it was a good game. I guess you guys figure if you keep repeating a lie long enough someone will believe it. Newsflash - all gamers are not that stupid and a lot of us have been around for sevceral years.

I wouldn't go back to AoC even if they paid me to play and I had a full frontal labotomy.

Originally posted by xcvx73

               U dont know the fact that almost all the players of AOC  are not posting or looking on the forums. Im sure most of whiners are from "some companies" that are afraid they'll loose money....because AOC has a verry solid community and 500k subscribers...U dont know that many people bought the game but didnt played because they were in holiday...

           I agree with u the game still needs fixes to be made....but what mmo was perfect at the beggining?

          U forgot WOW becomed playable after 1 year...and even after 4 years it still have some problems...

           Yes , Funcom promised us many things ..but a few are live now...

           Im sure that until october  the major problems will be fixed.

           In 2 weeks the PVP system will be implemented.

          Soon they will include many new areas and many new quests( early september patch (version 2.0+)

          In some months many people that left will return..and others (new)  will join the game because many will realise that aoc is a mature game for mature players.

          Im not intend to convince u to play AOC ..u are free to choose what to play...but stop posting negative things about AOC . Ok what is real is real..but many of u post negative things about a game that u didnt played it.

        Maybe most of u will laugh of my post...but we'll see who will laugh better in some months...

      Yes ..there are many interesting games that will launch this autumn...WAR and maybe Darkfall. They worth a look but Im sure the same whiners will post negative things about WAR and Darkfall too.. And many of u u'll see WAR is interesting but childish and Darkfall too late for this times.

I preordered WAR and Ill preorder Darkfall too...Ill give them a try...But Im sure AOC will remain first option for me . Why I preordered them? Because after AOC they are the most interesting games and I want to see them. I played a lot of games since Ultima, until AOC. The longest time I played Lineage2 and WOW ..after them is Vanguard and then AOC.

I saw and played over 35 mmos..but the best was 4 :AOC, VANGUARD, WOW, LINEAGE2.

AOC IS THE BEST AND WILL BE THE BEST.

Come back to AOC, join AOC and u'll se a different game since from begining.

Excuse my english.

          

I admire your loyalty to the game ..but let me give you an analogy on how I see your post..

"I've just bought a car ,2 of if it's wheels are flat ,the radio only picks some Siberian Mining Station radio frequency ,every 100 miles its stops . I'm being charged extra  for the fact the car has this revolutionary GPRS system but it doesn't work. It overheats on a regular basis and I find that there is intermittent clicking noise from the air-con that despite the fact it's been to the dealership 3 times they can't seem to fix it . However please buy the same model as me ...please buy this same car .It has potential ..it will one day be a great car "

Sorry Op but thats not the way the world of MMO games  works ...Funcom had it's chance.Most people have moved on and will continue to do so .There are other MMO that are coming that will hopefully deliver what people are looking for ..but AOC isn't it :)

Don't put me in the same catagory as the WoW bashers please, i tried the trial as thought that besides the graphics being lower spec (understandable as the devs wanted the game to play on a lot more computers so it was nessasary to cut down details in order to get more subs), the 2 things i have against WoW are simply that it's gameplay is the same as every other MMORPG out on the market, only the background story and theme is different, same boring old thing to me..  the other thing i have against it is the portion of WoW's community that go into other game forums just to mouth off and start hassle..

I was on Crom server for AoC and i can tell you that from launch night (23rd) there was a lot of people chatting about how good a launch it was compared to WoW and then they went into details about their WoW characters and how long they'd been playing it..

Call me a liar if you will but i KNOW what i saw and who i interacted with, i have nothing to gain by stating things that are untrue as i play neither WoW or AoC and think that apart from graphics, theme and combat style nothing is different between them and every other MMO out.

It is actually pretty pathetic when FunCom employees come here and try to make propaganda posts to support their dead game. LOL makes me laugh though!

Originally posted by xcvx73

           Come back to AOC, join AOC and u'll se a different game since from begining.          

you're joking right?....I played from launch till one month ago.... kept track of the "pretended" updates/patches...   what is different?  its more buggy?.... people get banned doing raids through a third party programs FunCom tried out instead of allowing punkbuster to come in?... or do you mean how they taunted us with "revolutionary" combat, then BANNED people for jumping on rocks in PvP???

are those the changes you are referring to?.... it sure isnt the PvP patch (currently 4 months overdue)... sure not the great new things to do when you get to 80....

what are you referring to???

Some people are comfortable with paying money for a half assed beta. I would too, probably, if the game was entertaining me. Unfortunately it wasn't.

Even if it was bug free, had a stable client, without jewel twinks and had all content that they promised us it would have ...

... then I would still trash this game because of instanced public zones, fast traveling by dying and the world pvp raids ignoring any interesting tactical geography of a zone but homing in on the nearest respad before you can say 'FailCom'.

It is beautiful and has great animations and fast paced pvp, unfortunately they forgot about immersion. The game will never be fun to me unless they change the basics and I can't see that happen in a year or so.

Wait, wait, wait...You're saying WAR is childish? Do you even know the backstory of WAR? What the orcs do to their enemies? Hell, what CHAOS do to their enemies? Yeah, in AoC, you can chop someones head off. Good job. In WAR, Chaos rip your soul from your body and use your flesh as a sacrifice to their hellish gods. Last time I checked, demon worship wasn't really a kiddie thing. WAR's story is WAY more mature than AoC. If you ever decide to pick up a book and actually read, you'll find out.