Playing game since release and still enjoy it and yes it have client stability issue, it lack meaningful end game (sieging was fixed recently .. but still no PvP XP) and they did not deliver DX10 at release.
 

Do I think they did great job:
Release was almost flawless ( only 2 games i remember that they had that good release ( LOTRO, CoH)
With every patch they fix some stuff and they broke some ... critical one even.
The game is less optimized now then it was at release.
 

As for failur well it did fail its not WoW killer or uber main stream MMO, it still beats LOTRO and EVE subs by 2x and most likely within 1 or 2 months it will have same ammount as those two MMO's.

Few funny things:
You see people screaming omg omg direct X 10 is missing well my WoW manuals from 2004 have section about battle grounds i dont remember them when I started to play.


As far as the content go I can say the same yes end game is boring as there is not much to do, except raids and now sieging but thats it. The WoW was pretty unfinishhed too at majority of things came way later -> now some are screaming yea that was back in 2004 the market is diffrend now and I agree in 2008 one would expect more polishing and finished MMO.

But the funny part is those that are bashing AoC now how unfinished it is have double standards for WaR you can see bunch of post from same players ( lots of those with failcom avatars too )  where they explain WoW had several years to get there etc...
 

Then we have those comments:
Check offical forums too everyone is whining and complaning there you see lots of negative posts etc.. followed by they delete all negative posts and ban everyone .. yea sure

I posted bunch of negative posts and so far I did not get banned, howcome ?

p.s. I play AoC but I would not suggest anyone to buy it at this state, rather wait for a month or two and see.
( if you really need something maybe you should check WaR or any of old MMO's ... i heard Vanguard was decent now .. it was pile of crap at release and i really felt scamed by SOE like haters are feeling scamed now by Funcom )

Is that your last scream before the boat sinks?

Originally posted by Alewis

Before anyone flames me... I have never played AoC, I have it on order, I will give it a try, But I for one am getting sick of all these "AoC Fails" "AoC sucks"
You have your opinions, To other people the game my be what they want, Just because someone likes it, You call them Fanbois or whatever.
Soo putting it that way, You play your game you like are you a fanboy for that too? I'm sure you are. Because nothing can beat that game can it?
AoC i'm willing to give it a try, If I don't like it, I wouldn't spam it all over the forums, That's just childish. If you don't like it, Keep it to yourself, I visit these forums like virtually everyday and I see ALOT of AoC flames and i' getting annoyed with them.
I persoanlly think the mods here should just straight up delete them with no question. Comparing WoW and AoC is rubbish too, They are 2 different games. May look the same, But how does that make it the same game? "AoC vs WoW" this is total bullshit. "OMG AoC is a CLONE of WoW!"
Just please people stop with all these useless post, AND no i'm not part of AoC team, I'm not a AoC fanboi. Before you lot accuse me. Infact i'm nothing to do with it.

I would not begrudge you your right to post on a position opposite of those who do not like the game or the company but at the same time I can't agree with your attempts to silence anyone elses opinion either.

I respect that you are willing to make up your own mind about the game as I'm sure most of the opponents of failcom ultimately do as well (though some would think if no one spent money on these half ass products companies would stop doing these things).

In conclusion I just want to say I actually hope you find what you're looking for in AoC only because I would not wish for someone who shared interests similar to my own to be let down as I and others have been,but likewise you would do well to avoid the posts if they bother you so much and stop trying to control the opinions of others simply because you don't share the same view.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by dcsurfer731

I got AoC the day it came out, i dont feel cheated, lied to and im still playing AoC enjoying it (No im not a fan boy). But look what I think the OP is trying to get across is if you dont like a game its fine but dont spam about. AoC is a good game but it is buggy and sure dosent have DX10 but it has awesome potental.

 

Some people can't help themselves like the guy who joined 4 days ago with 100 posts of hate for hate already.

