Originally posted by PapaLazarou

Just seen the new trailer and it looks horrible, what i don't udnerstand is how they've managed to make EQ2 look even uglier over the years and tried to give it this new art style which just doesn't work. They still havn't fixed the ugly plastic looking models and the textures look really dated.

This picture on mmorpg.com sums up EQ2 for me;

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/screenshots/122007/12666.jpg

Really generic and dated looking, I mean they could make grass look ALOT better and get rid of the fog and put some effort into designing trees and zones themselves. Alot of the time it feels like they got some pre generated crap and stuck it anywhere and let the land barren and uninteresting. SOE even manages to make a Rhino mount really ugly and boring too and the armour in EQ2 is some of the ugliest shite I've ever laid eyes on and the graphics are sooo bad they're only beaten by Vanguard which somehow manages to look even worse.

Really speaks for SOE too because they've never had a game that's looked good with lots of character and great art. Their concept art isn't so bad but for some reason SOE have never been able to bring the concept art to the game.

.... uglier?.... wth? The new areas of the game are much better looking than the old. RoK is probably the most beautiful of all expansions and of all other games out there that I've played, and I've played alot.

I think you're trolling. If you dislike the game so much, please go elsewhere. We're sick of hearing about it.

Originally posted by PapaLazarou

Just seen the new trailer and it looks horrible, what i don't udnerstand is how they've managed to make EQ2 look even uglier over the years and tried to give it this new art style which just doesn't work. They still havn't fixed the ugly plastic looking models and the textures look really dated.

This picture on mmorpg.com sums up EQ2 for me;

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/screenshots/122007/12666.jpg

Really generic and dated looking, I mean they could make grass look ALOT better and get rid of the fog and put some effort into designing trees and zones themselves. Alot of the time it feels like they got some pre generated crap and stuck it anywhere and let the land barren and uninteresting. SOE even manages to make a Rhino mount really ugly and boring too and the armour in EQ2 is some of the ugliest shite I've ever laid eyes on and the graphics are sooo bad they're only beaten by Vanguard which somehow manages to look even worse.

Really speaks for SOE too because they've never had a game that's looked good with lots of character and great art. Their concept art isn't so bad but for some reason SOE have never been able to bring the concept art to the game.

The SOGA model characters (new models) do match the character art. Its just some players somehow enjoy the plastic face look and feel the need to upload pics using the old models. Even Sony continues to shoot itself in the foot by releasing pictures of the ugly old models for expansions and updates. Its only one mouse click away to make the characters attractive. The world of EQ2 is far more colourful and interesting than most other games (including WoW, LOTRO and AoC). I will probably go back after the expansion to check out whats happened with Befallen and Najena. Currently playing Vanguard and it has come along in leaps and bounds since I tried it in Beta.

I think the graphics look great. EQ2 is a ton of fun to play and SoE is constantly dishing out expansions and adventure packs to keep the momentom alive. Some of the other games out there take 2 years + just to toss out another expansion so I give SoE credit. I only wish they would maybe try to add some new races or even classes to the game. Always would like to see a Samauri type class in some of these MMO's hehe or bring the old Beast Lords back

Oh look, ANOTHER expansion... Theres a surprise...

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by PapaLazarou

Just seen the new trailer and it looks horrible, what i don't udnerstand is how they've managed to make EQ2 look even uglier over the years and tried to give it this new art style which just doesn't work. They still havn't fixed the ugly plastic looking models and the textures look really dated.

This picture on mmorpg.com sums up EQ2 for me;

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/screenshots/122007/12666.jpg

Really generic and dated looking, I mean they could make grass look ALOT better and get rid of the fog and put some effort into designing trees and zones themselves. Alot of the time it feels like they got some pre generated crap and stuck it anywhere and let the land barren and uninteresting. SOE even manages to make a Rhino mount really ugly and boring too and the armour in EQ2 is some of the ugliest shite I've ever laid eyes on and the graphics are sooo bad they're only beaten by Vanguard which somehow manages to look even worse.

