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8/12/08 7:33:01 PM#41
i cant see vanguard ever getting rid of its stigma as a bad mmo enought to attact many new players as it stands .
It probably never will. It can be a pretty good niche game IMHO. One of the interresting things about the fall of Sigil is, that their product basically never got (or very few) advertisment. Sigil was already broke as they released and Sony never bothered to put money into advertisment later on. So the roughly 240k copies Sigil sold was pretty impressive for that time and the situation. What you can get with enough budget in adverts shows AoC nicely. |
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8/12/08 7:38:05 PM#42
Originally posted by Amathe
Its ok. If you have fun doing so, do it. I would like to know what Brad McQuaid is currently doing after this fiasco. |
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8/12/08 7:40:48 PM#43
Your whole article is wage and empty words , you never give enough reasons why you like or dislike game...
bad/ There were only two thing you ever talk about , Character models you dislike, a bit about creation and good/ Open world you can go anywhere you like hmmm hardly enough informations for anyone to get a large picture.... anyway my problem with V anguard is texturing ....
its texture that is completly ruining the game texture on wals , floors etc is always generic and tiled so badly that it hurts me to watch it ,,, even when i was a student on second year of animation i could do beter |
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8/12/08 8:15:44 PM#44
I can sum up Vanguard for EVERYONE reading this thread:
IF YOU LIKE: Massive worlds, PvE combat, 3 types of game advancement, mostly unique and varying classes from each other, tons of quests, multiple areas to hunt for every level from 1-50, 3 distinct continents with different geology, ruins, vegitation, as well as owning mounts, boats and non-instanced houses and engaging in strategic, low-twitch gameplay -- YOU WILL LIKE VANGUARD.
IF YOU LIKE: Zoning, WoW, PvP, instancing, twitch-based gameplay, cartoon graphics, pixelized boobs, speed levelling, hundreds of hours of faction grinding and repeat dungeon runs nightly, OR If you feel SOE owes you personally for what they did to SWG and therefore you are bound and determined to spend the rest of your days angry that a company ruined your game, -- YOU WILL NOT LIKE VANGUARD.
It's that easy. Anyone saying Vanguard (today) is crap has either never tried it (since GU5) or is still angry at SOE for what they did to SWG and are just griefing on the game to 'get even' with Sony.
Anyone still on the fence - give it about 3 weeks and you'll get the long-awaited trial island and new character models.
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8/12/08 8:22:43 PM#45
When update 6 comes... so will I. I DID play at christmas for the free month and I DID play again this last month. From launch until now this game has transformed (and yes... that was Sony's doing). The character models are the final step (with the new starting island zone). There are FAR too many things that have been tweaked in this game to mention here. Crash to desktop... gone, crazy hitching... gone, falling through the universe... gone, uncountable bugs... gone and unfortunately, 90% of the population... gone. Please give it another try. I do hope that Sony relaunches this game and recommits to expanding and improving Vanguard. Broadening the Diplomacy... for one (so much potential here). |
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8/12/08 9:18:58 PM#46
never, theres a long list of mmo's to play and while VG isnt last on the list it is second from the bottom. once bitten ...... |
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8/12/08 9:29:20 PM#47
My experience almost the same with you. I play VG when it launch and very disappointed with bugs everywhere. I came back last month (with free invite) and found it's a lot better. But I still disagree with many thing. I use 7950GT with lowest VG setting but still found some freezed when running. Some quest still bugged and can't finish (even quest on low level). Some quest is just non-sense to do. Some quest very buggy (like kill bird on the rock quest, you just can't kill them). My gnome sorcerer can't swim pass the river (may be because he's too short? :P) VG is very good game and better when they tone down the hard level compared to launch. But the bug destroy half of my fun so I didn't subscibe when free play time end (just wonder why they dont remove those buggy quest - that's very easy). I may be subscibe on next big patch if they can solve most the bug. |
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8/12/08 9:43:58 PM#48
Originally posted by Amathe
lol |
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8/13/08 12:46:57 AM#49
I hardly ever post here. As a matter of fact this is probably my first post. But i have to ask, how much did SOE pay you to write that? |
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8/13/08 1:17:33 AM#50
One game to rule them all, one hype to find them, one hype to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
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8/13/08 3:46:07 AM#51
Woot, 19 months after release if you have a solid computer the game is finally playable. I really don't even understand why you bothered making this post. Aside from playable performance you don't mention a single way the game has improved since launch. This must be the 100th time this game has been "fixed" and is now miraculously awesome guys please come back. /sigh |
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8/13/08 5:13:08 AM#52
Originally posted by Bronks
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8/13/08 7:13:34 AM#53
Originally posted by Frotus
