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This is an interesting story..

Missing:  Viral email lies about McCain

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hmm .. odd that snopes has about 10 or so whe i went there but thats counting unconfirmed ( for both)...

I have been a liberal democrat since I became old enough to vote, but it just recently that I am becoming aware of how truely pathetic the GOP and McCain's camp have been in how they are running this election in particular. I was listening to the Obama/Biden Speeches yesterday on the way home from work and immediately after they finished speaking one of the reporters made mention that a McCain spokesman had pointed out with glee that Obama had mistakenly introduced Biden as "President" before correcting himself. Seriously? These people are like 2 year-olds. Some quotes are fair to use against a candidate(Like McCain's failure to remember all his homes or even Michelle's quote in saying for the first time she is proud of her country) even if they are innocent mistakes or non-issues, but I keep hearing a lot of " Nah nahhh nah nah nahhhh nahs" coming from the McCain camp.

In fact, they are spitting out so many smears and lies that the people they are targeting are getting the lies mixed up. I was at work the other day, a customer service call-center in Oklahoma, and the TVs in the call center flashed on a MSNBC promo about Obama and his (then) upcoming VP-Pick. The guy next to me turned to a girl he had been talking to and said "You know Obama refuses to say the pledge of allegiance?" When she asked him 'Why?", he replied "Because he says it is unconstitutional or someting". She then said, "I have nothing against him personally, but he was a Buddhist and became a Catholic over-night", "I mean, who does that?".

It was such an ignorant conversation I had to write it down. I didn't try to correct them because they didn't strike me as people who vote, but it is a very good example of the only tiny bit of conversation I heard in Oklahoma in the months leading up to the 04 election and now the 08 election.

obama and mccain are both liars. obama is the bigger one, though.

yep.

Originally posted by Laserwolf

I have been a liberal democrat since I became old enough to vote, but it just recently that I am becoming aware of how truely pathetic the GOP and McCain's camp have been in how they are running this election in particular. I was listening to the Obama/Biden Speeches yesterday on the way home from work and immediately after they finished speaking one of the reporters made mention that a McCain spokesman had pointed out with glee that Obama had mistakenly introduced Biden as "President" before correcting himself. Seriously? These people are like 2 year-olds. Some quotes are fair to use against a candidate(Like McCain's failure to remember all his homes or even Michelle's quote in saying for the first time she is proud of her country) even if they are innocent mistakes or non-issues, but I keep hearing a lot of " Nah nahhh nah nah nahhhh nahs" coming from the McCain camp.

In fact, they are spitting out so many smears and lies that the people they are targeting are getting the lies mixed up. I was at work the other day, a customer service call-center in Oklahoma, and the TVs in the call center flashed on a MSNBC promo about Obama and his (then) upcoming VP-Pick. The guy next to me turned to a girl he had been talking to and said "You know Obama refuses to say the pledge of allegiance?" When she asked him 'Why?", he replied "Because he says it is unconstitutional or someting". She then said, "I have nothing against him personally, but he was a Buddhist and became a Catholic over-night", "I mean, who does that?".

It was such an ignorant conversation I had to write it down. I didn't try to correct them because they didn't strike me as people who vote, but it is a very good example of the only tiny bit of conversation I heard in Oklahoma in the months leading up to the 04 election and now the 08 election.

Haha, have you seen his most recent ad? It's basically attacking OBAMA for going negative! Oh how ridiculous indeed.

Originally posted by Nierro

This is an interesting story..

Missing:  Viral email lies about McCain

I launched my website to combat lie pies (false viral emails) in mid-July.  Well, honey, it's almost September and I have yet to come across a single lie pie about John McCain.

At first I thought I must be doing something wrong.  Why on earth was I receiving so many lie pies about Barack Obama and none about John McCain?  Well, apparently the problem ain't just on my end.  I've been keeping an eye on John McCain's "Truth Squad" website, which he launched on June 30 in order "to set the record straight against Internet smears of John McCain's service."  Well, nearly two months later, no internet smears of John McCain's service have been posted.  The site hasn't changed since the day it was launched.  If McCain's Truth Squad gets paid a piece rate, it appears they'll all starve to death waiting for their chance to "set the record straight."    

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If you need more convincing that the lie pies this season are a little unevenly distributed against Barack Obama, go visit Snopes.com's "Hottest 25" and TruthOrFiction.com's top 20 stories.  As of this hour, Barack Obama weighs in at number one on Snopes, with a list of lies so long you have to scroll down the page to view all of them.  John McCain is #11 on Snopes, but of the 5 items listed, only 3 contain claims that are critical of McCain.  Only one lie listed appears to be a viral email, while the others are just questions folks emailed in to Snopes.  Similarly, there are no items critical of McCain listed in the "top 20 stories" on TruthOrFiction.com, and 7 items critical of Obama.

