Its real simple, Funcom fucked up. Everybody who is playing or has played aoc knows this.

My issue is if the community continues bashing and hating on this game it has no chance of ever getting better.  I’m not saying funcom releasing an unfinished game is right. I’m not saying that there customer services is great lol because we all know it’s horrible.. but people posting hate topics and insult topics over and over when the game is three months old is pointless. Unless there goal is to fuck over funcom ever more and fuck over the people who like playing the game.. Then you are all doing a wonderful job.

I would love to know where all these people are when ea puts out another shit title like they do every year with their nascar, nba, ncaa, madden games and when they hype a game and release is full of bugs!

 I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players.

Again I’m not saying what funcom did was right by any means. They released a buggy, crash whore of a game but instead of post nothing but hate topics over and over.. Just don’t play/pay for the game anymore... sit back, play warhammer and wrath and come back in 6 months or however long you want.. but what everybody is doing isn’t helping anybody. Also don’t give me that whole.. We are voicing our opinions speech.. Because we all know its way past that point!

When people make topics laughing at announcements, saying future updates are going to blow well before there even released isn’t voicing your opinion. I know why people are making these posts but.. I mean, it’s really getting old!

For the record.. I do play AoC. I only have a 32 ranger. I only have time to play a few hours a week but when I do most of the time I fun. Yes not being able to click on the trader in my guild city because the mob is on the ground not the floor of the building sucks!

Darkvision!

I agree 

Of course people want Funcom to fail. You don't want them to have people forget this so they can make another game. People are working to ensure that Funcom is never allowed to make another game, because some people lose that right, like Brad McQuaid.

Originally posted by ninfanlink

Its real simple, Funcom fucked up. Everybody who is playing or has played aoc knows this.

My issue is if the community continues bashing and hating on this game it has no chance of ever getting better.  I’m not saying funcom releasing an unfinished game is right. I’m not saying that there customer services is great lol because we all know it’s horrible.. but people posting hate topics and insult topics over and over when the game is three months old is pointless. Unless there goal is to fuck over funcom ever more and fuck over the people who like playing the game.. Then you are all doing a wonderful job.

I would love to know where all these people are when ea puts out another shit title like they do every year with their nascar, nba, ncaa, madden games and when they hype a game and release is full of bugs!

 I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players.

Again I’m not saying what funcom did was right by any means. They released a buggy, crash whore of a game but instead of post nothing but hate topics over and over.. Just don’t play/pay for the game anymore... sit back, play warhammer and wrath and come back in 6 months or however long you want.. but what everybody is doing isn’t helping anybody. Also don’t give me that whole.. We are voicing our opinions speech.. Because we all know its way past that point!

When people make topics laughing at announcements, saying future updates are going to blow well before there even released isn’t voicing your opinion. I know why people are making these posts but.. I mean, it’s really getting old!

For the record.. I do play AoC. I only have a 32 ranger. I only have time to play a few hours a week but when I do most of the time I fun. Yes not being able to click on the trader in my guild city because the mob is on the ground not the floor of the building sucks!

Darkvision!

 

These posts are the funniest whining about people whining about a bad game, now I want to point something out to you for one this game that sold 700k boxes which should translate into 700k accounts created is bad enough that most of those 700k people are quitting and I think we all know people don't quit games because of the forums they quit because it either sucks or they can't play but to follow logic if 80 percent of the people who already bought the game found it to be crap why should another 10 people by the game if it will only work for two of those eight?

All of you who have been burned by funcom are in fact doing a wonderful job and should continue to spread the word about the shady practices of Funcom and op you should think long and hard about the 8 people you want to throw away their money so you can find those two players or better yet come at this problem from the right angle and demand better from funcom.

Originally posted by ninfanlink

Its real simple, Funcom fucked up. Everybody who is playing or has played aoc knows this. 

Lol and then some guys come along and posts that AoC is perfectly great.

I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players

Half of those games you named aren't even mmo's which means they don't expect people to pay money to play past the first month of existence and let's imagine if you bought the sims and the sims were in it but no housing tools you telling me people wouldn't have made a big deal?

Originally posted by jaxsundane

I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players

 

Half of those games you named aren't even mmo's which means they don't expect people to pay money to play past the first month of existence and let's imagine if you bought the sims and the sims were in it but no housing tools you telling me people wouldn't have made a big deal?

Whats your point he is just saying he has played alot of games, and he agree's the game is in need of help. so you are just trolling

Originally posted by ninfanlink

I only have a 32 ranger.

 

There we go

Originally posted by DeadJester

Originally posted by jaxsundane

I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players

 

Half of those games you named aren't even mmo's which means they don't expect people to pay money to play past the first month of existence and let's imagine if you bought the sims and the sims were in it but no housing tools you telling me people wouldn't have made a big deal?

Whats your point he is just saying he has played alot of games, and he agree's the game is in need of help. so you are just trolling

 

My point is evident if you can actually read half those games didn't release with broken crap thatthe devs have no clue how to fix so why would you compare the community of those games to those of an mmo get a clue before you try and come at me
.

