How is posting negative comments about AOC any different from posting positive comments about AOC?

If we are not allowed to post negative comments about AOC after playing the game then why should the players who like the game be allowed to post positive comments about AOC? These forums are not the AOC-Wiki where people come to get the facts about the game, rather it a gaming forums where people log in to read about players opinions about games.

If I want to come to these forums and post my opinions about why I dislike AOC soo much then that is my right. You, the OP, has just as much right to post all of your positive opinions on these same forums.

It is not our job to hold back how we feel about a game, but instead it is the gaming companies job to make a game that will make players only want to list the positives about their game and not the negatives.

I have played many MMOs in the past. So I liked and some I didnt. Did I go on various forums slamming these games that I did not care for? No, I didnt. Why not? Because I knew what those unfavorable games were all about before I bought them so I wasnt surprized when I didnt care for them. Funcom released a half developed game to the public who were under the impression that the game was finnished. Yes, most MMOs these days get released too early but they are able to begin completion of their game very fast. AOC has not done that. All they seem to be doing is stalling for more time so gullible players keep forking out the $15 each month.

So, I guess what I am saying is that if we are not allowed to post our own opinions about the game than you are not allowed to say nice things about the game either, and for that matter, Funcom is not allowed to advertize their own game because we may view that as a positive spin of the game as well and we really just cant have that now can we?

Originally posted by Sevensodd

Think about it.

Not in my case, I had not read this forum before buying and had not read it either before I cancelled my subscription.

I'm sure there are thousands more like me who were just disappointed with the gameplay (or lack of gameplay).

Originally posted by Sevensodd

90% of the so called "hype" was passed along through forums.  99% of the "don't play this game" shit is passed along through forums.  How many people would have actually believed and expected a giant sparkling diamond the day it was released had it not been for forums?

I didn't really have anything to do with the forums before AoC was released. The "hype" came from the game description and videos on their official site. I started playing the game, and almost immediately realized that it sucked the big one. That is when I actually starting reading and participating in the forums.

Truly, honestly, this game just sucks.

Originally posted by Bodeus

nah, the forums may have hastened the destruction... the game/devs destroyed it.

QFT

The community was most definitely the downfall of AoC so far, but the developers are largely to blame. Alot of players were unsatisfied. Not being able to put their finger on why, they head to the forums to see what people are saying. If something someone else posted sings true to them, it reinforces the disdain that is slowly building. But that disdain has a source. The source may be different for different players, but something was wrong with the game to begin with. There are still alot of things wrong with the game. More than enough to choose from and find people who feel the same way.

Originally posted by Sevensodd

Originally posted by SignusM

Not forums, bad reputation. It happens to most games. If there was no line of communication between players how long could Funcom have held people captive in their web of lies? Not everyone knows the idustry well enough to read between the lines. I myself picked up on tiny hints and evidence that the game was going to be a mess, and stopped being excited for it a year or two ago. Its sadly happened before. The game destroyed itself.

 

destroyed itself?  What is so bad about the game?

If you are serious here.  TRULY Serious when you ask what is so bad about this game, then this conversation is over.

Originally posted by Palebane

The community was most definitely the downfall of AoC so far, but the developers are largely to blame. Alot of players were unsatisfied. Not being able to put their finger on why, they head to the forums to see what people are saying.

What in the hell are you talking about? Never being able to put their fingers on it they head to the forums? THEY HEADED TO THE FORUMS, posted their complaints and were promplty banned, warned and then banned or had their posts removed by an army of volunteer player/ moderators.  What I find even more upsetting is that once you cancel the game, even if you have 3 months of playtime left on your subscription, they remove your forum access.

 

If something someone else posted sings true to them, it reinforces the disdain that is slowly building. But that disdain has a source. The source may be different for different players, but something was wrong with the game to begin with. There are still alot of things wrong with the game. More than enough to choose from and find people who feel the same way.

The disdain arises from and is wholely created by funcoms initial misrepresentations of the game coupled with the decision by FUNCOM to patrol the forums with ever increasing FASCISM and ban everything and everyone that spoke about the REAL ISSUES THE game HAS!

So what IF the forums did destroy AoC?

People will post what they feel.