But carefull, apparently some people think the game is dead and people like yourself are a minority.

Yeah and you guys should actually be worried if people hate this game so much they can post hate about it 100 times in four days that speaks volumes as to the overall state of this game it sucks and people are venting as bad if not worse than the SWG fiasco

Yeah but the biggest problem with your line of thinking is that no one the op Avery or yourself has the right to tell people when they have had enough  and when they can or can't post, most simple solution is to avoid reading what you know already is going to be a flame.

Everyone stop the AOC flaming , sure, jus tells us to shut up, thats a step in the right direction lol.

Whats wrong no one left in whitesands to gank? Run out of victims, and come to dominate us?

Jus make a female char , an gawk her in you char select for a couple months, christmas will send you plenty of people to bully.

or if PvP aint the thing, well.......you can fill your time by trolling forums and attack peeps you deem as flamers.

Oh too late ...sry

Originally posted by Alewis

Before anyone flames me... I have never played AoC, I have it on order, I will give it a try, But I for one am getting sick of all these "AoC Fails" "AoC sucks"
You have your opinions, To other people the game my be what they want, Just because someone likes it, You call them Fanbois or whatever.
Soo putting it that way, You play your game you like are you a fanboy for that too? I'm sure you are. Because nothing can beat that game can it?
AoC i'm willing to give it a try, If I don't like it, I wouldn't spam it all over the forums, That's just childish. If you don't like it, Keep it to yourself, I visit these forums like virtually everyday and I see ALOT of AoC flames and i' getting annoyed with them.
I persoanlly think the mods here should just straight up delete them with no question. Comparing WoW and AoC is rubbish too, They are 2 different games. May look the same, But how does that make it the same game? "AoC vs WoW" this is total bullshit. "OMG AoC is a CLONE of WoW!"
Just please people stop with all these useless post, AND no i'm not part of AoC team, I'm not a AoC fanboi. Before you lot accuse me. Infact i'm nothing to do with it.

I highlighted the point of emphasis and where my shots will be impacting.

You never played AoC... well, those of us complaining and ranting about AoC and Failcom **did** play AoC, alot of us (including myself) having been there at Day 1.

You have no experience with the game.  We do.  We've seen what's gone wrong and actions that have not taken place in rectifying the game's problems.

We'll flame those people in Failcom as much as we want.  The FC devs give monkeys smashing at keyboards a bad name.

Edit to add:  It's also quite fair to contrast any MMO to another.  Because these MMOs are **competitors** to each other, vying for our hard earned cash and our valuable time.  That is the fate of every MMO when it comes out, it WILL be compared to it's competition, even if the competition has already dug its roots and is well established.

A Fanboy is not someone who simply loves a game, its someone who blindly loves a BAD game while the majority know it's crap.  They will not be swayed no matter how much logic you throw at them.  It's very stubborn behavior.

Those with open minds liked the game then slowly saw it for what it was and our opinion was then changed - we accept facts as they are laid out in front of us, not ignore them like a blind religious zealot.

Originally posted by Hydrakana

A Fanboy is not someone who simply loves a game, its someone who blindly loves a BAD game while the majority know it's crap.  They will not be swayed no matter how much logic you throw at them.  It's very stubborn behavior.

Those with open minds liked the game then slowly saw it for what it was and our opinion was then changed - we accept facts as they are laid out in front of us, not ignore them like a blind religious zealot.

 

Agree.