I personally think EverQuest2 is the best PVE game out there right now. Vanguard looks cool and is coming a long way, but still has so much to fix and finish (so many empty areas still, not to mention some really cool "could have been" dungeons that are still unfinished and empty :( Isle of Dawn will make it easier for new players, but it will be really hard to get new players in the game. There are so many AAA MMORPG titles on the launch agenda, that people rather try out a New MMO, then an MMO that failed at launch and is now supposedly better and playable. That's the sad reality and hence only 4 servers left in Vanguard, from wich only 1 is decently populated, 2 others seriously lacking in population and the 4th PVP one completely empty. Cheers |
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8/13/08 7:52:48 AM#54
I bought it and played for a few months at launch after the bad reviews. I just wanted to see how bad it was and was pleasantly surprised. I even bought a new PC to play it so some good came of this :) As mentioned before, if you like the massive open world type MMO then this is for you. I'd like to see a follow-up article about what is great about it now. I'm currently enjoying AoC, will try WAR and I think the only other MMOs I'd seriously play are WoW and VG. Ryzom will be back soon which also has some beautiful scenery and fun gathering and crafting systems. VG reminds me of it in some ways although each has its pros and cons. I'd try the free trials of both, what have you got to lose? |
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8/13/08 9:06:10 AM#55
On the one hand I see the benefits of VG compared to other MMOs now too. After leaving VG in a similar ire, it seems it is one of the few open worlds where you are not confined into some zone cages and stuff, or limited to few and boring races and classes. But those had always been the bonus of VG, nothing new here. On the other hand, what drove me away never had been so much the bugs, but the sterile feeling of the game, the lack of the "many nice details" that made it feel too less of a living, breathing, immersive world. Basically its one big quest hub, end of the story, and nothing in VG has changed in that aspect at all. On top they took customization away, which was just the final blow for me to go. I want to see the new models in first and the new starter isle before I even consider giving this game another try, and even then... while I can appreciate some of VG's accomplishments, open world, many races, good classes, it has WAY to many shortcomings which for me never had anything to do with polish or bugs. Most quests are still extremely generic and "soulless", as are most civilized places by design. The entire game just lacked "soul". And in some aspects it is just too less casual friendly for me. I dont have the time to invest as I has as student, and dying at the bottom of some damn, hard dungeon is just as evil as it used to be. Given the long time they had the changes are nice but way too few and small. |
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8/13/08 10:22:43 AM#56
Sure, VG won't be for everybody, it does have a pretty steep learning curve and often new players feel lost and unable to figure out their characters or different spheres. However, the Dawn of Isle could really help that type of situation. Right now, the game is in great shape and has an active and vibrant player-base and community. I've played since launch and I've never seen as many people running around as I do now. Many folks stayed after the last free month promotion. Game Update 6 (the mega-update) is really something to behold and I can't wait until it arrives. |
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8/13/08 11:21:01 AM#57
I can play the game with a laptop. 1.8ghz duo core, 2 gigs ram, 512 meg Vid card. I can play it on balanced without issue. Performance isnt the issue for me and I dont think its a huge issue to anyone anymore. VG still feels dry. With my lvl 50 character, I find it difficult to find new quests. The contant still doesnt make Telon feel alive. It's too robotic. It doesnt flow. Also, it is tough to get a group and you are waiting with the LFG tag on for awhile unless you spam advertise you want a group. (Similar to EQ2) I tried to get back into the game a month ago and paid for 30 days. I gave it a good shot but I just didnt get hooked. I've now switched genres and I am trying EVE. I'll be subbing after my 14 days are up and seeing where the game takes me. |
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8/13/08 1:31:46 PM#58
I just needed to add this to a previous post I made on this Thread:
There is one thing this game does not have that draws me to play it more and more: There are NO "WOW KIDDIES" that play this game and anything that keeps them away from ruining the Gaming Community of one game will surely make we want to stay a while longer and explore and play the game..........if it is way to hard for WoW Kiddies? then it is my kind of game! Now AoC is becoming the home of those WoW Kiddies, so move on I must?................So I will check back when they release the next Big Patch and I truly hope it will become the game it was meant to be? Its worse to actually think about doing something then actually doing it!!! |
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8/14/08 4:28:41 AM#59
Originally posted by neonwire
I agree. I'm sorry but that article had very little in it that was worth reading. OK so you spent a long section of your life dreaming about a game that was essentially crap. Now its not as crap but still not brilliant. Well.....ummm.....thanks for that. ps. I also reinstalled the game several months ago and uninstalled it yet again a few days after that. It still seemed like a very weak and unfinished game to me and of course the character models were still as ugly as ever. I might have a look again though once the new models are implemented and if they still look stupid then its goodbye to Vanguard for good.
Ah well, i have read more thrilling articles. |
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8/14/08 7:29:30 PM#60
Okay maybe EQ2 is better... I just got stuck under a lake last night and ended up under the world and still running out of air... Drowning is fun... Luckily you can cast spells still from down there and gate before you die... still annoying though for a 19 month old game. :( Runes of Magic beta starts soon :) (and WAR for PvP) |
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