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SteamRanger
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Joined: 10/24/03
I don''t have to know how to make a better game, I only need to know where the "CANCEL" button is! |
8/27/08 2:22:43 PM#41
Originally posted by tuppe99
Here you go: www.direct2drive.com/6/6327/product/Buy-Warhammer-Online:-Age-of-Reckoning-(Pre-Order)-Download "Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II |
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8/27/08 2:24:46 PM#42
You can buy it off direct2drive.com or in store.
WAR has a lot lined up for Pve including raids, dungeons, Tome of Knowledge, etc.
Will be stuff for exploring, adventuring, grouping, soloing. Mythic is getting it right by focusing a lot on PvP because that allows for endless content mostly propagated by the player base; however, they are still putting a great deal of effort into PvE content so everyone can have a taste of the parts of gaming they like -- PVE content just takes a lot more development power and more time. From my testing I love the PvP and there's plenty of PVE to keep PVE-lovers greatly occupied with lore and content.
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Hazmal
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Joined: 1/30/08
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8/27/08 2:27:28 PM#43
Originally posted by Bruticus_XI That's because the optimal route is to do both PvE and PvP.
That is the point I was attempting to make. You should try and read the thread before commenting, doesn't take long. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
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8/27/08 2:35:52 PM#44
I haven't even considered buying this game because it's main focus is PvP, they can dangle all the phat lewt they can at me and I still woulden't play. A game thats being balanced for PvP makes for a very boring PvE game, class and combat wise. |
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8/27/08 2:45:24 PM#45
Originally posted by Hazmal
I'm sorry but anyone who is just picking up the game is not going to get to level 12 in 2-3 hours. Hell even walking from the start zone to the last PQ takes about half an hour. Besides, who would want to clear an entire tier in a couple hours? Sounds like a great way to burn yourself out.
Just because you can't doesn't mean other people can't.
I know you are but what am I? Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
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8/27/08 2:49:09 PM#46
Originally posted by paintchips your loss. the pve in this game is much more engaging than WoW's; you'll start to see that within the noobie area once you check out the PQ's and some of the more lore oriented quests. the pve is highly developed for a game that puts a lot of focus on pvp. All classes are highly oriented towards PvE and PvP content; mythic was able to strike a very strong balance between the two gameplay forms. if you think otherwise you clearly haven't done much research into the game. People who like pve and not pvp are mistaken in thinking WAR isnt offering enough pve content. the reason so much of the info out there is on pvp is because, first, pvp is in fact a big focus, and second, most people are more interested in covering the pvp issues than pve. however, don't confuse the WAR coverage of PvP and think that it means there's not a lot of PvE content. Do your research, try out the beta, and you'll see there is WAY more interesting pve content from your first steps into the game than there is in WoW's early levels or even Vanguard (at least in my view of playing VG to level 30ish). Of course you'll also see a lot more added to the end game content as the game develops over the following months post-release (as you do in all MMORPG's). |
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Hazmal
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Joined: 1/30/08
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8/27/08 3:02:20 PM#47
Originally posted by TsukieU
Yes, I am crazy because you didn't know what you were talking about. How eloquent. Maybe instead of working on ripping off pretentious and paranoid quips from hipster media, you could...forget it. I get enough warnings as it is. Back to work, back to work. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
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8/27/08 3:06:14 PM#48
Originally posted by Hazmal
Yes, I am crazy because you didn't know what you were talking about. How eloquent. Maybe instead of working on ripping off pretentious and paranoid quips from hipster media, you could...forget it. I get enough warnings as it is. Back to work, back to work.
Actually I was just mimicing what you were saying in a more childish manner. I thought it was a pretty clever juxtaposition myself. Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
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8/27/08 3:08:49 PM#49
Originally posted by rmk70 your loss. the pve in this game is much more engaging than WoW's; you'll start to see that within the noobie area once you check out the PQ's and some of the more lore oriented quests. the pve is highly developed for a game that puts a lot of focus on pvp. All classes are highly oriented towards PvE and PvP content; mythic was able to strike a very strong balance between the two gameplay forms. if you think otherwise you clearly haven't done much research into the game. People who like pve and not pvp are mistaken in thinking WAR isnt offering enough pve content. the reason so much of the info out there is on pvp is because, first, pvp is in fact a big focus, and second, most people are more interested in covering the pvp issues than pve. however, don't confuse the WAR coverage of PvP and think that it means there's not a lot of PvE content. Do your research, try out the beta, and you'll see there is WAY more interesting pve content from your first steps into the game than there is in WoW's early levels or even Vanguard (at least in my view of playing VG to level 30ish). Of course you'll also see a lot more added to the end game content as the game develops over the following months post-release (as you do in all MMORPG's).
