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8/11/08 8:44:38 AM#41
Originally posted by eccoton
Completely agree. Even on Splitpaw (EU server) the population is adequate. Not high, but adequate. Ingame Economy is healthy. Even my girlfriend who started playing the game half a year ago (on very casual level) and has a great time as provisioner cooking stuff and putting them on trader to see it being sold pretty quick. A server population is barren the moment nothing sells on the Trader anymore. And so far (at least on Splitpaw) stuff sellls through all level still! From Tier1 up to Tier8. Cheers |
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Arremus
Novice Member
Joined: 3/08/04
"... One crowded hour of glorious life, |
8/11/08 10:29:32 AM#42
Eccoton, sure I am guilty of agreeing with the "The population is low" comments, having not played in a few months, and I do appologise.
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8/12/08 7:21:31 PM#43
Originally posted by eccoton Yup you are right RoK did unbalance armor. How was that dire? You also said it, SOE revamp the other armor to fix the issue. Which they did. Now I realize not everyone like RoK. It was not as good as EoF I totally agree with that. However RoK did not ruin the game. It added a ton more things to do. SOE has a history of failed attempts with their games but they are handling EQ2 very well. Regular updates and expansions since release have show SOE is active in developing this game and not in just survival maintenance mode. I have no Idea how long EQ2 will last but my opinion is it is not going away any time soon. It took valuable time away from getting the rest of the game right thats how it made it dire,apart from the endless boring quests there was in there (this is coming from a quester with the best part of 2000 under his belt on my main toon) there was little to no variety in them,the ridulus faction grinding where you could kill one faction while doing thier quests at the same time..it was messy and still is dress it up any way you want ROK was bad for the game..i dont think they've had such a promo after the other xpacs have they? no they didnt,they had something great with EOF and missed the goalposts so much with ROK its taken the dev the best part of a year to sort it out.
The game i agree isnt in survival mode as you put it but nor is it thriving as IMO should have,as i say maybe its time has indeed past for that to happen it is after all almost 4 years old now and this i find is sad as it is the best IMO,MMO on the market something ive never shyed away from telling people and frankly i'd be amazed if the game wasnt around in 5 even 10 years time so its going nowhere anytime soon.
I am glad we agree wwith the EoF thing though becuase and again i'll say it that was the best expansion to any MMO i've had the pleasure of playing,its just a shame they didnt run ROK as well becuase theres no denying how nice it looks its just well in my case a very bland expansion |
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8/12/08 7:25:42 PM#44
Originally posted by Battleskar
I disagree with you on this subject. SOE is not on desperation mode.They opened accts. awhile back and I think they still are to let past and new players see how well the game is doing now. EQ2 ihas had alot of good things happen to it. I hated it when it 1st released,but now its probably the best mmo out right now. I played during the free access and found the game to run smooth as glass and had outstanding polish. The only reason I am not playing it now is I actually began to have fun in SWG again and plan on returning to EQ2 soon. Its an exciting time right now for mmo's for myself I have 3 games to explore and have a good time in. The Saga od Ryzom is back too and thats a fantastic game as well. One last thing EQ2 ran smooth on my old system 1.6 Core 2 Duo,Radeon x800 XL video card and 1.5 megs of ram. I was pleasantly surprised on how well the game looked on such an old PC. I was on the Nagena server and the population was fine. I sort of disagree with you with this to me as a vet player to give away everything free to returning players is a sign of desperation,you dont see any MMO company doing this anywhere (correct me if im wrong).
