Look at Runescape. It may still be a browser game but it just recently broke the world record for most popular free MMORPG of all time. Hell it even has over 200k active subscriptions. It brings in millions a month. I don't know why people say graphics matter so much.

Originally posted by c1c3r0

Look at Runescape. It may still be a browser game but it just recently broke the world record for most popular free MMORPG of all time. Hell it even has over 200k active subscriptions. It brings in millions a month. I don't know why people say graphics matter so much.

there alot of gfx whores out there

Because for every person that likes Runescape, there's probably 10 that don't because of it's graphics.

Edit: Darkfall will be a niche game anyways and the people who play it are the type of gamers who don't care as much about graphics, that's fine.

Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

Because for every person that likes Runescape, there's probably 10 that don't because of it's graphics.

and the gameplay is ultimate #$%^

its not the low polygon count that bugs me. its just that the models,animation and sound are just ugly.

thats why i cant stand vanguard

Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

Because for every person that likes Runescape, there's probably 10 that don't because of it's graphics.

Would have played it had the graphics been nicer.

You think they wouldve had time to make em a bit better in 7 years or however long.

Originally posted by rawRzorz

Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

Because for every person that likes Runescape, there's probably 10 that don't because of it's graphics.

 

and the gameplay is ultimate #$%^

Not for young kids who use it as their first MMO. Well, actually, it's not that bad of a first MMO for anyone back in the day, though they're targetting kids now. There was always something to do (even if it was a grind - when you play your first MMO you really don't know what a "grind" is, you just see it as working for something worthwhile). And combat was crappy, sure, but until I left for DAoC I had no idea what else was out there.

There IS a reason it has so many accounts!

Let's get real here.  There is NO WAY that Darkfall could function with large battles and static seige events with AoC-type graphics.  I think after 7 years this development team, which obviously has talent, could have come up with better graphics if they chose to.

I will gladly sacrifice from incredible graphics to decent graphics if the game runs smoothly and fairly lag-free.

But there is no way this game can do all they want it to do with top of the line graphics, no way.  It's amazing enough that it is 100% skill-based and has such a large world map.  I'm glad the graphics are as good as they are.  They aren't much below Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and those were just fine for me.

Originally posted by Thunderous

Let's get real here.  There is NO WAY that Darkfall could function with large battles and static seige events with AoC-type graphics.  I think after 7 years this development team, which obviously has talent, could have come up with better graphics if they chose to.

I will gladly sacrifice from incredible graphics to decent graphics if the game runs smoothly and fairly lag-free.

But there is no way this game can do all they want it to do with top of the line graphics, no way.  It's amazing enough that it is 100% skill-based and has such a large world map.  I'm glad the graphics are as good as they are.  They aren't much below Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and those were just fine for me.

/Signed

Originally posted by c1c3r0

Look at Runescape. It may still be a browser game but it just recently broke the world record for most popular free MMORPG of all time. Hell it even has over 200k active subscriptions. It brings in millions a month. I don't know why people say graphics matter so much.

With the increase in technology, gamers are seeking titles with more of an aesthetic appeal.  Its always been that way.  People want the next big thing; if not just to look at it for curiositys sake.  If the game plays to the persons liking then they end up sticking around.  Its not that graphics matter; but, they have a certain allure to gamers looking for something new and up to date.

Graphics matter. That doesn't mean we want lots and lots of polygons. It's just that, graphics do matter. I liked much more the 2d graphics for Runescape. And the models before Luclin in EQ. It's not the complexity, it's a well designed graphic style that matters.

Originally posted by Thunderous

Let's get real here.  There is NO WAY that Darkfall could function with large battles and static seige events with AoC-type graphics.  I think after 7 years this development team, which obviously has talent, could have come up with better graphics if they chose to.

I will gladly sacrifice from incredible graphics to decent graphics if the game runs smoothly and fairly lag-free.

But there is no way this game can do all they want it to do with top of the line graphics, no way.  It's amazing enough that it is 100% skill-based and has such a large world map.  I'm glad the graphics are as good as they are.  They aren't much below Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and those were just fine for me.

and its only medium settings
 

Who knows what rez they are using and if the graphic settings are on high or not, its only the beta client and a lot of games dont have all the animations on. I remember the AoC betta didnt have the blood splatter on till retail and WoW didnt have the water animations on till they went into beta, so I think wait and see what they will be once we get our hands on it. 

because its the same people in this thread and forum fans of Darkfall who come over to games like WAR and say the graphics suck even though they are on low and keep touting it? can't have your cake and eat it too :P

graphics do matter to an extent you want to enjoy looking at what you play too. I've seen better free to play game graphics than what was shown on the df video.

Graphics to me have never really mattered. What really matters of course is gameplay. But here's the thing. When I play games like DaoC or even some of the older f2p titles like Runescape, the graphics fit the game and the time it was issued in. Now as for Darkfall, the gameplay looks decent. The graphics on the other hand don't fit with a game that should be debuting in 2008/2009. Regardless of gameplay, the graphics should fit the era. Making them resemble less, not only makes investors cringe, but also shows a lack in your game engine. With todays standerds, a game should be able to be marketed as not only a nice looking game, but with great gameplay. But things that SHOULD happen never usually do. If we lived in a world were computers were cheaper than rent, then maybe we would see games that fit both roles. But with a huge gap in lower to higher end machine, we get what we get basically. I say in 5-10 years, when more people have computers that are higher quality, we may see better looking and playing games. But by then they will be dated also. What we are stuck in is a cycle and we probably won't ever ketch up. :(

Originally posted by minocin

graphics do matter to an extent you want to enjoy looking at what you play too. I've seen better free to play game graphics than what was shown on the df video.

so have I but there not for massive battles either in a fps setting and there ussly high settings not medium like the vid was. theny ou have fraps and compression degration to account for

There is a certain minimum for graphics where it makes a difference, I bet Darkfall hits that minimum but the graphics in the trailer probably did not. They are only slightly better than EQ/SB and that is just sad in this day and age. I bet the reality is better than that with full graphics enabled etc.

Originally posted by Ender4

There is a certain minimum for graphics where it makes a difference, I bet Darkfall hits that minimum but the graphics in the trailer probably did not. They are only slightly better than EQ/SB and that is just sad in this day and age. I bet the reality is better than that with full graphics enabled etc.

from what i understand the game has a huge settings diffrence to make sure most systems can play it with decent frames. guess we will have to see.

im afraid of what low will look like

this game is suppose to be vaporware...  in other words.. nothing, they just push in this video to hype a bit more and keep the vapor away from dissipating