Originally posted by andeemann10

Of course people want Funcom to fail. You don't want them to have people forget this so they can make another game. People are working to ensure that Funcom is never allowed to make another game, because some people lose that right, like Brad McQuaid.

That will never happen (FC making other games) they will. They are a larger team than Sigil ever was with more funding.

Some people won't forget (AO) and now AoC for some. What should be evident from AO is the capability of turn around. AO was turned around. And with AoC people are waiting for this to happen. Difference is Funcom is larger than it was 7 yrs ago with AO, more resources, more people, the jobs on their website they are advertising for new people are larger than the EQ dev team I believe. Some key jobs roles for Aoc too I might add.

AoC is not going anywhere, if it was complete fail then there would be numbers like there was for Vanguard at release. More people are playing than have left.

What it boils down to is their ability to improve upon the issues in game and how well its handled, couple with how well new content is put in.

Moving forward I would expect them to communicate their short, mid and longterm roadmap to us all.

As players who pay to play AoC (those here that currently sub) we deserve as gamers to know where the game is heading, communication is, I feel lacking here. Which is why I made a proposal to them as hopefully part of an upcoming article.

How do you think we the community will respond? I would say that out of all those people that post here and no longer sub to the game, maybe 1/2 will just have a "whatever" attitude, the rest will be watching and those that continue to pay to play will take some comfort in knowing a bit more about the direction of the game upon which informed decisions can be made. Its just sad that our of those that quit early on and are so upset 3 months on, they feel their judgment is already too polluted.. and that their inital informed decision to sub off the bat  couldn't be thorough due to communication not being as full as it should of been. (hope that makes sense)

We have to move forward, its my understanding the game is not going to be closed down, it will be improved upon in key area's, evidence of this has happened, but needs to be put in with more rigor and thoroughness and frequency. I also get some serious enjoyment from this game, but it could be so much more better, and thats what needs to be put across to us all more for re-assurance. For some its too late as we can see the 3 month barrage is still ongoing, there is plenty left, a core base still there, as reports have shown us to build upon and work with.

I can't guarentee all the answers as correspondent but I can try to bring some from the source on a regular basis for those who are interested.

EDIT: typo's

This had been brought up a bunch of times in the last few days. It's either "blame the players for posting about how bad the game is", or "Stop posting badly about AoC, it's ruining the game".

Again, the game gets negative feedback because the game is not very good, and FC have flubbed the release as if that was their intention.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by DeadJester

Originally posted by jaxsundane

I’ve have been playing games for over 10 years. I’ve played games from Age of empires, quake, doom, decent, civ, wow, eq, vanguard, simcity and hundreds of others but I have never seen a community out to get/kill a game more than Age Of Conan players/ex-players

 

Half of those games you named aren't even mmo's which means they don't expect people to pay money to play past the first month of existence and let's imagine if you bought the sims and the sims were in it but no housing tools you telling me people wouldn't have made a big deal?

Whats your point he is just saying he has played alot of games, and he agree's the game is in need of help. so you are just trolling

 

My point is evident if you can actually read half those games didn't release with broken crap thatthe devs have no clue how to fix so why would you compare the community of those games to those of an mmo get a clue before you try and come at me
.

Yeah and while he agrees the game is in need of help he fails to acknowledge that most of it's players were alienated by funcom and have every right to complain as long as they want which is the chance a company takes when they intentionally mislead which is what funcom did, you can like any game you want but the op is a fool for coming into forums trying to tell people they can't dislike the game or discuss their dislike of the game.

Just like people who like the game have every right to post how much they like it, and you know what? I don't see people who don't like the game telling them they can't post positive posts about funcom only you sad sacks who are getting nervous this ghost town is gonna get shut down.

Originally posted by ninfanlink

Again I’m not saying what funcom did was right by any means. They released a buggy, crash whore of a game but instead of post nothing but hate topics over and over.. Just don’t play/pay for the game anymore... sit back, play warhammer and wrath and come back in 6 months or however long you want.. but what everybody is doing isn’t helping anybody. Also don’t give me that whole.. We are voicing our opinions speech.. Because we all know its way past that point!

I wholeheartedly agree with this. It's become rather pathetic. It really is time to move on, the crusades against the company are pointless now. Spending hours analyzing the company's stock and writing massive essays on it is a complete waste of time and energy. Changing your avatar to a "Failcom" logo is pretty ridiculous. Regurgitating the same old complaints and arguements that everyone else who reads the forums has heard thousands of times serves no purpose.

The reason is simple.  We don't want Warhammer or Bioware to try and pull the same crap as Funcom did.  When Funcom suffers it is a warning to other gaming companies to be honest about their product.

BTW Avery.  Not sure how good your financial analysis is.. but Funcom has  36M  in cash,  has 23M in short term debt and is losing 16M every 3 months.  Do the math.  It is not going to be long before they close up shop. 