It's not just content it's the classes, if you want to see how bad pve can get due to pvp balance look no further than AoC. PvE combat in that game felt right, fluid and most of all fun at the launch 3 month later and it's down right horrible, skills that worked well with pve ended up being over powered in pvp and in the end pve is suffering as a result or rebalancing. I guarantee you that when this game launches the nerfs will start and they will hit hard, afterall this game is aimed mostly at the PvPers it's inevitable that PvE class balance will suffer in favour of PvP balance. |
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Hazmal
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Joined: 1/30/08
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8/27/08 3:16:43 PM#50
Originally posted by paintchips Unless something has changed, which it very well could have, Mythic stated that the PvE content is what is changed to suit the player classes and their abilities. So as long as the classes are balanced against each other, in respect to their mirrored classes, the PvE content wouldn't be something to worry about. Helpful or did I miss your point? edited - too much quoting. ------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
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8/27/08 3:24:50 PM#51
Originally posted by zmortis
QFT WAR doesn't have bad PvE. In fact it has a few really neat new things. Namely PQ's. But PvE players will be extremely disapointed. There just isn't a strong replayabilty factor in WAR's PvE. Do it once and never want to see it again. What it coems down to is this. WAR's PVE is decent, even fun for a few days or weeks. But it is a far cry from the shear size and magnitude of WoW's or EQ2's. PVE oriented players used to that experience will be very disapointed with WAR, unless they quickly develop a taste for RvR. |
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Hazmal
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8/27/08 3:33:24 PM#52
Originally posted by TsukieU
Actually I was just mimicing what you were saying in a more childish manner. I thought it was a pretty clever juxtaposition myself. When will people learn...dictionary.com doesn't mean you'll understand how to use the word in a sentence...much less as a literary device. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
------------------ well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you? |
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8/27/08 3:38:15 PM#53
Originally posted by jwshaw88
PvE is the dark side. PvE is bad, I had some minor doubts about it till I heard people were killing Hero mobs solo by circle strafing them to avoid all their hits. F- programming there. |
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Originally posted by Sentime
IT'S CALLED BETA, the pathing was bug, how do you know this wont be addressed in the final build? please stop! |
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8/27/08 3:52:15 PM#55
Originally posted by Hazmal
Actually I was just mimicing what you were saying in a more childish manner. I thought it was a pretty clever juxtaposition myself. When will people learn...dictionary.com doesn't mean you'll understand how to use the word in a sentence...much less as a literary device. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
Then do tell, please enlighten me what word I used incorrectly, and how I could better use it next time? Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse. |
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8/27/08 3:54:24 PM#56
Originally posted by Hazmal Unless something has changed, which it very well could have, Mythic stated that the PvE content is what is changed to suit the player classes and their abilities. So as long as the classes are balanced against each other, in respect to their mirrored classes, the PvE content wouldn't be something to worry about. Helpful or did I miss your point? edited - too much quoting.
If thats the case i'll certainly keep my eyes on the game after it's launched, but I'm unsure. To often devs say one thing end up doing the complete opposite or whats easiest. |
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8/27/08 6:50:09 PM#57
To Paintchips: I will say this, if EQ2, Vanguard, or (even better yet) Lord of the Rings Online is more your speed, then you will be better served by their PvE content than the PvE content in WAR. While I enjoyed the PvE elements of those games, they were all 3 missing the PvP enjoyment I received from playing in other games. I do think that WAR provides a good mix of the two play types, but have no doubt the key focus is and will continue to be RvR. It's Mythic's claim to fame as a MMORPG developer, and they are not going to change their favored formula for success just to appease the hardcore PvE players. I think your best bet is to hold off on trying WAR until someone you personally know and trust gives you their impression of whether the game's content will satisfy your PvE playing needs. Personally, I think that having players in the game that know what they are getting into and enjoy it is better than having a mass crush of people for who the play style doesn't suit their desires. You know what you like, many people are telling you that WAR is not something you will likely enjoy. I'd rather not sell it to you as something you should play if I think you will not enjoy it. I know that I will enjoy it, and I know why I will enjoy it. Even though I enjoy PvE games, that is not why I or the majority of players will be playing WAR. If you'd like an informal poll try the following:
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