Forums work as intended.

I fail to see a problem here

Originally posted by Chill_Factor

Originally posted by FischerBlack

Originally posted by Sevensodd

90% of the so called "hype" was passed along through forums.  99% of the "don't play this game" shit is passed along through forums.  How many people would have actually believed and expected a giant sparkling diamond the day it was released had it not been for forums?

 

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

 

Guns don't kill people. Guys that come home early from work and find their wives in bed with another man kill people.

Don't talk in riddles tell us instead.

 ok im not trying to defenda bugged and unfinished game, neither will i defend funcom who showed great incompetense on thousand of points at this game.

but i think the op has a bit of truth there

the forum show angry people and it shows people with lots of time on their hand.
the regular joe that isnt a hardcore gamer 

if your a fan of the conan universe/ stories/ szene you can go into a store and either buy a rather mindless beat em up for the xbox or you buy aoc.

while aoc isnt the messiah of mmos nor a wow killer nor a game that you can play 20+h a week its still worth its money (at least for the free month or till ur 80) compared to the other conan games you can buy.

yet if you read the forums to inform yourselfe you will think this game is the worst game ever produced. it generates so much hate you could fuel 100 pits hells while at its core its a decent game especially if your into conan

Originally posted by craynlon

 ok im not trying to defenda bugged and unfinished game, neither will i defend funcom who showed great incompetense on thousand of points at this game.

but i think the op has a bit of truth there

the forum show angry people and it shows people with lots of time on their hand.
the regular joe that isnt a hardcore gamer 

if your a fan of the conan universe/ stories/ szene you can go into a store and either buy a rather mindless beat em up for the xbox or you buy aoc.

while aoc isnt the messiah of mmos nor a wow killer nor a game that you can play 20+h a week its still worth its money (at least for the free month or till ur 80) compared to the other conan games you can buy.

yet if you read the forums to inform yourselfe you will think this game is the worst game ever produced. it generates so much hate you could fuel 100 pits hells while at its core its a decent but not oerly great game especially if your into conan

The problem is that you cant keep playing Tortage, lvl to 80 or those things unless you pay a monthly fee. Buying a game to play the content you get in 30 days is just a waste of money no matter if you get a few hours of fun. The game need to be worth a monthly fee else stop having that fee.

With the fact that it BARELY runs on high end machines.
The networking backend feels like it was written by a first year developer.
PVP and combat in general are awefull in my opinion.
Its buggy as all hell.
The GM's are corrupt.
The developers dont care.
The company doesnt care.
The community seems to have the combined intelligence of a tick-tack.
There are a fair amount of vulnerabilities and exploits. ( Especially the speed/attack speed )
The game itself is a huge resource hog.
Etc, etc, etc...

Yes... the FORUMS are what destroyed this game.

 This thread is retarded. If negative forum postings can bring down a game then WoW would have zero players. The OP isn't completely wrong, but not for the reasons he lists: fanbois and apologists did more harm to AoC than disgruntled forumer players did. Remember when it was discovered that female characters had a slower melee attack than male characters and therefore did less damage? There were actually people on the official forums praising Funcom for making it realistic because in real life women aren't as strong as men...

instancing should be a f2p related thing. guildwars for example uses instances to realize different nation districts which make the game feel huge and not for load balancing like in aoc.

though the inappropriate marekting strategy was annoying i wouldn't say aoc is a bad game.  it's just less then the pieces it is made of.

Originally posted by pdxgeek

 This thread is retarded. If negative forum postings can bring down a game then WoW would have zero players. The OP isn't completely wrong, but not for the reasons he lists: fanbois and apologists did more harm to AoC than disgruntled forumer players did. Remember when it was discovered that female characters had a slower melee attack than male characters and therefore did less damage? There were actually people on the official forums praising Funcom for making it realistic because in real life women aren't as strong as men...

They apparently have never met a real woman lol... of then again most of them have more than likely never touched one either.