The only reason AO is still around is because Funcom was borrowing heavily on the hope that AoC would be a hit.    That didn't happen, they lost 8M last quarter and 16M in cashflow.   Funcom is in debt and loses money every quarter.  The cash they have on hand will barely cover their operating expenses til the end of the year.   They have nothing to borrow against any more.

All the evidence is pointing to funcom trying to keep the hype/funds going long enough to make the release of the 360 version.  Displaying DX10 to jurno's behind closed doors instead of showing it to us, selling of assets, selling off shares to cover costs, not closing down empty servers...all of this indicates that they are creating the illusion that all is well so investors dont dump them before  the console version is out.  They know it will sell to the action console crowd and gather enough revenue to carry on with other projects.

Also, when they announce that they are working on a new mmo and an expansion when they just launched this one.....that doesn't sit to well with many people.  People want all the AoC generated funds going back into the game until it is running smoothly.

Originally posted by Narshe

Originally posted by ninfanlink

Again I’m not saying what funcom did was right by any means. They released a buggy, crash whore of a game but instead of post nothing but hate topics over and over.. Just don’t play/pay for the game anymore... sit back, play warhammer and wrath and come back in 6 months or however long you want.. but what everybody is doing isn’t helping anybody. Also don’t give me that whole.. We are voicing our opinions speech.. Because we all know its way past that point!

 

I wholeheartedly agree with this. It's become rather pathetic. It really is time to move on, the crusades against the company are pointless now. Spending hours analyzing the company's stock and writing massive essays on it is a complete waste of time and energy. Changing your avatar to a "Failcom" logo is pretty ridiculous. Regurgitating the same old complaints and arguements that everyone else who reads the forums has heard thousands of times serves no purpose.

It is your right of course to have your opinion which can easily be reinforced by not reading negative posts as I'm sure most of the "Failcom army" doesn't read positive posts about AOC but we still get back to you guys instead of demainding better from the company trying to silence others rights of expression which to me is pretty pointless.

If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!

Also last time i checked the publisher has alot to do with when a game is released.. but yet nobody is upset with eidos! hmm

Originally posted by ninfanlink

If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!

Also last time i checked the publisher has alot to do with when a game is released.. but yet nobody is upset with eidos! hmm

Well I think it's mainly because this is very similar to what funcom did with AO which is another comment I heard so they really should have known better.

"If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!"

No, what you mean here is all the negative comments don't do any good for you since you still play and are hoping some sucker out there will sub regardless of the fact that it's just a shell of a game, that's the problem with these posts you people don't care about the community just your own experience.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by ninfanlink

If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!

Also last time i checked the publisher has alot to do with when a game is released.. but yet nobody is upset with eidos! hmm

 

Well I think it's mainly because this is very similar to what funcom did with AO which is another comment I heard so they really should have known better.

"If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!"

 

No, what you mean here is all the negative comments don't do any good for you since you still play and are hoping some sucker out there will sub regardless of the fact that it's just a shell of a game, that's the problem with these posts you people don't care about the community just your own experience.

 

This has nothing to do with me.. if AoC dies.. then guess what.. i go play another game. So posting nothing but topics about the same shit over and over again is helping? People starting failcom armys and making icons for the army is helping? I have an idea to help... stop posting about the same shit  over and over and leave the forums alone so people who wanna post about stuff besides isssues can!

If people really think posting nothing but shit over and over again is going to make funcom learn there leason, then i guess nobody has heard of a company called EA who gets over 2 million hate letters a year about there shitte over priced sports games and other games!

Originally posted by ninfanlink

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by ninfanlink

If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!

Also last time i checked the publisher has alot to do with when a game is released.. but yet nobody is upset with eidos! hmm

 

Well I think it's mainly because this is very similar to what funcom did with AO which is another comment I heard so they really should have known better.

"If it dosent sit well then done buy it. Dont play it, but to continue to push negitive comments dosent do anybody any good besides yourself!"

 

No, what you mean here is all the negative comments don't do any good for you since you still play and are hoping some sucker out there will sub regardless of the fact that it's just a shell of a game, that's the problem with these posts you people don't care about the community just your own experience.

 

 

This has nothing to do with me.. if AoC dies.. then guess what.. i go play another game. So posting nothing but topics about the same shit over and over again is helping? People starting failcom armys and making icons for the army is helping? I have an idea to help... stop posting about the same shit  over and over and leave the forums alone so people who wanna post about stuff besides isssues can!

If people really think posting nothing but shit over and over again is going to make funcom learn there leason hasnt heard of a company called EA who gets over 2 million hate emails a year about there shitte over priced sports games and other games!

You are obviously much more technically inclined than I to have known that mmorpg has reached it's post limit oh yeah that's right they haven't so what is your point other than to be a free speech gustapo?

You want to post abot your drunken brawls in aoc go right ahead oh wait you can't you are right in one respect if aoc shuts down all you can do is go play another game you obviously can't convince them to make a damn playable gme otherwise you would just do that instead of going into posts you know bash the game then get mad that they are doind exactly what the title said it would do haha