Originally posted by Rudydog

Originally posted by Arthineas

Originally posted by Alewis

Before anyone flames me... I have never played AoC, I have it on order, I will give it a try, But I for one am getting sick of all these "AoC Fails" "AoC sucks"
You have your opinions, To other people the game my be what they want, Just because someone likes it, You call them Fanbois or whatever.
Soo putting it that way, You play your game you like are you a fanboy for that too? I'm sure you are. Because nothing can beat that game can it?
AoC i'm willing to give it a try, If I don't like it, I wouldn't spam it all over the forums, That's just childish. If you don't like it, Keep it to yourself, I visit these forums like virtually everyday and I see ALOT of AoC flames and i' getting annoyed with them.
I persoanlly think the mods here should just straight up delete them with no question. Comparing WoW and AoC is rubbish too, They are 2 different games. May look the same, But how does that make it the same game? "AoC vs WoW" this is total bullshit. "OMG AoC is a CLONE of WoW!"
Just please people stop with all these useless post, AND no i'm not part of AoC team, I'm not a AoC fanboi. Before you lot accuse me. Infact i'm nothing to do with it.

 

No flames from me Alewis.  I agree with what you said 100%.  I do not mind someone expressing an opinion but the amount of anti AoC spam on these forums has become ridiculous. 

I really do not see the point  of all these posts.  If you do not like a game the solution is simple.  Uninstall it and move on with your life. 

I have played a few bad games myself but you will never find me spamming it on a forum.  If someone asks my opinion, I will share what I feel are the pros and cons of a game in an intelligent manner. 

Maybe instead of deleting all the anti threads a better solution would be to consolidate all the threads to one complaint thread or section.

 

So in your opinion we should all just shut up and leave it at that? If so why are you even posting? Why dont you shutup. Your post is as useless as any post on these forums.

Cause we should all stop posting.... thats the almighty answer to AOC.

"Please would everyone just stop posting about AOC!!"

yup sounds good, you sir are just another rediculous post amoung all of mine and everyone elses.

Gratz well done and thanks to adding to nothing constructive. You answer is put your head in the sand and move on.

Your post defies itself and contradicts, well done another mindless post.

The sole problem here is the game is failed, even on their own moderated boards there is nothing constructive.

My idea of message boards is you go there to find out things.... all you get with AOC is rage and ranting. Wonder why that is?

Well first of all I never said that everyone should just "shut up and leave it at that".   I said that "I do not mind someone expressing an opinion but the amount of anti AoC spam on these forums has become ridiculous." If you had the mental capacity to read past the second sentence you would have known that. 

Seriously I do not even mind some negative posts but when you see the same immature, unintelligent stuff posted over and over.  Its gets a little old after a while. 

Like I said personally I think that the best solution would be to have a disgruntled AoC player section on these forums where people can go vent.  And have a section where people can go to get information about the game free from negative posts.  Kind of like what SWG has.

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

To the OP:

Problem with posting here on the MMORPG.com forums for AoC is if you actually like the game it strikes a bad nerve with the naysayers. 

The irony of this is that the OP created this thread specifically to tell people to stop speaking negatively of the game 'cause he's "tired of seeing it".

As Maynard Keenan wrote:
"Soap-box house of cards and glass, so don't be tossing your stones around..."

The door swings both ways. The devoted fans are equally intolerant of any naysaying, calling anyone with a negative opinion a hater, or telling them to "gtfo", stop posting, etc. etc. - even if the opinions stated are well stated, well supported and not a flame.

So please.. let's dispense with the sanctimony, yes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNZ2ddcYY0&feature=related

Originally posted by Hydrakana

A Fanboy is not someone who simply loves a game, its someone who blindly loves a BAD game while the majority know it's crap.  They will not be swayed no matter how much logic you throw at them.  It's very stubborn behavior.

Those with open minds liked the game then slowly saw it for what it was and our opinion was then changed - we accept facts as they are laid out in front of us, not ignore them like a blind religious zealot.

 

So true... and totally off-topic, just like 80% of the answers in this thread (yeah, all of you wondering if I'm talking about your post or not), basically just demonstrating how insightful the OP is.

But you all still don't get it. So I suggest that you open a wiki, or a blog, or even a facebook channel where you can rant all day about AOC. Don't forget to post the URL in this thread so we can read your brilliant and redundant demonstrations. You should also send private messages to the OP, since he really doesn't want to understand how bad the game is. He's asking for more, it's obvious. You should add more posts, more arguments to this thread so he finally understand.