Really speaks for SOE too because they've never had a game that's looked good with lots of character and great art. Their concept art isn't so bad but for some reason SOE have never been able to bring the concept art to the game.

 

The SOGA model characters (new models) do match the character art. Its just some players somehow enjoy the plastic face look and feel the need to upload pics using the old models. Even Sony continues to shoot itself in the foot by releasing pictures of the ugly old models for expansions and updates. Its only one mouse click away to make the characters attractive. The world of EQ2 is far more colourful and interesting than most other games (including WoW, LOTRO and AoC). I will probably go back after the expansion to check out whats happened with Befallen and Najena. Currently playing Vanguard and it has come along in leaps and bounds since I tried it in Beta.

I'm one of "the people" that hates the SOGA models with all my heart .. The old models are awsome imo.

EQ2 seems to be mainly adult oriented wich is one of many reasons Iove the game. No kiddos running around all over the place :P . It's also HUUUUUUUGE . I dare you to name me a MMO with more content than EQ2 ..

Yours ..

 "I dare you to name me a MMO with more content than EQ2"

In terms of dungeons - Everquest 1.

In terms of quests - WoW by far

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 "I dare you to name me a MMO with more content than EQ2"

 

In terms of dungeons - Everquest 1.

In terms of quests - WoW by far

If i can find the link ill post it but someone already did the numbers and EQ2 does have more quest then WoW.

Originally posted by Nocuma

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 "I dare you to name me a MMO with more content than EQ2"

 

In terms of dungeons - Everquest 1.

In terms of quests - WoW by far

If i can find the link ill post it but someone already did the numbers and EQ2 does have more quest then WoW.

WoW has 6500 quests atm and WoTLK will bring 1500 more. Check http://www.wowhead.com/?quests

EQ2 has 5000 quests and few hundreds will arrive with TSO. Check http://eq2.allakhazam.com/

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 

WoW has 6500 quests atm and WoTLK will bring 1500 more. Check http://www.wowhead.com/?quests

EQ2 has 5000 quests and few hundreds will arrive with TSO. Check http://eq2.allakhazam.com/

 

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not a WoW player) but aren't WoW quests all individually named, whereas EQ2 quests are often multi-stage but under the same title?

If that's the case, then these numbers mean little.

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 

WoW has 6500 quests atm and WoTLK will bring 1500 more. Check http://www.wowhead.com/?quests

EQ2 has 5000 quests and few hundreds will arrive with TSO. Check http://eq2.allakhazam.com/

 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not a WoW player) but aren't WoW quests all individually named, whereas EQ2 quests are often multi-stage but under the same title?

If that's the case, then these numbers mean little.

Both allakhazam and wowhead count each part of quest chains as individual quests.

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 

Both allakhazam and wowhead count each part of quest chains as individual quests.

Again, I'll state that I cannot comment on WoW, but that certainly isn't the case for EQ2 on allakhazam.

For example, this one.

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by Nocuma

Originally posted by mindw0rk

 "I dare you to name me a MMO with more content than EQ2"

 

In terms of dungeons - Everquest 1.

In terms of quests - WoW by far

If i can find the link ill post it but someone already did the numbers and EQ2 does have more quest then WoW.

 

WoW has 6500 quests atm and WoTLK will bring 1500 more. Check http://www.wowhead.com/?quests

EQ2 has 5000 quests and few hundreds will arrive with TSO. Check http://eq2.allakhazam.com/

 

If you sort by quest name there is a lot of quest's that are posted more then once...unless that link is taking me somewhere diff from where you are going.

If you go by this web site it shows EQ2 with over 5800 http://eq2.fluffy.dk/

Also if you go here is shows WoW with 6186, but once again if you go to page 83 and do a sort by quest name there is a lot of dubs in there. You will also find the same quest on page 83 being displayed on page 82. http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/questlist.html?&start=6150

So who knows what the real number is....

but to be honest.. i dont know anyone who has done every last quest in EQ2 or WoW (but then again i dont know that many ppl in either game.)