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  User Deleted
7/27/08 7:28:52 PM#41
Originally posted by frodus
Originally posted by Enigma

/agreed

The last person the media is biased against is Obama. To say otherwise is simply not paying attention to current events


 

Sir.Enigma thats was heavy .  ha ha ahah


 

Thanks, I get all my political viewpoints from the Cobra Commander himself.

  mstersmith

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7/27/08 9:12:23 PM#42

I am surprised by how close the poll is between Obama and McCain. Figure it would be a land slide for Obama. May be this will be a close race after all.

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7/27/08 10:39:13 PM#43
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

 


Originally posted by Enigma

 

while I dont think Obama isn't unpatriotic....I do think he does harbor prejudices against other skin colors and against people not within his lifestyle in the US. I know his wife does.
Remember...just because someone isn't white does not make them immune to racism and prejudicism. Its a global problem.


 



When is the last time a candidate received the bulk of their prejudice from the media? I never seen so many professionals make the mistake of "accidentally" calling someone by the wrong name so many times on tv before in my life. Its like barrock is Osama's twin brother or something.

These guys are not retarded, they are articulate, literate human beings some of which have been on the air from a decade to half a century. They don't fuck up the teleprompter notes, like i said, they are just showing their true colors, just because they dont have the balls to outright say they dont want a black president doesn't mean they aren't hinting at it.

The media is supposed to be neutral, the American populous is stupid and gullible, so without a neutral source to receive reliable information from they will just take most of what they hear at face value.

 


 

Are we seriously going to get into media bias regarding Obama?  Because I assure you, you'll only find that they are ridiculously pro-Obama.

 

I can't believe that I even have to point this out...are you seriously trying to say that the media has a bias AGAINST Obama?? REALLY though?!?

 

Ps.  I'm not voting for Obama, and is has nothing to do with his skin color, just as a vast overwhelming majority of other people who won't be voting for him...we're not voting for him because he's a socialist with a completely broken moral compass

Christian who votes in favor of partial birth abortion every time it has come up in the senate?  That would be Obama

 

yeah...sorry but I don't know very many Christians that think that Partial birth abortion is all that Christ-like.

 

The Media doesnt follow Obama because they are for him, they follow Obama and then they chant "Lets see if he screws up.." "Obama is going to meet with X leader, lets hope he doesnt have a faux Paux", " Following someone just to make sure you are there to watch him if or when they fall doesnt mean you are for them.


If you dont realize that is the reason they all followed him while he was glove trotting then you arent following current events.

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  User Deleted
7/27/08 10:57:29 PM#44
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

 


Originally posted by Enigma

 

while I dont think Obama isn't unpatriotic....I do think he does harbor prejudices against other skin colors and against people not within his lifestyle in the US. I know his wife does.
Remember...just because someone isn't white does not make them immune to racism and prejudicism. Its a global problem.


 



When is the last time a candidate received the bulk of their prejudice from the media? I never seen so many professionals make the mistake of "accidentally" calling someone by the wrong name so many times on tv before in my life. Its like barrock is Osama's twin brother or something.

These guys are not retarded, they are articulate, literate human beings some of which have been on the air from a decade to half a century. They don't fuck up the teleprompter notes, like i said, they are just showing their true colors, just because they dont have the balls to outright say they dont want a black president doesn't mean they aren't hinting at it.

The media is supposed to be neutral, the American populous is stupid and gullible, so without a neutral source to receive reliable information from they will just take most of what they hear at face value.

 


 

Are we seriously going to get into media bias regarding Obama?  Because I assure you, you'll only find that they are ridiculously pro-Obama.

 

I can't believe that I even have to point this out...are you seriously trying to say that the media has a bias AGAINST Obama?? REALLY though?!?

 

Ps.  I'm not voting for Obama, and is has nothing to do with his skin color, just as a vast overwhelming majority of other people who won't be voting for him...we're not voting for him because he's a socialist with a completely broken moral compass

Christian who votes in favor of partial birth abortion every time it has come up in the senate?  That would be Obama

 

yeah...sorry but I don't know very many Christians that think that Partial birth abortion is all that Christ-like.

 

The Media doesnt follow Obama because they are for him, they follow Obama and then they chant "Lets see if he screws up.." "Obama is going to meet with X leader, lets hope he doesnt have a faux Paux", "

I disagree.
 

American Media loves this guy. He was the cover of TIME magazine 4 years as the next president. The media is following him around like those little kids on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

 

  Draenor

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7/27/08 11:43:31 PM#45
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

 


Originally posted by Enigma

 

while I dont think Obama isn't unpatriotic....I do think he does harbor prejudices against other skin colors and against people not within his lifestyle in the US. I know his wife does.
Remember...just because someone isn't white does not make them immune to racism and prejudicism. Its a global problem.