And, please, once for all, learn the meaning of the word "FLOOD", and since you're at it, check the word "SPAM".

Yes, even when you say that the sky is blue, when you say it a hunderd times, it becomes flood. Oh, it's still true, but it's flood. I don't want to read flood in the forums, the OP don't want it too. And you ?

By the way, saying that AOC is crap or calling me a fanboi isn't an argument to this message.

Originally posted by rosco

Originally posted by Hydrakana

A Fanboy is not someone who simply loves a game, its someone who blindly loves a BAD game while the majority know it's crap.  They will not be swayed no matter how much logic you throw at them.  It's very stubborn behavior.

Those with open minds liked the game then slowly saw it for what it was and our opinion was then changed - we accept facts as they are laid out in front of us, not ignore them like a blind religious zealot.

 

 

So true... and totally off-topic, just like 80% of the answers in this thread (yeah, all of you wondering if I'm talking about your post or not), basically just demonstrating how insightful the OP is.

 

But you all still don't get it. So I suggest that you open a wiki, or a blog, or even a facebook channel where you can rant all day about AOC. Don't forget to post the URL in this thread so we can read your brilliant and redundant demonstrations. You should also send private messages to the OP, since he really doesn't want to understand how bad the game is. He's asking for more, it's obvious. You should add more posts, more arguments to this thread so he finally understand.

And, please, once for all, learn the meaning of the word "FLOOD", and since you're at it, check the word "SPAM".

Yes, even when you say that the sky is blue, when you say it a hunderd times, it becomes flood. Oh, it's still true, but it's flood. I don't want to read flood in the forums, the OP don't want it too. And you ?

 

By the way, saying that AOC is crap or calling me a fanboi isn't an argument to this message.

Again, this is a free forum. We don't need to go open a wiki or get a blog, we're fine right here. So looks like you did all that typing for nothing.
 

But here, have a cookie so you don't cry too much:

AoC is the best game ever, there is not one bug in it and everything is polished and working as intended and if you see someone mentioning a bug its not its a feature. /scarsm

AoC have bugs and missing content but I like it enjoy it and still play it.

To bad I dont love AoC as much as haters hate it so I dont plan to open blog and write how great is, I dont plan to spend most of the times on forums and opening new threads about same shit over and over again etc... what I plan to do is go back in game and spend some time playing.

p.s. Looking forward to replys.
 

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

Originally posted by rosco

Originally posted by Hydrakana

A Fanboy is not someone who simply loves a game, its someone who blindly loves a BAD game while the majority know it's crap.  They will not be swayed no matter how much logic you throw at them.  It's very stubborn behavior.

Those with open minds liked the game then slowly saw it for what it was and our opinion was then changed - we accept facts as they are laid out in front of us, not ignore them like a blind religious zealot.

 

 

So true... and totally off-topic, just like 80% of the answers in this thread (yeah, all of you wondering if I'm talking about your post or not), basically just demonstrating how insightful the OP is.

 

But you all still don't get it. So I suggest that you open a wiki, or a blog, or even a facebook channel where you can rant all day about AOC. Don't forget to post the URL in this thread so we can read your brilliant and redundant demonstrations. You should also send private messages to the OP, since he really doesn't want to understand how bad the game is. He's asking for more, it's obvious. You should add more posts, more arguments to this thread so he finally understand.

And, please, once for all, learn the meaning of the word "FLOOD", and since you're at it, check the word "SPAM".

Yes, even when you say that the sky is blue, when you say it a hunderd times, it becomes flood. Oh, it's still true, but it's flood. I don't want to read flood in the forums, the OP don't want it too. And you ?

 

By the way, saying that AOC is crap or calling me a fanboi isn't an argument to this message.