Originally posted by altair4

Originally posted by craynlon

 ok im not trying to defenda bugged and unfinished game, neither will i defend funcom who showed great incompetense on thousand of points at this game.

but i think the op has a bit of truth there

the forum show angry people and it shows people with lots of time on their hand.
the regular joe that isnt a hardcore gamer 

if your a fan of the conan universe/ stories/ szene you can go into a store and either buy a rather mindless beat em up for the xbox or you buy aoc.

while aoc isnt the messiah of mmos nor a wow killer nor a game that you can play 20+h a week its still worth its money (at least for the free month or till ur 80) compared to the other conan games you can buy.

yet if you read the forums to inform yourselfe you will think this game is the worst game ever produced. it generates so much hate you could fuel 100 pits hells while at its core its a decent but not oerly great game especially if your into conan

 

The problem is that you cant keep playing Tortage, lvl to 80 or those things unless you pay a monthly fee. Buying a game to play the content you get in 30 days is just a waste of money no matter if you get a few hours of fun. The game need to be worth a monthly fee else stop having that fee.

i do believe that as a casual gamer playing maybe 12h/week u wont be 80 in 1 month, ull probably have 3month or so if you dont rush. even tough i find the content small compared to other mmos i find it ok compared to regular games taht you pay about the same money.

the problem is funcom didnt produce a mmorpg really but rather a normal game with decent single player value, pretty good conan lore, rather bad bugs on some systems and a hint of multiplayer at endgame but to litte to keep any "serious" mmoer playing the game.

thats the biggest question id ask in an interview with funcom.
with their experience, didnt they see that the mmo crowd would be 80 in 30-50 days having nothing to do but a rather tiny collection of raids ?

Originally posted by craynlon

Originally posted by altair4

Originally posted by craynlon

 ok im not trying to defenda bugged and unfinished game, neither will i defend funcom who showed great incompetense on thousand of points at this game.

but i think the op has a bit of truth there

the forum show angry people and it shows people with lots of time on their hand.
the regular joe that isnt a hardcore gamer 

if your a fan of the conan universe/ stories/ szene you can go into a store and either buy a rather mindless beat em up for the xbox or you buy aoc.

while aoc isnt the messiah of mmos nor a wow killer nor a game that you can play 20+h a week its still worth its money (at least for the free month or till ur 80) compared to the other conan games you can buy.

yet if you read the forums to inform yourselfe you will think this game is the worst game ever produced. it generates so much hate you could fuel 100 pits hells while at its core its a decent but not oerly great game especially if your into conan

 

The problem is that you cant keep playing Tortage, lvl to 80 or those things unless you pay a monthly fee. Buying a game to play the content you get in 30 days is just a waste of money no matter if you get a few hours of fun. The game need to be worth a monthly fee else stop having that fee.

i do believe that as a casual gamer playing maybe 12h/week u wont be 80 in 1 month, ull probably have 3month or so if you dont rush. even tough i find the content small compared to other mmos i find it ok compared to regular games taht you pay about the same money.

the problem is funcom didnt produce a mmorpg really but rather a normal game with decent single player value, pretty good conan lore, rather bad bugs on some systems and a hint of multiplayer at endgame but to litte to keep any "serious" mmoer playing the game.

thats the biggest question id ask in an interview with funcom.
with their experience, didnt they see that the mmo crowd would be 80 in 30-50 days having nothing to do but a rather tiny collection of raids ?

I played for 3 months and was level 63 I think when I canceled my account.  This is in part due to the fact that my play time, per week, fell off exponentially as the patches got exponentially worse and worse.

If this was true, then WoW would have been a game of the past along time ago.

Originally posted by Sevensodd

What shit storm?  That some people crashed while playing?  That it needed some tweaking?  That DX10 wasn't available?  The only unhappy customers were the ones that expected a shiny diamond, like a mmorpg that has been out for years.

When highly advertised, on-the-box parts of the game are not actually in, that's not people being mad about the game not being a 'shiny diamond', that's people mad because Funcom has committed fraud by claiming to be selling a game with X and Y in it and Y is not in it.

Well I agree with the OP aswell..and have once written a post about this myself.

But I think it's more this forum that has the mindset "to kill a game!"..

Sure people are angry, even thou I do not agree with them, constructive critique is ALWAYS a good source for repair.

But in this forum it's mostly only bullcrap, It's like a competition of who dictates the best Age of Conan hate post of them all.

/Junker