Every time you speak in a War thread Protus, I'm going to picture you talking about AoC instead with what you say.  You know why? Because your War bashing is EXACTLY what is wrong with Funcom and Age of Conan!

Originally posted by Protus-AOC

It really surprises me how tolerant you all are with mythic even though all this seems very shady to me. Seems like they are hiding way to much from people unless you pay upfront first.

Yes... So secretive that we just completed a free Preview weekend in which a great number of people got in and are allowed to discuss their experiences.

What you're trying to pull here is extremely obvious, Protus... Unfortunately, this isn't AoC, it's not FC behind it, and so... it just doesn't fly.

Please, stop with the black helicopter / tin-foil hat conspiracy stuff..

What they're doing is nothing at all new in the MMO genre... It's not just Mythic... *most* companies do this.

Originally posted by thekid1

Rose online
Face of mankind
Planetside
Pirates of the burning sea

And lots betas where beta codes are being handed out by mmorpg.com or other sites. No need for a pre-order or paying Fileplanet subscription.

Pretty bad call for a gamesjournalist.

 

Name one of those games that had the same amount of players following it as WAR does. 

Smaller games can offer a beta for everyone.  Large hyped games cannot offer that kind of server space for a large influx of people.

    World of Warcraft was Open beta, with no preorder required, so was EQ2, and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game.,

   this all took place a little more then 4 years ago.

Originally posted by Reeper

    World of Warcraft was Open beta, with no preorder required, so was EQ2, and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game.,

   this all took place a little more then 4 years ago.

Right... you don't have to pre-order to get into Open Beta... but you aren't guaranteed a spot, either.

I've gotten into OBs both through pre-orders (offered obviously as an incentive)., I've gotten into OBs via contests or being lucky to snag one of a limited number of keys being offered (several right through this site), and didn't pay a single red cent.

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

Originally posted by Reeper

    and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game

false.

They've already stated that it would not be a true open beta a loooooong time ago.  If it sounds shady, it sounds shady.  I had a lot of fun in closed beta and preview weekend.  Of course there are some bugs that need to be fixed, but RvR worked perfect for me.  It was also the most fun I've had in a while. 

As of right now I am happy with my preorder, and I've gotten a bunch of my friends to preorder as well.  If this game fails I will be really surprized.  I highly doubt it will. but only time will tell.  For now, though, it looks like the game many PvPers have been waiting for.

Originally posted by thekid1

Originally posted by Lonesamurai1

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Lonesamurai1

Originally posted by dmh3500

Hey guys im a little confused.. im pretty sure that open beta (atleast for all other games) meant that the game was in an open phase of beta, allowing the public to download and play the game for free, however for WAR... the only way to get into open beta is to pre-order the game... how does that make sense?? does anybody know whether or not a true open beta will take place or a pre-ordered close one

 

I've never, in all my years as a gamer or a gamesjournalist have I seen a free Open Beta for a game

 

 

Lineage 2...only one i can think of. And that open beta merged with the release...as in..they didnt whipe the open beta characters.

 

Fair point, forgot about that one

Rose online
Face of mankind
Planetside
Pirates of the burning sea

And lots betas where beta codes are being handed out by mmorpg.com or other sites. No need for a pre-order or paying Fileplanet subscription.

Pretty bad call for a gamesjournalist.

 

He is a games Journalist with good taste, nuff said. I wouldn't even call them games you mentioned they all failed miserably.

Originally posted by Reeper

    World of Warcraft was Open beta, with no preorder required, so was EQ2, and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game.,

   this all took place a little more then 4 years ago.

that is a flat out LIE.  I played in Beta for WoW and was there at launch day you did not get to keep your characters.   Only Lord of the Rings Online has ever allowed this and it was extremely limited on what was eligible as well.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

 

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

 

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

stop bitching and go to fileplanet if you don't want to pre order.  They've only said that it wiould not be a free for all everyone with an internect connection open beta. 

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Reeper

    World of Warcraft was Open beta, with no preorder required, so was EQ2, and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game.,

   this all took place a little more then 4 years ago.

 

that is a flat out LIE.  I played in Beta for WoW and was there at launch day you did not get to keep your characters.   Only Lord of the Rings Online has ever allowed this and it was extremely limited on what was eligible as well.

Shhhhhhh..... let him look like a fool, that is some funny a$$ shat right there.  I never seen anyone more wrong in all my life.

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

 

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

 

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

 

stop bitching and go to fileplanet if you don't want to pre order.  They've only said that it wiould not be a free for all everyone with an internect connection open beta. 

Wow. Simply, wow. Would you mind telling me where I -bitch- about anything in my post?

All I said was that this kind of practice has -not- been standard for ages as was claimed by several other people in this thread. Kindly explain to me how that is -bitching- about something?

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

 

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

 

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

 

stop bitching and go to fileplanet if you don't want to pre order.  They've only said that it wiould not be a free for all everyone with an internect connection open beta. 