If there is any doubt remaining in your mind about who is being lied about most often in viral emails, check out Obama's "Fight the Smears" website.  Those folks do appear to have their hands full!

In addition to all the lie pies on Obama that have been donated to our Lie Piebrary, I've also received viral jokes, viral videos, viral links to blogs, and viral newsletters all lying about Obama or demeaning him in some way.  Again, none about McCain.  

Now, I fully intend to forcefully defend McCain on my website when I run across a lie pie about him.  It's not my mission to take sides in this election, and I will do my best to give both candidates a fair shake.  But based on what I'm seeing, it's time for Republicans to take a good long look in the mirror.  

If you believe in democracy, if you have faith in the good sense of the American people, and if you believe your candidate can win on his own merit, you don't lie at election time.  I've said it before and I'll say it again:  every American's vote at election time has been paid for in blood.  Some things are sacred, and our American elections top that list.  These sleazy vote swindlers betray all the patriots who've given their lives for our democracy when they cheat folks out of their votes at election time.  None of us should put up with it, not even those whose candidate might benefit from it.  It is a disgrace to remain silent in the face of lies that poison our democracy.

I love our country.  So do you.  Let's all behave accordingly.  I'm not willing to surrender our elections to contemptible charlatans who sell out our democracy in exchange for lucrative jobs as political operatives.

OMG i knew you could do it!!

An intelligent thought with no swearing!!!

WAY TO GO!!!

Originally posted by Opticaleye

Originally posted by Nierro

This is an interesting story..

Missing:  Viral email lies about McCain

I launched my website to combat lie pies (false viral emails) in mid-July.  Well, honey, it's almost September and I have yet to come across a single lie pie about John McCain.

At first I thought I must be doing something wrong.  Why on earth was I receiving so many lie pies about Barack Obama and none about John McCain?  Well, apparently the problem ain't just on my end.  I've been keeping an eye on John McCain's "Truth Squad" website, which he launched on June 30 in order "to set the record straight against Internet smears of John McCain's service."  Well, nearly two months later, no internet smears of John McCain's service have been posted.  The site hasn't changed since the day it was launched.  If McCain's Truth Squad gets paid a piece rate, it appears they'll all starve to death waiting for their chance to "set the record straight."    

• lie pie granny's diary :: ::
•  

If you need more convincing that the lie pies this season are a little unevenly distributed against Barack Obama, go visit Snopes.com's "Hottest 25" and TruthOrFiction.com's top 20 stories.  As of this hour, Barack Obama weighs in at number one on Snopes, with a list of lies so long you have to scroll down the page to view all of them.  John McCain is #11 on Snopes, but of the 5 items listed, only 3 contain claims that are critical of McCain.  Only one lie listed appears to be a viral email, while the others are just questions folks emailed in to Snopes.  Similarly, there are no items critical of McCain listed in the "top 20 stories" on TruthOrFiction.com, and 7 items critical of Obama.

If there is any doubt remaining in your mind about who is being lied about most often in viral emails, check out Obama's "Fight the Smears" website.  Those folks do appear to have their hands full!

In addition to all the lie pies on Obama that have been donated to our Lie Piebrary, I've also received viral jokes, viral videos, viral links to blogs, and viral newsletters all lying about Obama or demeaning him in some way.  Again, none about McCain.  

Now, I fully intend to forcefully defend McCain on my website when I run across a lie pie about him.  It's not my mission to take sides in this election, and I will do my best to give both candidates a fair shake.  But based on what I'm seeing, it's time for Republicans to take a good long look in the mirror.  

If you believe in democracy, if you have faith in the good sense of the American people, and if you believe your candidate can win on his own merit, you don't lie at election time.  I've said it before and I'll say it again:  every American's vote at election time has been paid for in blood.  Some things are sacred, and our American elections top that list.  These sleazy vote swindlers betray all the patriots who've given their lives for our democracy when they cheat folks out of their votes at election time.  None of us should put up with it, not even those whose candidate might benefit from it.  It is a disgrace to remain silent in the face of lies that poison our democracy.

I love our country.  So do you.  Let's all behave accordingly.  I'm not willing to surrender our elections to contemptible charlatans who sell out our democracy in exchange for lucrative jobs as political operatives.

 

OMG i knew you could do it!!

An intelligent thought with no swearing!!!

WAY TO GO!!!

If you're so anti-swearing then why is the word "fucking" in your quote.