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8/01/08 8:17:12 AM#41
Originally posted by Alienovrlord
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Rhoklaw
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Joined: 1/12/04
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8/01/08 9:07:17 AM#42
All I can say is, I'm glad I quit the game, lol. The new PvP system looks great on paper so to speak, but my honest opinion, it's still just as pointless as WoWs PvP. |
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8/01/08 9:33:23 AM#43
AoC just sucks. The problem is I am seeing a bunch of games I thought I'd enjoy going down the same path. Action MMO's are going to suck I don't see why developers can't see this. Maybe if they didn't listen to the whiners complaining about class balance and skill > time invested, and really made it so that being a high level meant that entire towns would clear out as soon as you came in view, then you'd have an awesome Action MMORPG. All that .02% increase stuff is dull as crap. When I go up a level I want to feel it surging through my veins like electricity, not like a slight tingle in my left testicle. |
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grimmbot
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Joined: 2/12/04
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8/01/08 9:37:43 AM#44
I quit AoC about 2 weeks after release. You know what I found funny about this? That: A) The PvP system STILL wasn't turned on, and: Funcom intentionally kept the Buddy Keys inactive so you couldn't invite someone in for a test run, until the new content patch was coming down the pipe and there was talk of PvP being turned on. Just makes me think, "MMO Business As Usual".
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8/01/08 9:39:19 AM#45
Originally posted by xaldraxius
Damn skippy, i feel the same way 
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8/01/08 9:47:37 AM#46
Originally posted by Stradden Yeah, that's probably what happened. In order to silence you, a moderator went out of his or her way to give you a temp ban for a whole day. Long-term silencing. We do have an appeals process, just so you know. You can complain to community@mmorpg.com. Our Community Manager Richard will be happy to look into this for you.
As far as I can tell the appeals process doesn't work especially if you have no idea who's being a jerk against you. I finally had to create a new account to escape the Mods that were constantly harrrassing my account with 7 and 14 day bans (made this account after the bans were over btw) for stuff I didn't even do. I miss that account I had a fairly decent reputation with it but I refuse to log on under that name until I'm sure those mods have moved on to another subject. Its like stating examples and sarcasm suddenly became a crime which is ridiculous. I don't need either to flame people to get a ban but I was suddenly being banned for flames that were non existant. I even sent multiple complaints in and got nothing back on them so to be honest maybe you should train your mods in how to read sarcasm and understand that stating something as an example in a general term isn't a flame. There should be a rule against silencing posters just because you dont like them. on semi topic. THe new PvP laws are similiar to what UO did..and they didn't work. People who want to gank could careless about being flagged or out lawed they always find a way to survive. They live off their prey...it'll be interesting to see how little gankign gets stopped by these laws. |
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Originally posted by banthis Ok, if you say that you were being ignored by the Community Manager, I would be happy to look into that for you (as is my job as Manager of the site). If you provide me with your prior screen name, the dates you sent your multiple complaints and if you have them, copies of said emails. I eagerly await your report. P.S.: Reading the tone of your post, it isn't hard to see why you might have been cited for flaming: "maybe you should train your mods in how to read sarcasm and understand that stating something as an example in a general term isn't a flame." I'm going to go out on a limb and say that comments like these probably aren't the best way to have your complaints heard. It's hard to take someone seriously who says they were falsely accused of flaming when they use that compaint to insult you. I'm just sayin is all. You seem to think the mods are secretly out to get you. I can assure you that of our nearly 900,000 members, they probably aren't singling you out. Cheers, |
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tvalentine
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Joined: 4/01/06
“The things you own end up owning you.” -Tyler Durden |
8/01/08 10:50:53 AM#48
i liked it, whoever the author is needs to ignore the comments in this thread and continue writing. AOC was released 2 months ago and it was an overhyped game (lesson for future games) that didnt deliver on the FIRST day of release (didnt surprise me). Keep writing and sooner or later the trolls will leave. Lol they say they were scammed and cheated, but thats BS. You havent been scammed or cheated unless you were in the SWG pre-cu. A bad release is hardly a scam/cheat. EDIT: it really wasnt a bad game imo, up to level 50. After that though it kinda died off for me, although i understood it was still a young game, i wasnt scarred. And i do plan on returning in a month or 2
