Originally posted by Friction2u

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Originally posted by froverland


Dead just like the game lol

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 Really?

 Yes really. That link you provided is absolutely meaningless for the USA and any other non third world country. So I suppose they can still sell dolls to Eastern fucken Slovakia wihout a problem.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Damn, I wanted some Darkfall action figures

I especially wanted the Tasos doll.  Everytime you pull his string, a new lie comes out of his mouth.

 

LOL

Originally posted by Roin

Why don't they just change the name if it's that much of a hassle?  Could be something like "Fall of Darkness" or something.

There is no hassel. This is simply showing they didn't feel it necessary to TM the Darkfall name. Once you have the TM it is really no problem keeping it up. It costs nothing. Why change the name? More of a hassel to TM a new name.

Fan or no Fan of DF, still gotta wonder why let the TM go if they are planning on launching in 08.

Originally posted by talismen351

Originally posted by Roin

Why don't they just change the name if it's that much of a hassle?  Could be something like "Fall of Darkness" or something.

 

There is no hassel.

Sure there is. They've been trying to get that trademarked since 2003 and still don't have it. 

This is simply showing they didn't feel it necessary to TM the Darkfall name.

The one they abandoned is a different one. They still have the other (which is suspended) and has had all the problems since 2003. Two different markets. That's why the one they abandoned was allowed through.

Fan or no Fan of DF, still gotta wonder why let the TM go if they are planning on launching in 08.

Wondering is the joy of following Darkfall

Originally posted by talismen351

Originally posted by Roin

Why don't they just change the name if it's that much of a hassle?  Could be something like "Fall of Darkness" or something.

 

There is no hassel. This is simply showing they didn't feel it necessary to TM the Darkfall name. Once you have the TM it is really no problem keeping it up. It costs nothing. Why change the name? More of a hassel to TM a new name.

Fan or no Fan of DF, still gotta wonder why let the TM go if they are planning on launching in 08.

The trademark for the Game itself though still says live.  Its the trademarks for everything else that was let go.  Wonder if it could be part of some publishing deal.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Damn, I wanted some Darkfall action figures

I especially wanted the Tasos doll.  Everytime you pull his string, a new lie comes out of his mouth.

 

This is so full of epic poportions that I give this comment a 11 out of 10. Thank you sir you win the comment of the year award                  

Hi, I looked at this in detail not long ago. There was a previous fantasy computer game called "Dark Fall" that was published in the late 1990s I think. Obviously that would mean it would be a trademark violation for another company to make a fantasy computer game called "Darkfall". So they got their applications rejected right away. It is strange, but the people at Darkfall thought they could get around this for a while just by working the beaureacracy correctly. That never happened, but what did happen is they eventually negotiated with the original trademark holder for "Dark Fall" fantasy video game, and got them to waive their rights to the trademark and allow Aventurine to [basically] take over that registration without protest. So, basically Aventurine bought the trademark rights from the ones who already owned that trademark, because it seems unlikely that the company just waived their rights away for free.

As for the one that was abandoned, I forget what the deal was with that one, but anyway it doesn't really matter, because the trademark that they have successfully registered covers what they would need it to.

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

Did you read what I posted or not?  I thought I explained it pretty clearly.  Companies don't just waive their trademark rights because they think it is the right thing to do.  They waive their trademark rights when money changes hands, generally.

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

Well they have that nifty sign on their offices. Pretty sure they paid someone for that.

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

 

Did you read what I posted or not?  I thought I explained it pretty clearly.  Companies don't just waive their trademark rights because they think it is the right thing to do.  They waive their trademark rights when money changes hands, generally.

Oh so you're saying someone bought the Darkfall trademark from them? and that's why they abandoned it?

Ya real smart.

And stop claiming "FACT". You're just pulling bullshit out of your ass.

The "FACT" is that Dark Fall: the journal is the reason why they cannot get their name trademarked here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Fall

A sequel titled Dark Fall II: Lights Out was released in 2004. Dark Fall 3 is slated for 2010 or 2011.

