Doesn't WAR have gender restrictions on some classes? I haven't been following it, but I thought it did for some reason.

Anyway, I'm sick of seeing this issue come up, it's only a big deal if you make it a big deal (which you're doing). If someone gives you shit call them a loser and move on, because it doesn't matter at all. Real girls deal with annoying people hitting on them all the time as do some guys. Suck it up, file it in your brain under "things I probably shouldn't do" and move on.

As to everyone else, there's NOTHING to understand about it. That guy in the game is not you and will never be you, it's a game, and whether or not the polygons resemble a guy or a girl is irrelevent. People who care about this are probably the same people who force me to mute them when there's a girl in the group.

I roll females, and never ever have problems. I am male.

Hey babe!   

Dude

Yeah babe?  

No Dude.

C'mon babe  

No. I'm a Dude..

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Originally posted by zindel

Koscher or Queer? hehe

Which is more queer?

1. A male player at character creation, going "oh yeah, nice lips on that face, nice ass, height..... yah shes hot" *Submit*

2. A male player spending the same amount of time and effort trying to make a "good looking" dude.

Not that there is anything wrong with gay or lesbian players (known a few females who played male toons), but if you're a phobic and guys playing girls wigs you out, might check yourself to see if you're not the queer one.

(that was a general statement, not directed towards you enigma)

Actually, you need a reality check bud. Most gays act like girls, which explains their abundance in fashion shows and what not. Personally, #2 only shows that the guy is perfectly fine with his sexuality, while #1 shows the guy needing to prove his sexuality.. which all in all, shows an immense chance of "hiding in the closet".

/sarcasm (That was a general statement, not directed towards you zindel)

and

/pwned.

Anime chics FTL!

Seeing that I usually play female avatars, even though I am a guy, I figured I might be able to shed some light on the whole thing.

1: When I create a char in an MMO this is not my alter ego, just a character.
2: Boobs (right...)
3: I'd rather watch a bunch of female shaped polygons than male. Especially when you are stuck in 3rd person view. In other words, the idea of watching some tight ass running around and on top of it all, belonging to a male character, does not appeal much to me.

Anyhow, my take on the whole female avatar.
Regarding pre-teens trying to cyber... Well... I've just had this issue twice in my mmo career. And both sent me gold. *laughs* They demanded it back after I told them I was indeed of the less fair sex, but after mentioning "Chat logs" that stopped fast.

There was a guy who accually funded his epic mount in World of Warcraft doing this (on purpose mind you) before BC.

I've always had a problem with MMO's presenting their female characters without many clothes on.

There is something sexist about all of that and if puts the female character not on an equal footing with her male counterpart who is dressed up in his suit of armor.

I would hope Mythic allows for their female characters with more dress options rather than the way they are presented now.

I remember reading also in WoW there was a poll asking how many men played female characters-the response was about 49% male online players played female characters.

Now is this some secret desire on the part of men to be females in a fantasy world?

I play a character I would like to look at for a long time and tbh I'd rather look at a sexy female than a big butch man.

 Play what you want and don't worry about some random internet freak who wants to cyborz in a mmorpg game 

If anything it's a good way to know to immediately put said user on ignore and never have to end up grouping with them 

To each their own. Playing a different gender than one's own can be for so many personal reasons, there's no sense in speculation. *shrug*

Whatever gives you the best feeling during game play works for me.

People should play whatever they feel like.  I have played both male and female characters in the 8ish years I have played mmorpgs, and I have never been bothered by anyone, neither have my sister, or any of the female players I know irl. I am male btw.

People who bother others due to the way their avatar looks like, are just scum, and you should ignore them. There is no way I am going to exclude myself from playing a certain class, just because it so happends, that in the warhammer world, it is gender specific. 

It's funny though, alot of people seem to have this inherent knee jerk reaction to males playing female toons, but somehow it is ok, for female players to play male characters. Which is of course just garbage. Last time I checked, mmorpgs are not some bizarre kind of a dating service, so I really fail to see why anyone cares about what some complete stranger's toon looks like.

Originally posted by Ryman86

Originally posted by zindel

Koscher or Queer? hehe

Which is more queer?