Playing: EVE Online |
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8/01/08 1:20:53 PM#49
Originally posted by Alienovrlord
shadowbane is one of the more beloved games of all time afaik. so...you kinda have no point imo |
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8/01/08 5:42:58 PM#50
Originally posted by Kraenee
And yet again we see what happens to a pvp FFA game when they listen to carebears too afraid to die in a video game and get their fweewings huwrt. Instead of working on the siege system and polishing it up they spent waaay too much time working on stupid raids, quests, levels and other pve crapolla that they original design did not have. In fact the original had a much better system of pvp but the crybaby carebears didn't like that it took skill to do it and instead they wanted the dumb down version we have now. The only problem with pvp in mmo's is carebears that want to pve. Instead of having the stones to just kick these girly men to the curb and tell them to go play another pve game they listen to them and everything gets messed up. Even in games that separate pve and pvp the pve carebears come over and then cry when they die. ewww I was gank'd. Learn 2 history as for a MMO site to actually give a score a game deserves? Or put a game on blast for being a POS? LMAO!! never happen. If your looking for the consumer reports of the MMO world.. hasn't happen... yet... Kraenee..umm (hehe cranium, I like it!) ... anyway, here's the bottom line, okay? PvP games, without a solid PvE, historically, have failed. To succeed (read "make money") some MMOs that have a solid PvP system are those that have necessarily ameliorated their game's PvP aspects awhile incorporating a strong, solid PvE base as a recipe for success. Examples of successful games with PvP include Dark Age of Camelot, Lineage II, World of Warcraft, EVE Online and the much-anticipated Warhammer Online. Virtually every single "all, FFA PvP" MMO has failed, including a game that arguably has the best PvP system ever, Shadowbane. Blame it on carebears, your dog, or whatever, FFA PvP is a recipe for disaster. But cheer up, late 2008 & 2009 will bring a number of quality MMOs even diehard PvP players will love. Hey, who knows, Age of Conan is still in beta, it may get it right too :)
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RJCox
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Joined: 9/28/03
"It''s OK... I''m a leaf on the wind! Watch how I soar!" |
8/01/08 6:22:19 PM#51
Originally posted by banthis Yeah, that's probably what happened. In order to silence you, a moderator went out of his or her way to give you a temp ban for a whole day. Long-term silencing. We do have an appeals process, just so you know. You can complain to community@mmorpg.com. Our Community Manager Richard will be happy to look into this for you.
As far as I can tell the appeals process doesn't work especially if you have no idea who's being a jerk against you. I finally had to create a new account to escape the Mods that were constantly harrrassing my account with 7 and 14 day bans (made this account after the bans were over btw) for stuff I didn't even do. I miss that account I had a fairly decent reputation with it but I refuse to log on under that name until I'm sure those mods have moved on to another subject. Its like stating examples and sarcasm suddenly became a crime which is ridiculous. I don't need either to flame people to get a ban but I was suddenly being banned for flames that were non existant. I even sent multiple complaints in and got nothing back on them so to be honest maybe you should train your mods in how to read sarcasm and understand that stating something as an example in a general term isn't a flame. There should be a rule against silencing posters just because you dont like them. on semi topic. THe new PvP laws are similiar to what UO did..and they didn't work. People who want to gank could careless about being flagged or out lawed they always find a way to survive. They live off their prey...it'll be interesting to see how little gankign gets stopped by these laws.
I answer any email sent to community@mmorpg.com that actually expresses an issue or asks a question or wants me to investigate a ban/warning, etc. If however you feel the need to just email to curse someone out about being banned, I don't bother wasting my time with it. Given the number of forums and posters on this site, TRUST me the small pool of mods we have don't spend their time going around LOOKING for people to harass and take action against. We rely on users reporting problem posts and bringing them to our attention. So if some of your posts had actions taken against them, that means some other user took offense to something you posted and reported you. But please, by all means, if you'd like me to look into something for you, drop me an email. :) Richard J. Cox |
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8/01/08 9:10:03 PM#52
ie: "On this Commercial web site which is sustained by Advertising Revenue... Advertising Revenue in fact... has... no... influence." *jaw drops to table* If you really believe that then let me congratulate you on being only the 2nd person in History to be incorruptible and beyond reproach.
