Are you trying to imply that WoW does not have good hraphics? {Mod Edit}

WoW's graphics completely demolish this games graphics.

Originally posted by tsitluc

So in short: Video didn't make me go WEEEE and it didn't make me go *puke*.

 And there my friends is the exact reason this game will fail and be long forgotten.

It's mediocre crap at best. And in todays MMORPG market you need to have an OUTSTANDING product to succeed.

Outstanding meaning up to date graphics , full PvE content , no bugs , awesome customer support...

This is why Blizzard is king and will always be.

Yea wrong.

But didnt realize you were a WoW fanboi...just thought you were an angry attention wh***

You aren't even fun to debate with anymore, block list ftw.

edit: just noticed your join date.  probably gmny or another troll that got banned yesterday on a new account.  hows it feel to be wrong?

Originally posted by tsitluc

Are you trying to imply that WoW does not have good hraphics? {Mod Edit}

WoW's graphics completely demolish this games graphics.

I'm implying that WoW definately does NOT have up-to-date graphics. They graphics are kept in a comic-style for a reason. It's successful BECAUSE it doesn#t have up-to-date graphics (part of the reason anyway).

If you try to tell people WoW has up-to-date graphics....well seriously.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by tsitluc

Are you trying to imply that WoW does not have good hraphics? {Mod Edit}

WoW's graphics completely demolish this games graphics.

 

I'm implying that WoW definately does NOT have up-to-date graphics. They graphics are kept in a comic-style for a reason. It's successful BECAUSE it doesn#t have up-to-date graphics (part of the reason anyway).

 

If you try to tell people WoW has up-to-date graphics....well seriously.

Kinda feel sorry for this guy tsitluc.

He just done have a clue.

WoW success have alot to do with its low barrier in graphics.

Just about everyone can play it, even on old computers cause their graphics is poor.

Have a nice one

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Originally posted by tsitluc

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So in short: Video didn't make me go WEEEE and it didn't make me go *puke*.

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 And there my friends is the exact reason this game will fail and be long forgotten.
It's mediocre crap at best. And in todays MMORPG market you need to have an OUTSTANDING product to succeed.
Outstanding meaning up to date graphics , full PvE content , no bugs , awesome customer support...
This is why Blizzard is king and will always be.

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wow was a step back for mmorpgs, if you played uo + ac you would know this:

1) instances, wtf - now we are going back to the 90's lans making parrallel worlds, 100% break immersion of this virtual fantasy world. Hey i just killed Onyxia, no you didnt because i killed him yesterday.

2) everyone looks the same, has same equipment.

3) No sandbox, play it the blizzard way or not at all. Previious mmorpgs was a simulation of a fantasy world, you just found out what you want to do yourself, no path you are lead down, no handholding all the way.

4) No consequence, kill your enemy and he is back 1 min later fully geared, a total waste of time. In uo/ac you loot the fuckers items, and he wont be back anytime soon. This way you can control areas of the world + ressouces, if you kill the guys who are in a dungeons, you control that area of the world. Your actions has impact on the world, they cant just jump into another instance.

I can go on but im sure it wont help you understand.

With DF we are getting back on track, and continueing the evolution from uo + ac etc.

Originally posted by KhaelSan

 

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Originally posted by tsitluc

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So in short: Video didn't make me go WEEEE and it didn't make me go *puke*.

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 And there my friends is the exact reason this game will fail and be long forgotten.
It's mediocre crap at best. And in todays MMORPG market you need to have an OUTSTANDING product to succeed.
Outstanding meaning up to date graphics , full PvE content , no bugs , awesome customer support...
This is why Blizzard is king and will always be.

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wow was a step back for mmorpgs, if you played uo + ac you would know this:

1) instances, wtf - now we are going back to the 90's lans making parrallel worlds, 100% break immersion of this virtual fantasy world. Hey i just killed Onyxia, no you didnt because i killed him yesterday.

2) everyone looks the same, has same equipment.

3) No sandbox, play it the blizzard way or not at all. Previious mmorpgs was a simulation of a fantasy world, you just found out what you want to do yourself, no path you are lead down, no handholding all the way.

4) No consequence, kill your enemy and he is back 1 min later fully geared, a total waste of time. In uo/ac you loot the fuckers items, and he wont be back anytime soon. This way you can control areas of the world + ressouces, if you kill the guys who are in a dungeons, you control that area of the world. Your actions has impact on the world, they cant just jump into another instance.

