General Discussion

I just had a look at the Tabula Rasa forums here, as i saw the game going cheap at Game(UK),the first thread i saw there, "How is the game NOW?" and it makes AoC look good.

My question is, if you have recently left AoC, what are you waiting for, or what have you gone back to?

NEW GAMES

I know WAR is coming soon and many are looking forward to it, however, they have made major cuts, and the game play and graphics are very WoW-ie. Also it is an unknown at the moment, as no one can tell what it will be like until release.

WOTLK, coming soon, but many are tired of WoW, this expansion may have a few new things, but if you were utterly tired of WoW before it will take you less than 3 months to get to 80 and see most of the content.

Aion and TCOSB are also up this year, do not know so much about them, but until a game actual releases it would be unwise to have full faith in them.

Any other new MMO?

OLD GAMES

Back to your old game, WoW, EQ2, VG, LOTROL GW etc?

Are you back to stay for a considerable amount of time or until one of the new games comes along?

QUIT MMOS

Found joy in another genre? FPS, RTS, simulations etc?

Changed paltform....... to PS3, Xbox 360 etc?

Hahaha, so you finally realized AoC sucks didn't you?

I'll be going over to WAR.

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I know WAR is coming soon and many are looking forward to it, however, they have made major cuts, and the game play and graphics are very WoW-ie. Also it is an unknown at the moment, as no one can tell what it will be like until release.

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The cut's were for the better. The 4 classes that got cut just couldn't be worked out well from a balance / fun perspective.

The cities that got cut got cut because it split the focus of RvR and made it much more like race vs race other then realm vs realm. The other RvR T4 zones have fortresses instead of cities now, and you'll need to take 2/3 of their forts to get to the city.

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VultureSkull 8/08/08 6:21:59 AM

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Vote for it here on the Golden Joystick Awards

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If you don't like it, and have come in to this thread, then just ignore this, thanks.

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Didn't take long did it?

I went back to EvE after 2 weeks of playing AoC. I actually liked AoC despite its shortcomings. The reason i quit is because i have become sick of the Leveling systems in MMORPGs. I dont have 8 hours a day to keep up with guildmates etc so i prefer to stick to the EvE style skills systems where i can log in and kill stuff then log out.

As for games im waiting on id say im excited about AION. It sounds very promising, sure its also a level based game but i still want to try it out. im not interested in WAR itl prob be a great game in its own right but i dont see much that entices me.

All new MMOs will fail since making a MMO had become too expensive. Companies will have to release their game too fast and will fail.

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Originally posted by Kilmar
All new MMOs will fail since making a MMO has become too expensive. Companies will have to release their game too fast and will fail.

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I disagree. For one, there are still plenty of large companies out there with plenty of cash making MMO's. Bioware is working on a KoTOR MMO, blizzard has WoW and is working on another one. Hell, Mythic has the financial power of EA backing them.

I think MMO gamers are jaded right now because we got two failures in a row (Vanguard and Age of Conan) which both seem to have tried for the same thing. Vanguard I could understand because Sigil just didn't know what to do -- but from what I understand Sony has it going well.

Age of Conan on the other hand is just getting ass raped by Funcom.

Originally posted by Kilmar

All new MMOs will fail since making a MMO had become too expensive. Companies will have to release their game too fast and will fail.

I disagree.  If you, the MMO Company, have $40 million dollars in your budget and you have a production schedule of 5 years from now to complete the game, it's your own fault if you try to cram $50 million dollars and 6 years worth of goodies into the game.

The reason why so many MMOs are facing this problem is management.  They are not managing time or resources.  They need to scale back, do what can be done, and save the extra stuff for expansions.

You simply cannot cram a size 14 ass in size 5 jeans.  It won't work and no one wants to see it anyway.

WAR for sure.

Who cares about wow-esqu graphics if it works.

I am really interested to play in a relatively more open world; public quests; meaningful world pvp. Plus a sense of epic mayhem.

I am worried about boring combat... it seems that has been improving, but we'll see.

Well I left just before subscriptions started for AOC. I really wanted the game to do well but obviously that did not happen for me. Two months later I gave Lord of the Rings Online a try and I'm a happy mmo player. The game is well polished, fun, lots of content and the community is great. I'm keeping my eye out on games such as Stargate Worlds, The Agency and Earthrise.

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Originally posted by Deathstrike2

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Originally posted by Kilmar

 

All new MMOs will fail since making a MMO had become too expensive. Companies will have to release their game too fast and will fail.

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I disagree.  If you, the MMO Company, have $40 million dollars in your budget and you have a production schedule of 5 years from now to complete the game, it's your own fault if you try to cram $50 million dollars and 6 years worth of goodies into the game.
The reason why so many MMOs are facing this problem is management.  They are not managing time or resources.  They need to scale back, do what can be done, and save the extra stuff for expansions.
You simply cannot cram a size 14 ass in size 5 jeans.  It won't work and no one wants to see it anyway.
 

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If you look at the games that have failed in the recent past they all have had this in common -- poor management and trying to do too much.

Dark and Light: some no name company tries making a HUGE WORLD and hails it as the best thing ever. If you're new start small.

Vanguard: Sigil tries to create a "true equal" to everquest, and just tries to put too much on the table at once. Between having a bitch of a time finding a sponsor, money problems and a pretty arrogant lead designer they were destined to fail. Now that its under control of Sony it's stablized.

Age of Conan: Funcom just has poor management skills and poor coders period. They took 5 years to try and make the game and I feel that they just did not have experienced coders for the job. They too I think tried to bite off more then they can chew, considering their last game was Anarchy Online.

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