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SwampRob 8/18/08 4:59:04 PM
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Please do not take this as a flame or bash post, as I'm sure many will enjoy this game. But even though I am an avid gamer, I've yet to hear anything about this MMO that makes me want to play it. First off, it obviously has a heavy pvp focus. Pvp has never interested me; in fact I've never partaken of it in any of the mmo's I've played, including a few years of Wow. So, all this talk of RvR is empty to me. More importantly, it seems (from what I've read on the game), that this mmo is chock full of forced grouping. Arrrgh! Those two words always cause me ire in any game. Here is an excerpt from the latest PCGamer: "Each wind of a dungeon has a boss at the end, and at the final stage of a dungeon, you'll encounter the six-man end boss. In Mount Gunbad, this is a giant squig; he happens to have a Morcane artifact nearby that powers him up. That Morcane artifact also provides you with the boss battle's main challenge: if you let the squig stay too close to it he'll become empowered to erupt projectile vomit and other equally lovely substances, but keep him away too long and he becomes enraged, upping his damage-dealing level." Now, this sounds to me an awful lot like any typical boss-fight from almost any popular MMO. The boss has abilities x and y, and the party must act in a predetermined and pretested strategy to receive the same successful result. Worse, the party is required to slog through a goodly amount of trash mobs just to be able to get to this boss. This does not sound to me like anything innovative. This sounds exactly like every other fantasy MMO. It's safe to assume that the party will require a healer, and a tank, and several dpsers. I'm sorry, but yaaawn. I've never met anyone who enjoyed clearing trash. And you can be sure that, once again, the forming group will have to wait for one key class to join before they can proceed. I am so sick to death of MMOs forcing players to group, forcing them to socialize just to experience the content. Every player, regardless of their playstyle, should be able to experience ALL the content of a game, with the game adjusting to accomodate the player, and not the other way around. So again, I reiterate, I am not saying that WAR online will be a bad game. But personally, I wouldn't play it even if it were F2P. Doubtless I'll get bashed for this, but I felt that the blind love gone rampant for this game in most threads needed a warning for the playstyle of some.
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GreenChaos 8/18/08 5:05:53 PM
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Joined: 10/21/06 |
You don't like grouping. You don't like pvp. You don't like boss fights.
ummm. Single players games that way ----------->
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tuzalov 8/18/08 5:09:25 PM
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Joined: 7/11/07
"Our birth is nothing but our death begun." |
lol no duh wtf you even looking at mmorgs. If your not even gonna play it and make an actuall informed decision lol wow I cant believe people actually think this way. "It sounds like I may not like this game so i wont even try it" |
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Cotillion99 8/18/08 5:09:54 PM
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Joined: 12/14/07 |
You are in the wrong genre of games. If you want to be able to do everything by yourself... get a game made to be played by yourself. I'm not saying there isn't a lot of stuff you can do by yourself should you not be feeling particularly sociable, but seriously if you don't ever want to group whats the point of playing a game like this? |
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banthis 8/18/08 5:10:13 PM
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Joined: 3/19/07 |
I don't know of any MMO thats 100 percent soloable...the whole point is its an MMO...and an RPG...and in RPG's you group. WAR's grouping is unlike anything I've experienced before its definitly NOT forced except in the most commonly necessary places like a Dungeons' End boss or PvP. Infact you dont even have to GROUP to participate in PQ's the goal is the same for everyone therefore everyone naturally just works together or atleast towards a common goal. Its dungeon system while parts of it are 'familiar' in style it still offers an experience thats not been done before atleast not in recent times. The dungeon is not full of 'trash mobs' its full of 'public quest' mobs which you get loot & boss fights from as well. To be honest I've never heard of a dungeon thats just a cave with a boss in it...not even pen and paper games offer that. Anyone that wants to be uber god and kill a huge boss by themselves is looking in the wrong genre. Its one thing to enjoy solo content in an MMO and group with necessary (which WAR has alot of) its another thing when you want to solo everything including the bosses. If you want a fully soloable pve game Neverwinter Nights, Morrowwind, Fallout 3 are perfect for you. |
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natevoni 8/18/08 5:10:56 PM
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Joined: 11/13/07
Soldier "Sir! Were surrounded!" Captain "Yup, they''re not getting away this time." |
Originally posted by SwampRob
...Seriously?! "Every person on Earth should be rich and able to experience everything they ever wanted, they shouldn't have to work for it" This is how you sound to me. Maybe not what you intended, but step back and listen to what you just said. Lets also factor in the idea that were playing a "MULTIPLAYER GAME", if you don't like these games, then why are you in here? |
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miagisan 8/18/08 5:11:01 PM
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Joined: 7/28/06 |
Originally posted by GreenChaos you win the internetz ! |
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seryth 8/18/08 5:11:29 PM
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Joined: 10/24/05
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Originally posted by GreenChaos
WOW! Quite the reply there. OP said he didn't "FORCED" grouping. And he didn't like the almost scripted nature of boss fights in most MMOs, where you have to do things a predetermined way to win. While I agree with some of the things the OP said, I will be waiting for this game with much anticipation. Don't flame him for posting his opinion...this is after all a public forum. |
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Silverthorn8 8/18/08 5:15:04 PM
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Joined: 6/07/08 |
I'm sure we'll get a clear picture of what is hot and what is not tomorrow and during the next week or so (nda lift hoorah!). The trash mobs you mention will likely only be a slog at off peak server hours since there will likely be several groups clearing towards the instanced boss section. (Although it does depend on mob respawn times ofc). Yes the game is slanted towards player vs player stuff, although that barely scratches the surface of what it is all about (don't say pvp in this forum you will get flamed, it's realm v realm, if you don't read more on what that is then it is indeed your loss). From what most people have intimated, the game switches from 75% pve to rvr stuff at early levels and drops to 25% pve at end game. I doubt anyone will get to end game without being involved in rvr fights of one sort or another, even the most hardened carebear! Suggest if you don't like pvp (rvr), maybe play lotr, vanguard or eq2. |
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Cotillion99 8/18/08 5:15:29 PM
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