I can go on but im sure it wont help you understand.

With DF we are getting back on track, and continueing the evolution from uo + ac etc.

*sigh* Funny, how I disagree with almost everyone here. XD

Anyway, no, WoW was not a step backwards. It was a step forward, because it opened up the genre to a much broader audience and it gave a lot of people a game they could enjoy and have fun in. Which is, by definition, what a game should do, right?

Just because a bunch of people wants to have it a certain other way doesn't mean it is the ONLY way. Please don't start with the elitism again, and trying to imply that Sandbox is the only TRUE game. That is your opinion, and for you, that may be the truth (as for everyone who thinks that way), but the millions of people enjoying WoW and games like it are not wrong because you say so.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by KhaelSan

 

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Originally posted by tsitluc

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So in short: Video didn't make me go WEEEE and it didn't make me go *puke*.

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 And there my friends is the exact reason this game will fail and be long forgotten.
It's mediocre crap at best. And in todays MMORPG market you need to have an OUTSTANDING product to succeed.
Outstanding meaning up to date graphics , full PvE content , no bugs , awesome customer support...
This is why Blizzard is king and will always be.

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wow was a step back for mmorpgs, if you played uo + ac you would know this:

1) instances, wtf - now we are going back to the 90's lans making parrallel worlds, 100% break immersion of this virtual fantasy world. Hey i just killed Onyxia, no you didnt because i killed him yesterday.

2) everyone looks the same, has same equipment.

3) No sandbox, play it the blizzard way or not at all. Previious mmorpgs was a simulation of a fantasy world, you just found out what you want to do yourself, no path you are lead down, no handholding all the way.

4) No consequence, kill your enemy and he is back 1 min later fully geared, a total waste of time. In uo/ac you loot the fuckers items, and he wont be back anytime soon. This way you can control areas of the world + ressouces, if you kill the guys who are in a dungeons, you control that area of the world. Your actions has impact on the world, they cant just jump into another instance.

I can go on but im sure it wont help you understand.

With DF we are getting back on track, and continueing the evolution from uo + ac etc.

 

*sigh* Funny, how I disagree with almost everyone here. XD

 

Anyway, no, WoW was not a step backwards. It was a step forward, because it opened up the genre to a much broader audience and it gave a lot of people a game they could enjoy and have fun in. Which is, by definition, what a game should do, right?

 

Just because a bunch of people wants to have it a certain other way doesn't mean it is the ONLY way. Please don't start with the elitism again, and trying to imply that Sandbox is the only TRUE game. That is your opinion, and for you, that may be the truth (as for everyone who thinks that way), but the millions of people enjoying WoW and games like it are not wrong because you say so.

WoW was a huge step backwards. It was almost a epic step backwards. I have my roots in games like UO like KhaelSun describes above.

When WoW arrived there were no competition from games like Darkfall and the players of WoW couldnt compare that game with a sandbox game.

There havent been a fantasy sandbox since UO went gear based with Age of Shadows in february 2003. So in fact there been no competition btw the themepark games and the sandbox games since early 2003.

I played WoW for a year cause i didnt have anything else to play in the MMORPG genre except UO freeshards. I disliked WoW endgame so much as i ever disliked any game before and after that experience. It was brainkilling. Amazingly boring.

A good sandbox endgame is what you make it. Its total freedom for the player. It will never get boring.

I dont know if you experienced games im talking about, but if you havent i strongly suggest you try one out. Who knows, i might be right and you'll thank me in the end. =)

Have a nice one

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by KhaelSan

 

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Originally posted by tsitluc

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So in short: Video didn't make me go WEEEE and it didn't make me go *puke*.

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 And there my friends is the exact reason this game will fail and be long forgotten.
It's mediocre crap at best. And in todays MMORPG market you need to have an OUTSTANDING product to succeed.
Outstanding meaning up to date graphics , full PvE content , no bugs , awesome customer support...
This is why Blizzard is king and will always be.

---

 

wow was a step back for mmorpgs, if you played uo + ac you would know this:

1) instances, wtf - now we are going back to the 90's lans making parrallel worlds, 100% break immersion of this virtual fantasy world. Hey i just killed Onyxia, no you didnt because i killed him yesterday.

2) everyone looks the same, has same equipment.

