Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

I said it once and will say it again..

Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.

This deserved some recognition.

You destruction weaklings are in for a surprise. I shall welcome you to WAR with my hammer and it will be glorious. Happy Zerging rofl.

Originally posted by Tsukano

Originally posted by greymann

Originally posted by Draenor

Same thing that happened with WoW.

 

Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass 

Which one screams bad ass?

 

DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance.  I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin.  He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion.  My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance.  Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem.  It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction.  A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol.  And destruction just reeks of badassery.  The better pvpers will opt for destruction.   There's no doubt.

 

Engineer doesnt sound good with its turrents to protect keeps? White Lion doesnt sound good for distraction? Bright Wizard doesnt sound like awsome DPS? Warrior Priest isn't a great buffer?........

 

There are ALOT of good order classes for PvP. if u wanna be ignorant thats cool, my guild will just be rollin you all day ...then im sure ppl will cry nerf.

Guy... I wasn't talking about how good the classes are in pvp... I was talking about the appeal that races like chaos or greenskins have over dwarves and elves to hardcore pvpers.  Yikes.

Originally posted by Ascension08

Originally posted by greymann

Originally posted by Draenor

Same thing that happened with WoW.

 

Little kids want to play the hero, big kids want to play the guy who looks like an absolute bad ass 

Which one screams bad ass?

 

DUDE I said the exact same thing over a year ago at warhammer alliance.  I got either flammed or typical fanboy rebuttals then the thread was closed by an admin.  He actually said my term "badass" was too simplistic and that I should have done a technical analysis if I wanted to form an opinion.  My god how blind are you if you don't recognize (other than the obvious!) that the same formula didn't work so well for wow's alliance.  Official reviews state the obvious, that mythic's marketing is going to exacerbate the problem.  It's not so much the number but the quality of pvp player that's going to unbalance order and destruction.  A lot of those order classes just simply don't look appealing for a pvp situation. lol.  And destruction just reeks of badassery.  The better pvpers will opt for destruction.   There's no doubt.

Chaos: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_Tchar02.jpg

Empire: http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/wallpaper/WAR_KarlFranz.jpg

You're blind if you don't think Karl Franz looks just as, if not more badass, than Tchar'zanek. Sure it doesn't represent the entire Order alliance but the great thing about WAR is there's no pink afro gnomes. The good guys are dark grey and the bad guys are black as night. And a little green around the edges if you want to count Greenskins.

Wallpapers? Well I guess some people look at those.  Let's talk about something a little more visable like this box art.  Here it's not as much how factions look it's who looks more dominant and aggressive in a fight and more prominent in the layout (being what someone sees first on the box).

http://www.vgboxart.com/view/8361/warhammer.online.age.of.reckoning/?replies=10 

Order is like oh crap let me defend myself... God I hope i get my pistol out in time... Destruction is like AAAARRRRGH I'll eat your children next!!!!   Now of course order in this art has appeal of another kind but it isn't the kind to attract the more assertive in pvp.  Don't get me wrong I like the art.  It's got that classic fantasy thing but I'm just thinking about what little things influence someone to choose their side.

Not being in beta myself, I've only heard greenskins are fun to play, which might be part of the draw. As for being the underdog, it's been said that if one side is at a disadvantage, they might get an xp bonus or something to level it out.

Also, witch hunter is pretty badass to me, not exactly the hero. He'll burn an entire village before letting one chaos worsihpper live.

I dont care about being the good side or being badass...

Im rolling dwarf. I want to drink lots of beer, grow an enormous beard, be short, and explode my enemies's kneecaps.

Also I dont think that choosing a race is about being badass. It's about looking at the races and go: hmmm... which race's face do I want to melt the most?

growth is out.

Now that I've mulled it over for a day, I would think 'hardcore' gamers would care more about the skills of a class and how those skills intermix with other classes on their side.  I'd go prancing around in a tiara and a My Little Ponies t-shirt if that's what it took to pwn some wanna-be l33t kids.

Might just be me though.

Chaos has more complete classes. That's why...

A 3 class Empire with ... a mage and ... a witch hunter .... Who wants to play with that???

Mythic doesn't know 70% of all warhammer miniatures players have an Empire block in their closet.

To me its clear : Mythic designers hardly played the minature game at all.

But of course 95% of the MMORPG players are not even interested in the miniatures game. Who cares.

Well the WH clubs care.

It surprises me every time I play at my club that interest of those Warhammer players is so low. You hardly find anyhting in the MMO that makes the Warhammer miniatures game so interesting.

If they had deleted the WP, it would have been  a complete disaster.

In terms of the general rule of thumb I agree with what folks have said about bada$$ being the way to roll.

That said, I tend to like characters I can actually 'feel' and so I'll end rolling a dwarf and a High Elf. *shrug*

When my brother and I play together (we're in vastly different time zones so it's not too much) we've always tended to play the 'goody' types. For this game we're waffling over to the greenskin side of the fence just to be different. That said, for my solo play, I just don't 'feel' evil enough to mumble vague profanities and spit on the sidewalk like good Chaos minions should.

I think that while the general populace tends to go with 'cool' for a lot of folks, especially Veterans ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RegzUvYZ7E&feature=related )

of gaming, it ends up being what feels best for each individual.

Anyone who think realm imbalance isn't an issue haven't played DAoC. If Chaos is going dominate the population then it seems WAR will share the same flaw as Mythic's previous game.

Sure being the underdog can be cool, and getting bonuses on a under pop realm is a nice but that will fade, and quickly when you're fighting out numbered 2 to 1 in every keep battle and frontier encounter. Another major problem with being the under pop realm is it tend to bleed population. A few hardcore guilds will stay and some might even relocate to your server but when the word gets out that the realm is getting blasted with zerg raids day in day out, the general population will take a dive as people start leaving for more populated realms on other servers.

Chaos will always triumph, because Order is dumb.

Follow the lore. ;) Chaos is stronger individually, the Order should get their forces by numbers. You are doomed to think there'll ever be more people in the Order than in Chaos (for that exact same reason) in an MMo though.

I hope they'll fix that with implanting NPC's to help the Order, to keep the numbers up. Otherwise, it's doomed I'm afraid.

Originally posted by hebeventijd

Chaos has more complete classes. That's why...

A 3 class Empire with ... a mage and ... a witch hunter .... Who wants to play with that???

Mythic doesn't know 70% of all warhammer miniatures players have an Empire block in their closet.

To me its clear : Mythic designers hardly played the minature game at all.

But of course 95% of the MMORPG players are not even interested in the miniatures game. Who cares.

Well the WH clubs care.

It surprises me every time I play at my club that interest of those Warhammer players is so low. You hardly find anyhting in the MMO that makes the Warhammer miniatures game so interesting.

If they had deleted the WP, it would have been  a complete disaster.

 

Chaos may have more classes, but the destruction and order sides have the same number. And the Mythic guys worked closely with Gamesworkshop when designing the game, originally having 250 classes.

Originally posted by jusomdude

Dwarves are dumb, elves are homosexuals, and humans are boring. Destruction races just have a mysterious lure to them, even the dark elves.

see all destruction players are mature

order ftw.

What's really amazing is the OP made all that up and so many of you fell for it, you might want to wait until the NDA is lifted before having said discussion.