Again, this is a free forum. We don't need to go open a wiki or get a blog, we're fine right here. So looks like you did all that typing for nothing.
 

But here, have a cookie so you don't cry too much:

Free forum ? orly ? Ever noticed the litte "report" link in all the posts ? This forum isn't your toy, kid. Check the rules of conduct that you've signed:

Trolling

• Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
  For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.

Is it clear enough or not ? But maybe the forum's admin would like one of your cookies too ?

Originally posted by rosco

 

Free forum ? orly ? Ever noticed the litte "report" link in all the posts ? This forum isn't your toy, kid. Check the rules of conduct that you've signed:

 

Trolling

• Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
  For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.

Is it clear enough or not ? But maybe the forum's admin would like one of your cookies too ?

You say "This forum isn't your toy, kid", and you think your not a troll? People have freedom to express their views in a honest and constructive way, even if you label it bad or good. The truth is Funcom ignored so many players, and thats where I think most people got their rage from. Its quite naturally, you can not expect people to be happy if they where completely pushed away and ignored.

kal vas flam @ AoC

Originally posted by Alewis

Before anyone flames me... I have never played AoC, I have it on order, I will give it a try, But I for one am getting sick of all these "AoC Fails" "AoC sucks"
You have your opinions, To other people the game my be what they want, Just because someone likes it, You call them Fanbois or whatever.
Soo putting it that way, You play your game you like are you a fanboy for that too? I'm sure you are. Because nothing can beat that game can it?
AoC i'm willing to give it a try, If I don't like it, I wouldn't spam it all over the forums, That's just childish. If you don't like it, Keep it to yourself, I visit these forums like virtually everyday and I see ALOT of AoC flames and i' getting annoyed with them.
I persoanlly think the mods here should just straight up delete them with no question. Comparing WoW and AoC is rubbish too, They are 2 different games. May look the same, But how does that make it the same game? "AoC vs WoW" this is total bullshit. "OMG AoC is a CLONE of WoW!"
Just please people stop with all these useless post, AND no i'm not part of AoC team, I'm not a AoC fanboi. Before you lot accuse me. Infact i'm nothing to do with it.

So it bothers you that people who have played the game and aren't satisfied with it let their frusttrations be known, huh? Well imagine all of the thouands of us who were givin reviews from sites that had been paid off by FailCom to give AoC a decent review. Or reviews that were spoon-fed only a portion of the game and wrote a full review based on that small portion of the game. Or all the outright lies by FailCom.

Wether you want to believe it or not, the reason there are so many "haters" is because the game sucks. We all bought the game, and after being lied to, recieving poor customer service, and playing an unfinished, poorly done game, are now labled "haters" when we post the truth about our experiences in the game. 

I wish I had gotten the info on AoC that you are bitching about, it would have saved me $50 and time wasted playing this garbage. You don't know how good you got it, kid.

Originally posted by ackmhed

So it bothers you that people who have played the game and aren't satisfied with it let their frusttrations be known, huh? Well imagine all of the thouands of us who were givin reviews from sites that had been paid off by FailCom to give AoC a decent review. Or reviews that were spoon-fed only a portion of the game and wrote a full review based on that small portion of the game. Or all the outright lies by FailCom.

Wether you want to believe it or not, the reason there are so many "haters" is because the game sucks. We all bought the game, and after being lied to, recieving poor customer service, and playing an unfinished, poorly done game, are now labled "haters" when we post the truth about our experiences in the game. 

I wish I had gotten the info on AoC that you are bitching about, it would have saved me $50 and time wasted playing this garbage. You don't know how good you got it, kid.

Well you do know that majority of players actually liked the levels 1 to 20 and you are one of those players that did not like game from the start so I dont know what they lied to you and what did you actually test.

Most of the "hate" post (not all) began a month after release and players just did not have anything to do once they hit level 80. A week or two after that funcom started to patch game twice per week and they did broke a lot of stuff at that point even more hate posts appeared.