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Looks like Erling Ellingson has decided to face the music on the official forums after his interview with MMORPG.com's Jon Wood.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=155049 If you still have forum access, you can watch as players try to hold him accountable for downplaying missing features in the interview. One of the most amazing quotes in this thread comes when Erling says...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The PvP fugitive system was not meant for launch. That's what I was referring to. As for big features cut for launch, the only big thing is the drunken brawling. Yeah, it's a central feature I admit that, and we hope to bring it in sometime in the future when we can put focus away from more important issues. All other big features -- such as city building, sieging and mounted combat -- are all in there. Of course we know they can be improved and that's what we're doing right now." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- All I can say is wow.... |
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8/12/08 8:01:08 AM#2
"The PvP fugitive system was not meant for launch. That's what I was referring to. As for big features cut for launch, the only big thing is the drunken brawling. Yeah, it's a central feature I admit that, and we hope to bring it in sometime in the future when we can put focus away from more important issues. All other big features -- such as city building, sieging and mounted combat -- are all in there. Of course we know they can be improved and that's what we're doing right now."
Nonsense..... RIP Orc Choppa |
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Distopia
Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
8/12/08 8:05:26 AM#3
Everything's going according to plan, They're now attempting to reach out , When players don't buy it , They'll be dismissed as the vocal minority and blamed for the state the game is heading in.Watch and see! For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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8/12/08 8:07:42 AM#4
Well famine has locked it!!! looks like it got to warm in there for them, never know they might slip up and say the truth. so famine you still use these boards or you say you do, why lock it? Eu forums they tend to just edit out off topic coments and keep it open. |
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8/12/08 8:11:15 AM#5
Yup, Famine locked it. That goes a long way towards showing us that she lacks even the smallest bit of common sense. She might as well spit in our faces. I can't wait to see the boards explode. |
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Again wow. I am surprised to see that they locked a thread where one of the Funcom employees was trying to address player concerns. Is the left hand not talking to the right hand, or did Erling tell Glen to lock that thread because it was getting too hot in there for him? The questions asked by the players here are ones that deserved to be answered. People payed money for this product and found that features on the box were not in the game inside the box. When an employee gives an interview claiming only thing missing was Drunken Brawling when the box claims direct X 10, and was advertised with a full pvp system. Not everyone who buys a game follows it on forums. How was the customer to know Direct X 10 wasn't in the box by walking into the store and reading it? Very disappointing again to see the mods shut down a thread like this. This shows that they are not confident enough in their product to face the paying customers and answer to them. |
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8/12/08 8:28:52 AM#7
Love this post by RoninTheWicked, so true...
Alot of fanbois use the stupid excuse that WoW have problem and is lacking this and that when launch... sign....... wake up pls......
RIP Orc Choppa |
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8/12/08 8:35:55 AM#8
Are these the US officiall forums? I wonder if the norwegian mother company even knows about this, because I have never seen something like this on european forums. It's quite shocking actually. |
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http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=155281
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Distopia
Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
8/12/08 8:43:09 AM#10
Originally posted by arctarus He's got a good point but I don't fully agree with it . Yes it's irrelevant whether WOW had bugs at launch , however it's unfair to compare the state of a game with 4 years of added content and polish to a recently released game. A better comparison to make would be the quality of patches both games have received since their launch . Which company has the more stable releases and which company truly uses feedback and quality assurance to please their fans. Saying their game should be as good as wow in 08 is just as irrelevant as saying wow had bugs at launch , Given 4 years of live development it very well may be , We'll know in about 4 years. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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LOL! More threads being locked for asking why the other thread was locked. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=155274
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Distopia
Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
8/12/08 8:49:06 AM#12
Originally posted by Paragus1 And people wonder why mythic doesn't use official forums . For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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Ghost12
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8/12/08 8:50:30 AM#13
Wow....this is amazing. I havent seen anything like this in a long time. Pretty much a small playerbase revolt on the forums. In another thread referenced to the Ellingston interview: Wow,
Just ... Wow. We finally have a thread with some communication, and instead of editing out the off topic posts, you lock it. This is why we, your customer base, have a serious problem with you. So, go unlock it. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=155049 And the threads locked by Hackthorr. HAHA! What a JOKE!