1. A male player at character creation, going "oh yeah, nice lips on that face, nice ass, height..... yah shes hot" *Submit*

2. A male player spending the same amount of time and effort trying to make a "good looking" dude.

Not that there is anything wrong with gay or lesbian players (known a few females who played male toons), but if you're a phobic and guys playing girls wigs you out, might check yourself to see if you're not the queer one.

(that was a general statement, not directed towards you enigma)

 

Actually, you need a reality check bud. Most gays act like girls, which explains their abundance in fashion shows and what not. Personally, #2 only shows that the guy is perfectly fine with his sexuality, while #1 shows the guy needing to prove his sexuality.. which all in all, shows an immense chance of "hiding in the closet".

/sarcasm (That was a general statement, not directed towards you zindel)

and

/pwned.

Anime chics FTL! 

I engage in both 1 & 2 depending on which gender I feel like playing. It isn't about looking at your character, it is about identifying with your character. In an MMO it's essentially your alter ego, an extension of yourself and how you want the rest of the world to perceive you. Even when playing a female character as a male, you will choose close to what you would imagine yourself as a female. People that say "oh I'm playing this chick cause I think she's hot" are only half right and are in denial :) Most people will have trouble distancing themselves from their avatar 100%.

Secondly I know 4 gay men in real life and I can tell you NONE of them act like females in any way. Unless you count being abit overly self-conscious feminine, in which case all them unnatural hairless perfume smelling metros are in the basket. :) You should probably stop forming your preconceptions about homosexuals from watching TV.

Only really disturbing thing I find in the gender jungle is the anime/korean MMO males. It says they're male when you're creating the character but no matter how much you try to customize he refusees to look like one...

Originally posted by Digna

While I have never understood males who play females, I know it's a personal choice. My brother does it (mostly to annoy me I think.) Just use /ignore liberally. While there will always be 'nuts' and 'kiddies' I think WAR for the most part won't be the same as in other games. You could always try to 'dumb down' the beauty if you want. Throw some evil eyes in or a scar/burn. To push the 'kiddies' back a bit. Then you'll just get the real freaks.

What's not to understand?  You can stare at a male avatar's ass for hours on end while playing or you can stare at a female's.  For this male, it's not a tough choice.

As for the whole "pixels aren't hot" argument, again I say - you can stare at a fake pixel male ass or you can stare at a fake pixel female ass.  Still not a tough choice.

:p

For me it has always been an issue of aesthetics.  If I like the looks of a female character for a specific class I play it, and the same goes for a male character.  Those of you that are shouting about homosexuals should be worried more about your own sexuality over that of others.

Never knew there were so many closet cases associated with playing a female character.  Almost as funny as the raging virg' fest rants over showing nudity in AoC.  Almost.

Originally posted by Hazmal

Never knew there were so many closet cases associated with playing a female character.  Almost as funny as the raging virg' fest rants over showing nudity in AoC.  Almost.

On the interwebs everyone is a master of knowing. . .

Originally posted by Digna

While I have never understood males who play females, I know it's a personal choice. My brother does it (mostly to annoy me I think.) Just use /ignore liberally. While there will always be 'nuts' and 'kiddies' I think WAR for the most part won't be the same as in other games. You could always try to 'dumb down' the beauty if you want. Throw some evil eyes in or a scar/burn. To push the 'kiddies' back a bit. Then you'll just get the real freaks.

Because no offense we are not <insert word>. This toon will be played by you for a long time and at the end of the day do you want to see a female or a male. My guess would be female if your not of the <insert word> persuasion then which you would like to see a male. But this is being that you are a male.

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

Originally posted by laresloci

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

 

I have played female characters for quiet some time and the only game I have had anyone hit on me was in WoW.  If anything its those that are looking for a relationship within a virtual world are those that need some serious help.

Originally posted by laresloci

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

 

People giving away free stuff and treating a person differently, just because of the way a toon looks, seem to be the ones with a problem.

Originally posted by Fungo

Originally posted by laresloci

I asked one guy  why he played female toons and he said that he gets way more repect and free stuff.

So, I desided to roll one. Well never again. I had more guys hitting on me then you can shake a stick.

 

 

People giving away free stuff and treating a person differently, just because of the way a toon looks, seem to be the ones with a problem.

Its the way of a dude you try to court your lady to get somthing in return later but they dont seem to wrap around the idea that that this is a virtual world u dont have to do that. But boys will be boys