Like the topic says I play a girl toon in the mmo's I play,and , i;m a guy. I know i;m not the only one that does this, but the level I take it to makes me wonder if I need to have my head examined.

You see not only do I present the persona of a female player in cyberspace but I make my companions believe that im also a chick in the "real" world. I have stories that begin with my childhood all the way to the present; complete with fake parents, schools, jobs ect.  I even email photos of women I find online to make things even more believable. "None of those model photos for me, those aren't believable at all...I take them from other folks family galleries.

Now you might ask...why. would you do such a thing?  The simple answer,  is greed. I hook lonely men into falling in love with me online so that they will buy me great items in game. Heck I even let them use my account to level me while im at work. I just do the fun things while im online..no grinding for me..my "boyfriends" do it for me.

So I guess im wondering if i'm alone in these twisted endeavors; and is it really all that unethical that I do this? These guys think they are talking to a cute girl and derive great pleasure from doing so. Heck I even throw in a little dirty talk every once in a while.

You're the reason for:

MMORPG = Many Men Online Roleplaying Girls.

I guess if you'd go THAT far for free items and no work, nothing is unethical. Real girls manipulate and control us guys too much as it is, now guys are doing it to other guys through MMOs? What has the world come to !

If you get too deep into this you might actually start perfering men over women.

It might not be ethical, but it occurs to me that if a person is weak-minded enough to fall for it (and you, like a leg-humping puppy) and do all that for you just because they think you're female, perhaps they deserve it.

I done that once I played a girl ALT in SWG back in the day because if guys think you're a girl they give you free stuff and discounts of goods, I got quite alot of stuff and used a voice changer program on TS so they actually believed me with some pictures of some model.

Only game I ever done it in though.

Oh yeh Female Twi'lek Dancer in the Cantina of Bestine on Bria :D

wow that is quite the confession.   everyone to their own way I guess.   Just don't be the news report of some guy killing you after they found out some how.

I did the same a couple times (and by couple times, i mean a couple hours in a toon, then stopping).

It is quite sad the 'level' to wich men fall when they think they are hiting on a girl.

Nop, never even stated ever i was girl, never lied, if anyone asked i clearly said i was men, still, some guys, just assume i am girl, and, most stupid, they assume i WANT something with them.

Not only that, but sometimes i saw those "naked elf ladies dancing" (or any race, any game) and people drooling over them. Even when others saying they are men, they said so themselfs, they assume they are men, the droolers keep drooling over the pixels, paying gold/items for the "show"...

I pity the fools.

Yeah if you're actually feeling guilty, give yourself a break it's just a game after all. People role play in real life anyway... considering you're in a game and not actually damaging anyone I think it's fine. You're not really even scamming them it's not like your stealing from them (from what you've said), you're just manipulating them.

So worst case scenario, you have Antisocial Personality disorder in which case having your head checked won't do much. But if you had ASPD you wouldn't be feeling guilty ;)

If people are stupid enough to all themselves to be taken advantage of like that, they deserve it! Next time send them a picture of a 5 year old girl and then you could even sue them for some real life money lol!

I believe it can be argued that you do this because it fulfills a private fantasy.

Originally posted by damond5031

Like the topic says I play a girl toon in the mmo's I play,and , i;m a guy. I know i;m not the only one that does this, but the level I take it to makes me wonder if I need to have my head examined.

You see not only do I present the persona of a female player in cyberspace but I make my companions believe that im also a chick in the "real" world. I have stories that begin with my childhood all the way to the present; complete with fake parents, schools, jobs ect.  I even email photos of women I find online to make things even more believable. "None of those model photos for me, those aren't believable at all...I take them from other folks family galleries.

Now you might ask...why. would you do such a thing?  The simple answer,  is greed. I hook lonely men into falling in love with me online so that they will buy me great items in game. Heck I even let them use my account to level me while im at work. I just do the fun things while im online..no grinding for me..my "boyfriends" do it for me.

So I guess im wondering if i'm alone in these twisted endeavors; and is it really all that unethical that I do this? These guys think they are talking to a cute girl and derive great pleasure from doing so. Heck I even throw in a little dirty talk every once in a while.

Umm...yes most people play female chars but that's just for teh boobies. But...you're taking alot more serious then for teh boobies. This is...strange then other people I know who played female toons...I think if I were to do such a thing it would be to impress my fact that most humans IMO are....well stupid. But you're doing this, prolly not due to greed but mainly because you like to put no effort in things? But...you took this too far lmao, what would you think they'd do if they find out?...Couldn't they see your RL Name in your account? It's alittle more strange than unethical...maybe alot of both...But I'm sure you're not the only one...which is ver very odd....now you encouraged me to just stay 'cyber-friends' with people...I thank you for that but now...shiver

If the people are falling for it, does that not speak volumes about what kind of person they are?  Perhaps you're fulfilling a needed role for those people?

I've had alts that were female and I've had people hit on me assuming that I was a chick but I just tell them that I have a crank and they quickly go about their way.  Then again if you can get away with duping those people into giving you items then go for it.  It mirrors the real world where there are conartists and cheaters and liars that are doing what they do because of greed, and I'd think this was no different in a game world.  I've never given anybody anything simply because I thought they were a girl or even if I knew they were one.  I've given things to lowbies that I no longer use and think they'd get more benifit out of then selling them to npc's but that's about as far as it goes.

It is unethical, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Originally posted by damond5031

Like the topic says I play a girl toon in the mmo's I play,and , i;m a guy. I know i;m not the only one that does this, but the level I take it to makes me wonder if I need to have my head examined.