I said on the official boards that they where indeed right to give away the original game for free,hell that should be free to play now IMO but thats another matter,but to give away EQ2 just seemed very desperate,like the fat girl at the dance wearing a dress thats to tight for her fat legs. |
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8/12/08 8:53:00 PM#45
Originally posted by fozzie22
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/193898
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8/12/08 9:08:46 PM#46
several points: The faction quests are being corrected as we speak. Actually, between Domino and Rothgar, they have being doing a TON of work to improve the mechanics of the game. The game is so huge, that not all of it can be tackled at one time. That's why you see targeted areas improved. If you spent the time looking on the forums, you'd see what is coming up, and that "adding a chapter" into the basic story is what is coming down the pipes. Every year, during the summer, they have a free period for inactive accounts. This is actually the 2nd free play period I've been through (I'd have had 3, but the first time I quit, I hadn't been away long enough to be included). This may be unusual for a company to do, but it's a great marketing strategy. I can come back, play around a bit with what is changed, and decide to stay or leave, and it didn't cost me anything to do so but my time. I'm glad they gave me 2 months this time with all expansions enabled, as it gave me a chance to really look around and become involved with the people that play, want to be in a guild again, and more fully appreciate the differences from the new expansions. Sure, not everyone that played during the free period stayed, but I talk to people all the time on there that are returning veterans that liked what they saw and decided to subscribe again. I'm kinda curious about your quest experience as there are new quests being added all the time. In fact, domino is very active on test, and gives players quests to test out there quite frequently. Certainly a lot better than some games I've played that had 1 or 2 quests a level, EQ2 has so many quests that you're very likely to wind up with a bunch of grey quests as leveling can happen so readily, especially if you decide to bang around in a dungeon for xp (and heck, there's quests in those too if you want to bother with them). EQ2 is a work in progress, it's going to be that way for the rest of it's existance. Players talk like all they have to do is keep looking and they'll finally find the perfect game out there. Therefore they put down EQ2 because there's something being worked on, or something needs work on. I'm actually glad this is a game that's constantly being worked on, because if it was still the same game at launch, I wouldn't play it. Because there HAVE been changes (and more recently really smart ones) I've decided to come back and give it another go. If you're looking for the "one perfect game", you're never going to find it unless you build it yourself. And don't be surprised if you're the only one that plays it. For those that say the servers are dead, I find it quite interesting no servers are named. I'm on Black borrow, and though it's quieter during the early hours weekdays, there are still people there. People looking for groups, looking to complete heritage quest. In fact, I can usually count on a good 6 or so people in the guild I'm in to be online in the mornings with me. Weekends can be a bit crowded, and though it's certainly not the population from early eq2 (maybe this is what people are comparing eq2 now to?), I certainly don't find it dead. Originally posted by fozzie22 ...
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8/12/08 9:11:25 PM#47
Originally posted by Laiina
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/193898
Nope you still HAVE to buy the full game..so its hardly a free givaway
Towards the bottom of the FAQ
http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=30562 |
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8/12/08 9:23:46 PM#48
Originally posted by Drakaran The faction quests in ROK are a farce i know ive done 4 times now and i still see no improvement to them
Domino has a good time doing her thing but thats a very specialsed area and hers (more or less alone to do with as she wants)
I'm getting old i know that but i cant recall ANY free time given out like this for EQ2 in the 3 and half years ive played the game (through good times and bad),theres always been the trial..but well that was awful and gave no indication of the true game the lay within,but no free time..ever though please feel free to show me the official post where this news was posted becuase i cant find it anywhere
I'm a quester 2k almost at last count on my main i just found the rok ones mind numbingly dull..kill x 4 times for faction rinse and repeat,now ok thats always been there but it had so much promise when i logged into the beta the first time and went to tereens grasp and did the little series of quests involving caleb the zombie i had high hopes but it just lasped back into the tired and generic MMO questline sadly.
Chat on my server RE is at times dead,now i know a lot of raiders are going for thier mythicals atm and that does quieten things down a bit but at timess you dont see anyone,last night at 10.45 pm in fens thier was 9 people there..not good so as i see it the servers are no busier than last year despite the promo,and i know i was here i didnt feck off and play the latest game that was flavour of the month |
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8/13/08 2:51:56 AM#49
Originally posted by fozzie22
I've had five free monjths of playtime on EQ2 in the past year. The first time they gave away all the expansions to that point (RoX hadn't been released yet) along with three months of free play. The only folks who got that trial were the ones who had quit EQ2, or had the misfortune to have bought Vanguard (the Vanguard players got the game and the expansions). The free time had ran out just prior to the RoK expansion being released. This time, they included folks who had never bought the game, but had tried the free trial. They gave those folks everything including the kitchen sink. The last trial was more than a little desperate, but the main focus was to promote the RoK expansion. This time they are basically begging folks to play their game. Hell, they just gave the same trial to folks who played EQ but had never played EQ2. It seems like SOE is desperate to boost the sub numbers for EQ2. The recent promotion isn't being done out of the goodness of SOE's heart, and it also isn't being done because EQ2 is doing great. EQ2 is underperforming and SOE is willing to give away the kitchen sink in an attempt to change that. SOE's next AAA (DCUO) title is not going to be out until the end of next year at the earliest. With SOE now under new overlords (the change form being part of SPE to SCEI), I'm sure more than a couple folks in management would like to boost the sub numbers to secure their futures.