Again, the Director of Marketing took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down to me and write a favorable review." Jon said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the general discussion, and serve only the unpaid readership." Then the Director of Marketing left him, and angels came and attended him. -Matthew 4: 8-11 massively revised edition |
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8/02/08 12:15:57 AM#53
Actually shadowbane being a very open ffa pvp game was a great concept and many people played that game. The reason it failed was because the developers couldn't get over the hurdles that made that game basically unplayable at times. From large lag to more, there were allot of reason why shadowbane failed, but it had nothing to do with the game being ffa pvp. As far as this article goes, I think the writer did an excellent job reporting on what he has read and understands from upcoming patches coming out concerning pvp. Now everyone has an opinion on things, some will like it some will not, but this article wasn't bias. I don't even see it, he wrote in a positive light that the game could actually get better if these things are implemented and from his perspective it looks good. If you don't agree with that then so be it, but don't tell the guy he is clueless when he is writing very openly about it. While there is no argument that AOC bombed on launch, people are still playing it. Like it or not they will continue to play it and as they have the right to say they like the game you have the right to say you don't. All the correspondents and articles that have come out of this site have been darn good for the many years I have been a member and if you can find better, well you know what to do. While I don't agree with the writer 100% on things, I do believe he did his best and wrote one heck of an article on things to come, allot of which I was clueless on so bravo for informing those not actually following the game anymore.
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8/02/08 12:19:45 AM#54
Originally posted by Flummoxed ie: "On this Commercial web site which is sustained by Advertising Revenue... Advertising Revenue in fact... has... no... influence." *jaw drops to table* If you really believe that then let me congratulate you on being only the 2nd person in History to be incorruptible and beyond reproach.
Again, the Director of Marketing took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down to me and write a favorable review." Jon said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the general discussion, and serve only the unpaid readership." Then the Director of Marketing left him, and angels came and attended him. -Matthew 4: 8-11 massively revised edition
While I laughed at your second part of this (well done btw) it is sad that you beleive everyone in business is corrupt. If that is the world you live in then it is a sad one indeed.
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Arcken
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Joined: 8/14/04
Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included. |
8/02/08 5:54:44 AM#55
Personally I think AoC should be removed from this website, why drag MMORPG.com through the dirt with these "lite" articles about a game that has pretty much shows up everything an mmo company shouldnt do. Whether you are a fan or not, you cant deny the lack of professionalism shown by Funcom. Everytime I read an article about AoC, I just want to scream. Its like writing an article about a cars stereo system in a brand new car when the car itself doesnt even run properly. "Oh hey guys this car has a @#(*$@#$ great stereo system, I mean, it doesnt run very well, and a bunch of the options they promised me when I bought it may not be there, but hey, have you heard about the stereosystem it has?
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Arcken
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Joined: 8/14/04
Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included. |
8/02/08 5:58:55 AM#56
P.S. If you are running low on feces to bag up and set aflame on someones doorstep, I encourage you to substitute AoC. I definately would rather have burning feces on the bottom of my shoe by comparsion.
(No animals were harmed in the making of this post, just fanbois.) |
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8/02/08 11:17:09 AM#57
Like we used to say in starcraft "GG NO RE FAILCOM". AGe of conan is dead and it will get burried this fall, when games like warhammer, aion or wotlk will tear it apart.
RIP AGE OF LOLAN |
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8/02/08 1:33:34 PM#58
"Actually shadowbane being a very open ffa pvp game was a great concept and many people played that game. The reason it failed was because the developers couldn't get over the hurdles that made that game basically unplayable at times. From large lag to more, there were allot of reason why shadowbane failed, but it had nothing to do with the game being ffa pvp." Ah, to say that the above statement is preposterous just does not do it justice. True, Shadowbane had it's problems. But the real reason most players left was primarily the ffa pvp. that is pretty obivous to anyone who played the game. You just cannot have ffa-pvp without consequences. Shadowbane is direct proof of that. That is exactly why Funcom is making changes to pvp. |
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8/02/08 2:53:41 PM#59
Originally posted by Kunou We rely on users reporting problem posts and bringing them to our attention. So if some of your posts had actions taken against them, that means some other user took offense to something you posted and reported you. When I read that it dawned on me that my EXTREMELY MILD poking of fun at AoC the other day must have gotten under Avery's skin (or one of his minions) and that would explain what happened. It seemed so odd to me that with all the people calling each other retards and asshats and other worse things every day that action would be taken against such an innocuous posting as mine. You might want to tell your mods to actually look at posts and think about how it stacks up in proportion to all the other stuff that goes on on this site before they take action. |
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8/03/08 1:11:00 PM#60
The problem with Funcom's "new" PvP solution is that, unlike other games you flag in, in this one you don't really lose anything when you die unless you are flagged.
In Ultima Online you would drop your entire bags contents.
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wow.