3) No sandbox, play it the blizzard way or not at all. Previious mmorpgs was a simulation of a fantasy world, you just found out what you want to do yourself, no path you are lead down, no handholding all the way.

4) No consequence, kill your enemy and he is back 1 min later fully geared, a total waste of time. In uo/ac you loot the fuckers items, and he wont be back anytime soon. This way you can control areas of the world + ressouces, if you kill the guys who are in a dungeons, you control that area of the world. Your actions has impact on the world, they cant just jump into another instance.

I can go on but im sure it wont help you understand.

With DF we are getting back on track, and continueing the evolution from uo + ac etc.

 

*sigh* Funny, how I disagree with almost everyone here. XD

 

Anyway, no, WoW was not a step backwards. It was a step forward, because it opened up the genre to a much broader audience and it gave a lot of people a game they could enjoy and have fun in. Which is, by definition, what a game should do, right?

 

Just because a bunch of people wants to have it a certain other way doesn't mean it is the ONLY way. Please don't start with the elitism again, and trying to imply that Sandbox is the only TRUE game. That is your opinion, and for you, that may be the truth (as for everyone who thinks that way), but the millions of people enjoying WoW and games like it are not wrong because you say so.

 

WoW was a huge step backwards. It was almost a epic step backwards. I have my roots in games like UO like KhaelSun describes above.

When WoW arrived there were no competition from games like Darkfall and the players of WoW couldnt compare that game with a sandbox game.

There havent been a fantasy sandbox since UO went gear based with Age of Shadows in february 2003. So in fact there been no competition btw the themepark games and the sandbox games since early 2003.

I played WoW for a year cause i didnt have anything else to play in the MMORPG genre except UO freeshards. I disliked WoW endgame so much as i ever disliked any game before and after that experience. It was brainkilling. Amazingly boring.

A good sandbox endgame is what you make it. Its total freedom for the player. It will never get boring.

I dont know if you experienced games im talking about, but if you havent i strongly suggest you try one out. Who knows, i might be right and toull thank me in the end. =)

Have a nice one

 

Yes, I have experienced the same games you have.

That doesn't change a thing. And no, Darkfall will not ever be a serious competition for WoW. Why? Because it does not appeal to the masses. It appeals to the Sandbox fans and to those who love high risk environments. People who enjoy hugely immersive gameplay with all the dangers of being killed at every corner.

Darkfall will certainly find its niche. If it releases as it is planned. It will be the fulfillment of the players who have been waiting for such a game. But it will not draw the people which WoW brought to MMO's in the first place, or at least, not many of them.

At the end of the day, it is about personal taste. And that's not something you can argue about. And as much as some people want to deny this, Sandboxstyle, Full PvP, Full Loot games are not the most beloved games of the community these days.

BTW  if you havent watched the video in high quality on youtube, or from the torrent file...you are missing out.

There is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the quality of graphics.  To be honest the graphics are pretty damn good considering the content and the length of development time.

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Originally posted by singsofdeath
 Yes, I have experienced the same games you have.
 
That doesn't change a thing. And no, Darkfall will not ever be a serious competition for WoW. Why? Because it does not appeal to the masses. It appeals to the Sandbox fans and to those who love high risk environments. People who enjoy hugely immersive gameplay with all the dangers of being killed at every corner.
 
Darkfall will certainly find its niche. If it releases as it is planned. It will be the fulfillment of the players who have been waiting for such a game. But it will not draw the people which WoW brought to MMO's in the first place, or at least, not many of them.
 
At the end of the day, it is about personal taste. And that's not something you can argue about. And as much as some people want to deny this, Sandboxstyle, Full PvP, Full Loot games are not the most beloved games of the community these days.

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I agree, and i dont think any DF fan is so stupid to think DF will be competing with WOW. Its a niche mmorpg, like EVE, for people who want a more "realistic" (if you know what i mean) environment, not quite as 'casual' and with more consequence.

if DF gets 150k subscribers like EVE it will be successful - but fantasy has always been more popular than sci-fi so i belive it will get more, hopefully beating the shit out of aoc and WAR.

Originally posted by KhaelSan

 

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Originally posted by singsofdeath
 Yes, I have experienced the same games you have.
 
That doesn't change a thing. And no, Darkfall will not ever be a serious competition for WoW. Why? Because it does not appeal to the masses. It appeals to the Sandbox fans and to those who love high risk environments. People who enjoy hugely immersive gameplay with all the dangers of being killed at every corner.
 