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8/13/08 5:52:59 AM#50
Originally posted by fozzie22
If you read through the whole WOW promotion, it is rather easy to get an entire year free if you sign friends up. I have not seen it mentioned much on the US forums, but there are a few discussions on the EU forums about how people are power leveling characters to 59.9 over the weekend and selling the accounts. There are other games that have given away free time, in one form or another - some as a free trial, some as recruit a friend (or enemy, depending how well you like the game...), preorder bonuses, etc etc. The MMO market is - I think - approaching saturation, where you are getting fewer new players, so companies are doing their best to "steal" players from other games. When WOW came out, it brought in a massive influx of first time MMORPG players, but after 4 years many are looking for something new. And several companies, not just SOE, are counting at least a little bit on "WOW boredom" to lure players. The ROK expansion had some good things in it - but it also went too far in promoting long strings of solo grind quests. The new zones were great, the quests for those zones not so great. |
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8/13/08 12:00:14 PM#51
I tried this game again this last month and could not stand it. The new areas are like Vanguard used to be. Crash. Crash. Crash. 'Run out of memory errors' all over the new areas. I tried to find a solution in EQ forums... nothing! Then my buddy tried it. Crash. Crash. Crash. Then he finally decided to dump Vista and try again. Crash. Crash. Crash. Same freakin' memory error. That was the end of that. |
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8/13/08 3:07:46 PM#52
Originally posted by turkwhip
Been playing for almost 4 years. Been in game since release. To compare EQ2 to Vanguard's stability is just ridiculous. In almost 4 year the game has crashed for me at most 4 time, not bad, once a year. EQ2 on my system is one of the most stable mmos I have ever played. With that said there is an issue with out of memory errors and vista. You probably did not look for info to hard since there is plenty of info about this issue on the EQ2 forums. EQ2 is a picky game and you do need to do a little research if you are having problems. EQ2 does not work easily on all systems like WoW. However I never have a problem with EQ2 on my system but I did do my research. |
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8/13/08 3:42:41 PM#53
Originally posted by eccoton
Been playing for almost 4 years. Been in game since release. To compare EQ2 to Vanguard's stability is just ridiculous. In almost 4 year the game has crashed for me at most 4 time, not bad, once a year. EQ2 on my system is one of the most stable mmos I have ever played. With that said there is an issue with out of memory errors and vista. You probably did not look for info to hard since there is plenty of info about this issue on the EQ2 forums. EQ2 is a picky game and you do need to do a little research if you are having problems. EQ2 does not work easily on all systems like WoW. However I never have a problem with EQ2 on my system but I did do my research.
Excuse me, but I did research. This is an issue that began in June of 2007 and still has not been resolved. There are 79 pages of reported errors on this issue in the forums. That's over a year of the same issue being reported and it is still not fixed (and no sense of a fix on the way any time soon). I will give you the point that it probably does not compare to Vanguard (though they do seem to be fixing their issues), but it is still nonsense. btw... it has nothing to do with Vista. The error occurs as often with XP as it does in Vista. And it is confined to new zones (from what I can tell). Apart from that, this mmo just does not run well at all. The graphics (which were touted as ground breaking... and designed to take advantage of hardware years in advance) are terrible. The terrain is blocky, the character models are lifeless (same as Vanguard) and the populated areas suffer from unbelievable hitching even on low settings. I compare it now to LOTRO, AoC and Vanguard and frankly... laugh at it. True, this game has been out a while so its age will show, but for a game that was designed for 'future hardware' it just doesn't cut it. That being said... I DO miss the glowing collectibles. |
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8/13/08 4:35:48 PM#54
I can't even recall the last time I crashed in EQ2 (using Vista). But the most common cause of out of memory errors seems to be 1. outdated video drivers 2. even more outdated video cards 3. Occasionally, due to not fully updated DX10 drivers. Note that most OOM errors come from the video card or driver that I have seen on several different computers. |
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8/14/08 9:36:31 AM#55
Originally posted by turkwhip