Wow. Simply, wow. Would you mind telling me where I -bitch- about anything in my post?

 

All I said was that this kind of practice has -not- been standard for ages as was claimed by several other people in this thread. Kindly explain to me how that is -bitching- about something?

Sorry there chief, but Fileplanet has been giving out beta's since Ultima Online with subscription fees as the underlying hook.  It's not mythic you should be hating on it's Fileplanet. Mythic simply sold or gave  them some Beta keys to disperse however they see fit. Yes Fileplanet is shady and always will be.  They like to make money off us.

Originally posted by PinkCat

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

 

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

 

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

 

stop bitching and go to fileplanet if you don't want to pre order.  They've only said that it wiould not be a free for all everyone with an internect connection open beta. 

Wow. Simply, wow. Would you mind telling me where I -bitch- about anything in my post?

 

All I said was that this kind of practice has -not- been standard for ages as was claimed by several other people in this thread. Kindly explain to me how that is -bitching- about something?

Sorry there chief, but Fileplanet has been giving out beta's since Ultima Online with subscription fees as the underlying hook.  It's not mythic you should be hating on it's Fileplanet. Mythic simply sold or gave  them some Beta keys to disperse however they see fit. Yes Fileplanet is shady and always will be.  They like to make money off us.

The hell? Is no one reading what I am saying? o.O

I do not hate Mythic. I do not hate WAR. I do not even hate Fileplanet so much as some of you people apparently do.

All I am saying is that 10 years ago, I was playing beta's without getting pre-orders or subscribing to File-Planet. It's -NOT- the standard. It may have happened, yes, but it's not like it's been the standard of the genre forever. *sigh*

Stop putting hatred into my words.

Originally posted by Protus-AOC

It really surprises me how tolerant you all are with mythic even though all this seems very shady to me. Seems like they are hiding way to much from people unless you pay upfront first.

You got some nerve saying that Protus when your game demands three dollars for the 3-day-long download "free" trial.

Do Not Feed The s

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by PinkCat

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I don#t want to bash Mythic, but this nonesensical talk of Open beta's having not been "Free" forever is just amusing me.

 

Mythic did the "OPEN" Beta with their old game by the way, just to toss another one in there. DAoC you could get into Open Beta quite freely without having to preorder or anything of the like.

 

This practice has become chic with the growing popularity of the genre. Because now, companies can afford to do it. I'm not saying Mythic is a bad company because of this. I'm just saying it as it is. Please do not try to make it appear as though this has been normal for a long time, because it hasn't.

 

stop bitching and go to fileplanet if you don't want to pre order.  They've only said that it wiould not be a free for all everyone with an internect connection open beta. 

Wow. Simply, wow. Would you mind telling me where I -bitch- about anything in my post?

 

All I said was that this kind of practice has -not- been standard for ages as was claimed by several other people in this thread. Kindly explain to me how that is -bitching- about something?

Sorry there chief, but Fileplanet has been giving out beta's since Ultima Online with subscription fees as the underlying hook.  It's not mythic you should be hating on it's Fileplanet. Mythic simply sold or gave  them some Beta keys to disperse however they see fit. Yes Fileplanet is shady and always will be.  They like to make money off us.

The hell? Is no one reading what I am saying? o.O

 

I do not hate Mythic. I do not hate WAR. I do not even hate Fileplanet so much as some of you people apparently do.

 

All I am saying is that 10 years ago, I was playing beta's without getting pre-orders or subscribing to File-Planet. It's -NOT- the standard. It may have happened, yes, but it's not like it's been the standard of the genre forever. *sigh*

 

Stop putting hatred into my words.

It's been the standard since the start, yes even "MORE" than 10 years ago.  Sure you can get lucky by signing up to the offical sites of the game providers, but some people like the 100% opt in instead of the random picking.  I still fail to see what your point is, both have existed this way since the begining.

MMORPG does it right.  Everytime they are given Beta keys they give them out for free unlike some of the other larger sites that are more money driven.

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Originally posted by Protus-AOC
It really surprises me how tolerant you all are with mythic even though all this seems very shady to me. Seems like they are hiding way to much from people unless you pay upfront first.

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I'm not a WAR fanboy.. probably won't even play it.

That said.. Mythic is one of THE MOST reputable companies in the genre. Nothing shady here at all.

Originally posted by banthis

Originally posted by Reeper

    World of Warcraft was Open beta, with no preorder required, so was EQ2, and WoW even let you carry over your Beta Character to the retail game.,

   this all took place a little more then 4 years ago.

 

that is a flat out LIE.  I played in Beta for WoW and was there at launch day you did not get to keep your characters.   Only Lord of the Rings Online has ever allowed this and it was extremely limited on what was eligible as well.

Lineage 2 did it as well, but I agree. WoW did not do this.