Edit: Oh sorry, Malickiebloo got to it first, lol.
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8/12/08 8:52:57 AM#14
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8/12/08 8:52:58 AM#15
Originally posted by Malickiebloo He's got a good point but I don't fully agree with it . Yes it's irrelevant whether WOW had bugs at launch , however it's unfair to compare the state of a game with 4 years of added content and polish to a recently released game. A better comparison to make would be the quality of patches both games have received since their launch . Which company has the more stable releases and which company truly uses feedback and quality assurance to please their fans. Saying their game should be as good as wow in 08 is just as irrelevant as saying wow had bugs at launch , Given 4 years of live development it very well may be , We'll know in about 4 years.
From what i understand, though im not there at launch, though WoW have bugs and some unstable issue, mostly its in regards to over populations, but they have more content than AoC have now. And If LOTR, and most probably War (maybe even DF? dont kill me pls.... ) can have such a smooth launch, than truly MMO now adays i think shouldnt be so buggy like AoC as if you are still playing beta. Its really 2008 now, not 4 or 5 years ago, which technology have really been improve leaps and bounds.... Personally i think if a DEV keep using other games fault to compare and to so call justified their own problems, than they have fail very hard....
PS: Do i need to say im not a WoW fanbois??? (another sad state of foums...)
RIP Orc Choppa |
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Drifter
Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
8/12/08 8:59:27 AM#16
Originally posted by arctarus
From what i understand, though im not there at launch, though WoW have bugs and some unstable issue, mostly its in regards to over populations, but they have more content than AoC have now. And If LOTR, and most probably War (maybe even DF? dont kill me pls.... ) can have such a smooth launch, than truly MMO now adays i think shouldnt be so buggy like AoC as if you are still playing beta. Its really 2008 now, not 4 or 5 years ago, which technology have really been improve leaps and bounds.... Personally i think if a DEV keep using other games fault to compare and to so call justified their own problems, than they have fail very hard....
PS: Do i need to say im not a WoW fanbois??? (another sad state of foums...)
Na I got no hint of you being any type of fanboi , I think you may have misunderstood me though. I was basically saying both arguments are pretty much invalid . I'd compare their patches individualy to better gauge the quality and skill of the developers work.Which of course so far Blizzard wins hands down. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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8/12/08 9:00:19 AM#17
Just like to point out one thing about the previous post: |
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8/12/08 9:02:41 AM#18
It's very interesting how it happened: a) Erling posts as "LordOrion" in a post calling out some of the key missing features of the game b) he replies to some posts with the usual "we told the truth, things like PVP system weren't meant to be in at launch" (while avoiding key issues like performance issues, gems, PVP system, bad patching, broken sieges, etc etc) c) people point out (as they did on this post) that those things HAD been promised at launch with links to the lies and PR spin pre- and during launch d) damage can't be repaired, the thread successfully points to the fact that Erling lied during the interviews and is actually lying on the forum at that very moment, with dozens of posters calling Erling out by mentioning specific areas where he lied and is lying e) the thread with Erling's posts is locked and threads referring to it are closed in order to bury that dismal failure of a PR stunt Conclusion: At least on the US forum, players are in open revolt against the lies and spin told by Funcom about AOC For the first time, it really seems like moderators have lost control as they have to lock and delete more threads than they can leave open, the complaints are a flood that Erling Ellingson just can't spin his way out of Solution for Funcom now: a) Blame the playerbase for the failure of AOC b) Spin it so Erling tried to reach out and was rebutted by a "vocal minority" of "trolls and haters" c) Continue trying to lure more people to buy the game with vague promises and outright lies |
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8/12/08 9:03:06 AM#19
Originally posted by Malickiebloo
Na I got no hint of you being any type of fanboi , I think you may have misunderstood me though. I was basically saying both arguments are pretty much invalid . I'd compare their patches individualy to better gauge the quality and skill of the developers work.Which of course so far Blizzard wins hands down.
Sorry, getting too uptight now adays when posting in forums... RIP Orc Choppa |
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8/12/08 9:05:55 AM#20
Originally posted by Dreamstrider
Agree, every game that release will more or less have bugs on their own. I never said that i expect a perfect launch, but just a smooth one... Hope this helps... RIP Orc Choppa |
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