Darkfall will certainly find its niche. If it releases as it is planned. It will be the fulfillment of the players who have been waiting for such a game. But it will not draw the people which WoW brought to MMO's in the first place, or at least, not many of them.
 
At the end of the day, it is about personal taste. And that's not something you can argue about. And as much as some people want to deny this, Sandboxstyle, Full PvP, Full Loot games are not the most beloved games of the community these days.

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I agree, and i dont think any DF fan is so stupid to think DF will be competing with WOW. Its a niche mmorpg, like EVE, for people who want a more "realistic" (if you know what i mean) environment, not quite as 'casual' and with more consequence.

Well said and to the point. Darkfall is not for casual players. WoW is. Thank you, I didn't find that word in that moment.

Originally posted by KhaelSan

 

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Originally posted by singsofdeath
 Yes, I have experienced the same games you have.
 
That doesn't change a thing. And no, Darkfall will not ever be a serious competition for WoW. Why? Because it does not appeal to the masses. It appeals to the Sandbox fans and to those who love high risk environments. People who enjoy hugely immersive gameplay with all the dangers of being killed at every corner.
 
Darkfall will certainly find its niche. If it releases as it is planned. It will be the fulfillment of the players who have been waiting for such a game. But it will not draw the people which WoW brought to MMO's in the first place, or at least, not many of them.
 
At the end of the day, it is about personal taste. And that's not something you can argue about. And as much as some people want to deny this, Sandboxstyle, Full PvP, Full Loot games are not the most beloved games of the community these days.

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I agree, and i dont think any DF fan is so stupid to think DF will be competing with WOW. Its a niche mmorpg, like EVE, for people who want a more "realistic" (if you know what i mean) environment, not quite as 'casual' and with more consequence.

True, Darkfall will never compete with WoW on subs.

But i do believe the PvP hardcore community is very underestimated. On success i can see +500K subs on a game like Darkfall, or even more.

aoc got 500k subscribers in the first month, and now are probably down to 150k, because it didnt deliver.

My hope is DF will start off with like 100k and just keep growing. I can see it reaching 500k subs like argon says, maybe even earlier than i expect, depending on marketing, but if its a good game it will grow steadily because this niche hasnt been filled by any other game.

it all depends of marketing and quality of the game the first month.

I have to say I was impressed by the video. Some of the animations and such look a little dated, but good enough to be playable. Some of the running seemed odd, but it seems they'd slowed down the animation for dramatic effect in those scenes, as it looked better later.

Everything they showed looked pretty cool, I just wish they had shown some PvE as well. I would like to see what kind of uber baddies they have come up with.

In the meantime, I feel relieved that Darkfall may indeed exsist soon and that it could very well be a good game.

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Originally posted by originalegg
BTW  if you havent watched the video in high quality on youtube, or from the torrent file...you are missing out.
There is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the quality of graphics.  To be honest the graphics are pretty damn good considering the content and the length of development time.

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You don't realize it is not over yet, I personally still seeing this vaporware. The video was 100% staged any idiot can see that, very little game play at all, very little UI if you can even call what you seen bits and pieces of it. Literally a millisecond of crafting and anything else that would be tangible to call it a game.

If it is indeed a game we still have issues, how good will it be at launch? How bugged up will it be, well seeing how bad the animations were and that fire was burning in the sky hovered I'd say that is some problems already that can link to a mess of them.

A video with barely any game play isn't going to tell you anything at all. It was just a video to feed your "sexual" impulse over this game.

For 8yrs of work it doesn't look polished at all, one wonders.

Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by originalegg
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You don't realize it is not over yet, I personally still seeing this vaporware. The video was 100% staged any idiot can see that, very little game play at all, very little UI if you can even call what you seen bits and pieces of it. Literally a millisecond of crafting and anything else that would be tangible to call it a game.

If it is indeed a game we still have issues, how good will it be at launch? How bugged up will it be, well seeing how bad the animations were and that fire was burning in the sky hovered I'd say that is some problems already that can link to a mess of them.

A video with barely any game play isn't going to tell you anything at all. It was just a video to feed your "sexual" impulse over this game.

For 8yrs of work it doesn't look polished at all, one wonders.

"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all. Go back to your safe themepark game and leave the sandboxgames to those that can handle it.

