I wont deny that I'm in some way is disappointed in AOC. I was drawn into the hype and defended the
game on the forums. I even flamed in the WAR section, not evening knowing what I was talking about.

I havent played AOC for months. Not that I dislike the game, but rather that I'm sick of MMOs
and other games for the moment (I have pre-ordered WAR).

Funcom should get a kick in the butt for all there promises etc, I can agree with that.
Also the game engine seems to be written in spagetti-code. The devs change, fix or
add stuff in one section of the game, just to break another part of the game. That happens
easily when the foundation of the core code is hastly written and not object oriented.
Instead of using scripts, they are probably adding game logic directly into the code core.

Funcom aimed really high with AOC, and are now paying the price for it.

But in a longer perspective, AOC has really improved since launch. And the upcoming
features look great. Funcom doesnt deny that they are looking at the good stuff of other MMOs
trying to duplicate the features into there own game. This is in some way bad, since the
core of the game has to be modified in an extent It wasnt built orginally for.
But, on the other hand it's good thing since they dont let the game engine limit
what they can bring into the game.

AOC deserves some crap (I agree with that), but at the moment AOC it getting a really ridiculus
amount of crap that is not really fair. The game is not a disaster. The graphics and sound
is awesome, and I really like the inital PvE of the game. The PvP is a mess, which I hope
and belive they will fix. It just need some time.

At the moment I'm taking a break from all MMOs. I've pre-ordered WAR and will check it out
when it's released. But after being burned by the AOC hype, I don't have to high hopes
about WAR. Not that I belive it is unstabled, unbalanced, bad PvP, but rather that I frankly
have never played a MMO that lives up to the hype at release.

It takes years for MMOs to mature. WOW is great in it's own way, but lack the graphics and
sound of todays modern hardware. Same goes to EQ2, which has become a really nice.

At the moment, AOC has some aces in there deck of cards. The graphic in the game
is modern and will look great for years. Secondly, I find the melee combat system to
be plain awesome. I don't know any other MMO who can compete with those to
facts. Just give AOC some time (1-2 years), and It will be one of the bests MMOs
on the market.

Actually you are paying the price. There are so many AOC fans there are burned out now because of the huge hyper and had so high hopes for the game. 

On a side note WAR is shaping up very nicely, so I hear......

Why did you pre-order WAR if you're sick of MMOs?

Originally posted by Crusher

Just give AOC some time (1-2 years), and It will be one of the bests MMOs
on the market.

About 1-2 years from now Guild Wars 2 is released.

Originally posted by UncertaintyP

Why did you pre-order WAR if you're sick of MMOs?

I'm a MMO - holic. I'm a fool thinking that I will eventually find the ultimate MMO, the god of
all RPGs :)

Originally posted by Gurtelrose

Originally posted by Crusher

Just give AOC some time (1-2 years), and It will be one of the bests MMOs
on the market.

 

About 1-2 years from now Guild Wars 2 is released.

And we can play more counter-strike with bows and fireballs.

If Funcom doesn't sink with ship and crew before then, I expect the game to have become worthwhile in a year or so. Possibly even faster, if they invent some grand dummy project to keep Gaute Godager occupied while they salvage what they can of the AoC wreckage and rebuild it.

AoC is the biggest disaster of the MMO world hands down.

I'll take MMO disasters for $50 Alex.

What MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features?

Originally posted by Ed2099

I'll take MMO disasters for $50 Alex.

What MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features?

LOL that is funny.
 

I'll take MMO disasters for $100 Alex

What game company released a highly anticipated MMO that sold 800k copies but still lost $6 milion dollars the quarter it was released?

I define disaster as

(potential success #) - (actual result #) = (disaster magnitude #)

With this definition, AOC is the single biggest MMO disaster of all time

Originally posted by Ed2099

I'll take MMO disasters for $50 Alex.

What MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features?

What MMO ever got so many subscribers within 1st month after release ?

p.s. About lost half or more question (2007/2008) = vanguard,  tabula rasa .. those two are well known.

What relevance does it have to have so many subscribers after 1 month only to lose half or more.

Originally posted by Deto123

What relevance does it have to have so many subscribers after 1 month only to lose half or more.

Good question.  None.

People everywhere are used to paying $50 for a PC or console game.  It is no shocker that a lot of people buy AoC only to try it for 30 days and never play again.  Most gamers don't like $15 a month fees for games.  Besides, my best friends gets one or two new video games every other weekend.  People are used to a weekend or two of a game, beating it, and going to buy the next game they want to try.

In my guild, we had over 100 of us playing AoC when it started.  Now, we are split between WAR and DFO.  Everyone started playing AoC.  Only four are still playing as of last weekend.  If our guild is any indication of most pvp guilds out there, pvpers were highly disappointed in AoC.

Originally posted by Deto123

What relevance does it have to have so many subscribers after 1 month only to lose half or more.

The relevance in that is that the game was so crappy that they couldn't retain the people playing.

Originally posted by Crusher

Originally posted by UncertaintyP

Why did you pre-order WAR if you're sick of MMOs?

 

I'm a MMO - holic. I'm a fool thinking that I will eventually find the ultimate MMO, the god of
all RPGs :)

They ultimate MMO's have come and gone..  Ultima Online Pre-Trammel, and SWG pre-CU/NGE.

All that's left now is. /yawn fests and LOTRO.. (lol)  thank god there's about 300 decent X360 games coming out in the next few months to keep us entertained.  (And Little Big Planet for all the PS3 peoples!)  :)

Deserves alot more crap and is when said and done the worst mmo ever released. Just wait till the 3rd and 4th or year end report come out.

Its hard to say or put into any real perspective because there was and is so much dishonesty.

It poisons everyone's perceptions of things.  Even people who are not that involved.

The thing is in some aspects AoC was very good.  But it was so bad in some ways and those things were clearly used in a con job that doing a simple plus minus summation analysis just doesn't really happen.  Instead it becomes just plain bad.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Deserves alot more crap and is when said and done the worst mmo ever released. Just wait till the 3rd and 4th or year end report come out.

This was the kind of crap I was saying about WAR, just before AOC was released :)

I didn't know what I was talking about.

Originally posted by Crusher

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Deserves alot more crap and is when said and done the worst mmo ever released. Just wait till the 3rd and 4th or year end report come out.

 

This was the kind of crap I was saying about WAR, just before AOC was released :)

I didn't know what I was talking about.

The Q2 report was damning enough to cause a landslide in Funcoms' financial stablilty. And the game has degraded further since then. So it is easy to predict the Q3 report at least will be even more damning. The difference between your predictions for WAR and our predictions for AoC is we have publicly verifiable information to back ours up.

"AOC deserves some crap YES, disaster NO "

No disaster Yes. I gave up after reaching lvl 70 and just couldn't see myself grinding anymore Villas. God what a drag, I had high hopes for this one. You hit lvl 20 and the game starts falling apart.