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

 

Did you read what I posted or not?  I thought I explained it pretty clearly.  Companies don't just waive their trademark rights because they think it is the right thing to do.  They waive their trademark rights when money changes hands, generally.

 Oh so you're saying someone bought the Darkfall trademark from them? and that's why they abandoned it?

Ya real smart

If you can't understand simple English, why are you arguing with people on an English discussion board?  [Not a rhetorical question.] 

Everything I said is a fact is available on the USPTO website for anyone to go verify, I'm just not going to comb through it again because it takes a while if you are not an expert.

Nothing you said is a fact, They did not buy any trademark rights from anyone.

The fact is that they only have 1 live application still in the system which is suspended and has been in troubles and suspended since 2003.

And that is the one that gives them legal rights to use "Darkfall" as a computer game commercially within the USA.

Technically you don't need a trademark. But the fact that someone already has a copyright on this name it would be a completely idiotic thing to release the game with that name. They could get sued instantly even if the current owners allow them to use it. They could at anytime change their minds..

The fact is -- the trademark atorneys job is to make sure 100% without a shadow of a doubt that there could never be any legal problems from a trademark they allow through. If there's even a tiny risk they will never allow it through.

"Darkfall" is just completely tainted with potential problems and that's why it still is not through since 2003.

Originally posted by Chillingham

Nothing you said is a fact, They did not buy any trademark rights from anyone.

The fact is that they only have 1 live application still in the system which is suspended and has been in troubles and suspended since 2003.

And that is the one that gives them legal rights to use "Darkfall" as a computer game commercially within the USA.

Technically you don't need a trademark. But the fact that someone already has a copyright on this name it would be a completely idiotic thing to release the game with that name. They could get sued instantly even if the current owners allow them to use it. They could at anytime change their minds..

The fact is -- the trademark atorneys job is to make sure 100% without a shadow of a doubt that there could never be any legal problems from a trademark they allow through. If there's even a tiny risk they will never allow it through.

"Darkfall" is just completely tainted with potential problems and that's why it still is not through since 2003.

why dont you try (darkfall online)

Originally posted by downtoearth

why dont you try (darkfall online)

No TESS records were found to match the criteria of your query.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

 

Well they have that nifty sign on their offices. Pretty sure they paid someone for that.

You realize those offices are in greece, right? As in EU, not the U.S. You cannot use the same name as someone else in the U.S. just because you have the name in Europe.

... That's false... The trade federation doesn't state a product as dead... They state it as dismissed if the company doesn't finish it or sell it... I hope you learn something OP...

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by downtoearth

why dont you try (darkfall online)

 

No TESS records were found to match the criteria of your query.

thats odd because they tech could use darkfall online to put the game in the us.

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Originally posted by Chillingham
Oh so you're saying someone bought the Darkfall trademark from them? and that's why they abandoned it?

Ya real smart.

And stop claiming "FACT". You're just pulling bullshit out of your ass.

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It was already pointed out earlier in the thread that they didn't abandon it, they just didn't give sufficient response when requested. It's already been taken care of.

As for the "pulling bullshit out of your ass"... Pot, meet Kettle.

Originally posted by Neverknow

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

 

Well they have that nifty sign on their offices. Pretty sure they paid someone for that.

 

You realize those offices are in greece, right? As in EU, not the U.S. You cannot use the same name as someone else in the U.S. just because you have the name in Europe.

Maybe not but I'm pretty sure I can buy a sign that says anything I want anywhere in the world they sell signs if I have enough money.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Neverknow

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Chillingham

Originally posted by SuperCrap

FWIW, the fact they worked out this trademark situation and apparently bought the rights to the Darkfall trademark from the previous trademark owner is probably the strongest [only?] evidence to date that these developers actually have a game on their hands that might possibly release.

 

go away. They didn't buy anything from anyone.

 

Well they have that nifty sign on their offices. Pretty sure they paid someone for that.

 

You realize those offices are in greece, right? As in EU, not the U.S. You cannot use the same name as someone else in the U.S. just because you have the name in Europe.

 

Maybe not but I'm pretty sure I can buy a sign that says anything I want anywhere in the world they sell signs if I have enough money.

it wasnt fake...