You see not only do I present the persona of a female player in cyberspace but I make my companions believe that im also a chick in the "real" world. I have stories that begin with my childhood all the way to the present; complete with fake parents, schools, jobs ect.  I even email photos of women I find online to make things even more believable. "None of those model photos for me, those aren't believable at all...I take them from other folks family galleries.

Now you might ask...why. would you do such a thing?  The simple answer,  is greed. I hook lonely men into falling in love with me online so that they will buy me great items in game. Heck I even let them use my account to level me while im at work. I just do the fun things while im online..no grinding for me..my "boyfriends" do it for me.

So I guess im wondering if i'm alone in these twisted endeavors; and is it really all that unethical that I do this? These guys think they are talking to a cute girl and derive great pleasure from doing so. Heck I even throw in a little dirty talk every once in a while.

   Head examined? Probly not but you should go ahead and come out of the closet because at the LEAST your bi-sexual anyone that would dirty talk with another guy is at the least half gay you can sit and claim its just for the items and money and easy lvling but truth is you like to control men and it gets you off its for your own lil gay fantasy my advice is come on out of the closet rather than keep pretending your not gay.

Originally posted by damond5031

Like the topic says I play a girl toon in the mmo's I play,and , i;m a guy. I know i;m not the only one that does this, but the level I take it to makes me wonder if I need to have my head examined.

You see not only do I present the persona of a female player in cyberspace but I make my companions believe that im also a chick in the "real" world. I have stories that begin with my childhood all the way to the present; complete with fake parents, schools, jobs ect.  I even email photos of women I find online to make things even more believable. "None of those model photos for me, those aren't believable at all...I take them from other folks family galleries.

Now you might ask...why. would you do such a thing?  The simple answer,  is greed. I hook lonely men into falling in love with me online so that they will buy me great items in game. Heck I even let them use my account to level me while im at work. I just do the fun things while im online..no grinding for me..my "boyfriends" do it for me.

So I guess im wondering if i'm alone in these twisted endeavors; and is it really all that unethical that I do this? These guys think they are talking to a cute girl and derive great pleasure from doing so. Heck I even throw in a little dirty talk every once in a while.

Everything you describe sounds like it makes perfect sense, and constitutes normal and healthy online behavior.  I wonder why I have not done the same myself.

Originally posted by pencilrick

Originally posted by damond5031

Like the topic says I play a girl toon in the mmo's I play,and , i;m a guy. I know i;m not the only one that does this, but the level I take it to makes me wonder if I need to have my head examined.

You see not only do I present the persona of a female player in cyberspace but I make my companions believe that im also a chick in the "real" world. I have stories that begin with my childhood all the way to the present; complete with fake parents, schools, jobs ect.  I even email photos of women I find online to make things even more believable. "None of those model photos for me, those aren't believable at all...I take them from other folks family galleries.

Now you might ask...why. would you do such a thing?  The simple answer,  is greed. I hook lonely men into falling in love with me online so that they will buy me great items in game. Heck I even let them use my account to level me while im at work. I just do the fun things while im online..no grinding for me..my "boyfriends" do it for me.

So I guess im wondering if i'm alone in these twisted endeavors; and is it really all that unethical that I do this? These guys think they are talking to a cute girl and derive great pleasure from doing so. Heck I even throw in a little dirty talk every once in a while.

 

Everything you describe sounds like it makes perfect sense, and constitutes normal and healthy online behavior.  I wonder why I have not done the same myself.

I know why I havent, theres a little thing out there called Karma, even when you think youve gotten away with something underhanded, you really havent.

My question is, obviously you know taking advantage of other people is wrong, everyone knows that, why post about it here? Are you proud of it? Im confused.

Yeah ive played female toons in many mmo's.

But i dont act like a chick.  I would just rather stare at a woman than a man...

That's not really that unethical...

...It's just disgusting.  You're taking it to a level that can seed out into your real life if you continue to pursue this so emphatically. 

I love this topic... it seems to pop up every 3-4 months or so.

Those that are with the OP see these games as role playing and absolute pretending, while those that are repulsed by the OP's position see their game characters as extensions of themselves and that virtual world as a moral place with the same good-and-evil that they see in the real world. Then there are many who can see and participate in both at the same time, or flip-flop between them...

imo, there is no really right or wrong way to play a fantasy game. Lieing, manipulating, stealing, backstabbing, ninja looting, harassing, etc are all things that make up this sort of evil side of an mmo community (people pretending on a server). Unlike many, i think these things need to be encouraged. Then all the good side behaviors will exist and have meaning as well, (loyalty, friending, charity, respect, etc).

Then we get to see all these motifs play themselves out in some virtual space.  Pretty cool and educational imo. And nobody goes to jail.  Instead of these artificial definitions of good and evil (horde or alliance) that are nothing but some choice at character creation time, I think the better MMOs are the ones that let people naturally form into clicks of ninja-looters, con-artists, defenders-of-the-weak, helpers-of -the-poor... and that people's actions determine good side or bad side... not many games have gone that direction imo, and that's a little sad...

just my 2 cents..

The thing is, I see myself as a normal person in RL. I never really thought about how weird living out another life online was to the extent that I was doing it until recently. So I was hoping some of you guys did this too, which would make me feel a bit more "normal". 

I noticed that someone said something about my behavior possibly being  a projection of a suppressed homosexual desire; but I im not gay as far as I know. I would know right ?

Sometimes you don't know until you wake up with a sore ***

i think i have said enough here xD

move along

but seriously, if you do it to that extent, you may just be "exploring" in a way. And atleast over the internet it won't change your real life, like it would if you experimented in person.