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Originally posted by Xris375

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Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by originalegg
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You don't realize it is not over yet, I personally still seeing this vaporware. The video was 100% staged any idiot can see that, very little game play at all, very little UI if you can even call what you seen bits and pieces of it. Literally a millisecond of crafting and anything else that would be tangible to call it a game.
If it is indeed a game we still have issues, how good will it be at launch? How bugged up will it be, well seeing how bad the animations were and that fire was burning in the sky hovered I'd say that is some problems already that can link to a mess of them.
A video with barely any game play isn't going to tell you anything at all. It was just a video to feed your "sexual" impulse over this game.
For 8yrs of work it doesn't look polished at all, one wonders.

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"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all. Go back to your safe themepark game and leave the sandboxgames to those that can handle it.
 

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Nice a step up from the usual "Go back to WoW" +1 for creativity. Your response reads well for what the game community would be like. I'm going to be having a good laugh when this is not anything like you fanbois hype this up to be.

Honestly if they needed 8 years for that.. they still need 2 years to fix lots of animations, textures, details and all the bugged stuff flying around.

The graphics look really old to me and Im not talking only about the ships, the world all around looks pretty bad.

Some characters look decent though and some buildings but water, trees/grass/, ground need ALOT of work.

Also spells and effects still need work.

Dont know why they dont show the interface.. must be work in progress but for a small company like that all I can say they did ok.

I dont know what engine they using and how limited they are, and you dont need very good graphics at the expense of gameplay of course but still I see it far from release.

Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by Xris375

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Originally posted by HBlite

 

 
 

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Originally posted by originalegg
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You don't realize it is not over yet, I personally still seeing this vaporware. The video was 100% staged any idiot can see that, very little game play at all, very little UI if you can even call what you seen bits and pieces of it. Literally a millisecond of crafting and anything else that would be tangible to call it a game.
If it is indeed a game we still have issues, how good will it be at launch? How bugged up will it be, well seeing how bad the animations were and that fire was burning in the sky hovered I'd say that is some problems already that can link to a mess of them.
A video with barely any game play isn't going to tell you anything at all. It was just a video to feed your "sexual" impulse over this game.
For 8yrs of work it doesn't look polished at all, one wonders.

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"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all. Go back to your safe themepark game and leave the sandboxgames to those that can handle it.
 

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Nice a step up from the usual "Go back to WoW" +1 for creativity. Your response reads well for what the game community would be like. I'm going to be having a good laugh when this is not anything like you fanbois hype this up to be.
 

"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all.=)

  I suggest you go back to your own enviroment with hi polygon graphics and no gameplay worth the name. A game where you get spoonfed content of Devs and a endgame not worth the name.

Endgame in themepark games is as exiting as watching paint dry. =)

Have a nice one

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by HBlite

 

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Originally posted by Xris375

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Originally posted by HBlite

 

 
 

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Originally posted by originalegg
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You don't realize it is not over yet, I personally still seeing this vaporware. The video was 100% staged any idiot can see that, very little game play at all, very little UI if you can even call what you seen bits and pieces of it. Literally a millisecond of crafting and anything else that would be tangible to call it a game.
If it is indeed a game we still have issues, how good will it be at launch? How bugged up will it be, well seeing how bad the animations were and that fire was burning in the sky hovered I'd say that is some problems already that can link to a mess of them.
A video with barely any game play isn't going to tell you anything at all. It was just a video to feed your "sexual" impulse over this game.
For 8yrs of work it doesn't look polished at all, one wonders.

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"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all. Go back to your safe themepark game and leave the sandboxgames to those that can handle it.
 

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Nice a step up from the usual "Go back to WoW" +1 for creativity. Your response reads well for what the game community would be like. I'm going to be having a good laugh when this is not anything like you fanbois hype this up to be.
 

 

"Lord of the Rings Online Correspondent" says it all.=)

  I suggest you go back to your own enviroment with hi polygon graphics and no gameplay worth the name. A game where you get spoonfed content of Devs and a endgame not worth the name.

Endgame in themepark games is as exiting as watching paint dry. =)

Have a nice one

Ahhh sheesh. Really. Learn to control your elitism a bit or you will drive away potential new players, you know that? Your constant putting down of people who have played anything besides the games you consider to be "TRUE" Games, your constant gloating of how much better people are who play these kinds of games really gives a great look of how the community in this game will be like.

If the game doesn't kill itself, the community will, eh?