Excuse me, but I did research. This is an issue that began in June of 2007 and still has not been resolved. There are 79 pages of reported errors on this issue in the forums. That's over a year of the same issue being reported and it is still not fixed (and no sense of a fix on the way any time soon). I will give you the point that it probably does not compare to Vanguard (though they do seem to be fixing their issues), but it is still nonsense. btw... it has nothing to do with Vista. The error occurs as often with XP as it does in Vista. And it is confined to new zones (from what I can tell). Apart from that, this mmo just does not run well at all. The graphics (which were touted as ground breaking... and designed to take advantage of hardware years in advance) are terrible. The terrain is blocky, the character models are lifeless (same as Vanguard) and the populated areas suffer from unbelievable hitching even on low settings. I compare it now to LOTRO, AoC and Vanguard and frankly... laugh at it. True, this game has been out a while so its age will show, but for a game that was designed for 'future hardware' it just doesn't cut it. That being said... I DO miss the glowing collectibles. The research comment was not a put down at you. It was a statement reguarding one of EQ2 weak points and that is you have to do research often for this game. Unlike other mmos that just work no issues like WoW. I agree about "future hardware" SOE used this to advertize the game and as it turned out the engine if dated and not design for the way system went over the last 4 years. They dropped the ball on that one. In reguards to your feeling about the graphic I will totally disagree with that big time. Even with its dated engine EQ2 is one of the best looking game out. It also has the best character animations as well. However to enjoy this you have to have your ducks in a row (research). Not always the best systems can enjoy this. Like I said if you have one of the setups that EQ2 likes (which I do) EQ2 look fantastic. I play at 1920 x 1080 with all graphics near maxed. I get no lower then 30 fps and that is in raids or in the main cities when lots of players are around. When I am just out and about i can get 90+ fps. I play on a 36 inch aquos anfd EQ2 looks totally amazing still after almost 4 years. We may have a different opinion on graphic but I do not find these blocky, and lifeless. These are just gameplay screens it took with the above specs.
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8/14/08 4:05:13 PM#56
eq2 is a 32bit program so is can only use 2G max. Doesn't matter how much RAM you have or what version of windows. eq2 did add the \3Gb switch which allows programs to use more then 2G. With this added to the boot.ini file i have yet to crash because of out of memory. This works best if you have 4G or more.
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Narug
Novice Member
Joined: 2/04/08
Not everything that is more difficult is more meritorious. - Saint Thomas Aquinas |
8/15/08 6:53:39 AM#57
EQ2 currently has a problem with class balance and that's really trickling down to all areas of the game. Caster DPS is currently being outmatched at times against melee DPS. Overpowered assasins come to mind. Guardian really overshadowing all other tank types this expansion. Although they should be very defensive they shouldn't out DPS all other plate tank classes. It should be beserkers, shadowknights, and then either pallies or guards wriggling for the last 2 plate tank DPS spots. (I play a SK btw) The tank types minus guards also need some survivability fixes. Especially the SK. This tank issue can make it hard for some to find groups at times. It you run into a guild that's itching to raid you could find trouble gearing up a non-guard and non-pally tank. That and some scouts being able to tank heroic content in place of a tank. I think it's the current balance problems are where the real problem lies. That and they just need to advertise more. Lastly the graphics are great from my screen and its defenitely not the problem with this game. EQ2 taught me not to play tanks again and I've avoided them as much as possible in other MMOs since. I'm on the Station Pass so I may check things out time to time. To see if tanks recieve some kind of help in the next expansion and if they nerf the silly tanking of heroics by scout types. Funny enough I'm enjoying my first trek through Star Wars as a Jedi and my run with a soceror in Vanguard more. "The eternal difference between right and wrong does not fluctuate, it is immutable." — Patrick Henry |
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8/16/08 11:54:48 AM#58
Originally posted by fozzie22 I sort of disagree with you with this to me as a vet player to give away everything free to returning players is a sign of desperation,you dont see any MMO company doing this anywhere (correct me if im wrong).
I said on the official boards that they where indeed right to give away the original game for free,hell that should be free to play now IMO but thats another matter,but to give away EQ2 just seemed very desperate,like the fat girl at the dance wearing a dress thats to tight for her fat legs. Wow put out a free trial early in its release and is still going.Wow also offers scrolls of ressurection for old accts. WoW is still going strong. Last nights Fan Faire SOE says they gained 20% more to the population in new subs and old accts. being reactivated. Now whether the results are actually true or not is another thing.Now I played EQ2 for awhile before goin back to swg and from what I saw on Nagena server it was fine. |
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8/19/08 9:33:57 AM#59
Originally posted by Narug
Funny, I feel exactly the same way. I played a zerker since launch, then betrayed and became a Guard. The curse of being a tank....If your not the MT in a guild and your looking to get geared up. I rerolled now into a healer class on AB. And i havnt looked back.
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8/19/08 10:11:47 AM#60
Originally posted by Arremus
Originally posted by Narug I was thinking of getting EQII, I would like to play a Paladin so are they also gimped? Tried: WoW |
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