 



When is the last time a candidate received the bulk of their prejudice from the media? I never seen so many professionals make the mistake of "accidentally" calling someone by the wrong name so many times on tv before in my life. Its like barrock is Osama's twin brother or something.

These guys are not retarded, they are articulate, literate human beings some of which have been on the air from a decade to half a century. They don't fuck up the teleprompter notes, like i said, they are just showing their true colors, just because they dont have the balls to outright say they dont want a black president doesn't mean they aren't hinting at it.

The media is supposed to be neutral, the American populous is stupid and gullible, so without a neutral source to receive reliable information from they will just take most of what they hear at face value.

 


 

Are we seriously going to get into media bias regarding Obama?  Because I assure you, you'll only find that they are ridiculously pro-Obama.

 

I can't believe that I even have to point this out...are you seriously trying to say that the media has a bias AGAINST Obama?? REALLY though?!?

 

Ps.  I'm not voting for Obama, and is has nothing to do with his skin color, just as a vast overwhelming majority of other people who won't be voting for him...we're not voting for him because he's a socialist with a completely broken moral compass

Christian who votes in favor of partial birth abortion every time it has come up in the senate?  That would be Obama

 

yeah...sorry but I don't know very many Christians that think that Partial birth abortion is all that Christ-like.

 

The Media doesnt follow Obama because they are for him, they follow Obama and then they chant "Lets see if he screws up.." "Obama is going to meet with X leader, lets hope he doesnt have a faux Paux", " Following someone just to make sure you are there to watch him if or when they fall doesnt mean you are for them.


If you dont realize that is the reason they all followed him while he was glove trotting then you arent following current events.


 

This is such a state of denial that I can't even believe I'm reading it.

Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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7/28/08 1:25:17 AM#46

hehe, I wonder who the OP voted for. seems like he dislikes them all...even Cobra Commander

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7/28/08 6:10:54 AM#47
Originally posted by Overpower

hehe, I wonder who the OP voted for. seems like he dislikes them all...even Cobra Commander

 

I'm a Hilary fan.

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Before anyone votes for McCain, check this video out. heck, even Bush administration has come to their senses to agree with Obama on the war...

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President Bush and Senator John McCain have long been in agreement on major elements of American foreign policy, particularly in their approach to the “axis of evil” countries of Iran and North Korea , and their commitment to staying the course in Iraq .

But now the administration’s agreement to consider a “time horizon” for troop withdrawals from Iraq has moved it, at least in the public perception, in the direction of the policies of Senator Barack Obama . That has thrown Mr. McCain on the political defensive in his opposition to a timed withdrawal, Republicans in the party’s foreign party establishment say.

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7/28/08 8:43:55 AM#48
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

 


Originally posted by Enigma

 

while I dont think Obama isn't unpatriotic....I do think he does harbor prejudices against other skin colors and against people not within his lifestyle in the US. I know his wife does.
Remember...just because someone isn't white does not make them immune to racism and prejudicism. Its a global problem.


 



When is the last time a candidate received the bulk of their prejudice from the media? I never seen so many professionals make the mistake of "accidentally" calling someone by the wrong name so many times on tv before in my life. Its like barrock is Osama's twin brother or something.

These guys are not retarded, they are articulate, literate human beings some of which have been on the air from a decade to half a century. They don't fuck up the teleprompter notes, like i said, they are just showing their true colors, just because they dont have the balls to outright say they dont want a black president doesn't mean they aren't hinting at it.

The media is supposed to be neutral, the American populous is stupid and gullible, so without a neutral source to receive reliable information from they will just take most of what they hear at face value.

 


 

Are we seriously going to get into media bias regarding Obama?  Because I assure you, you'll only find that they are ridiculously pro-Obama.

 

I can't believe that I even have to point this out...are you seriously trying to say that the media has a bias AGAINST Obama?? REALLY though?!?

 

Ps.  I'm not voting for Obama, and is has nothing to do with his skin color, just as a vast overwhelming majority of other people who won't be voting for him...we're not voting for him because he's a socialist with a completely broken moral compass

Christian who votes in favor of partial birth abortion every time it has come up in the senate?  That would be Obama

 

yeah...sorry but I don't know very many Christians that think that Partial birth abortion is all that Christ-like.

 

He didn't vote for it but he did vote to not ban it. Do you feel a woman has the right to decide whats best for her without interference from the government? I won't be voting for either McBush or Obama. Both parties are not looking out for the American people and/or the Constitution.

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  Korusus

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7/28/08 5:45:38 PM#49

John McCain is a lucky moron who won his party's nomination due to a series of unfortunate events.  In the same year that the Democrats chose between the first major Female candidate and the first major African-American candidate, the Republicans went with their oldest, whitest candidate.  Make no mistake about it, no one in the upper echelons of the Repug party think McCain is going to win, his sole purpose at this point is to take the fall and bring down Obama just enough that Repugs won't take such a hit down-ticket.  Also, bear in mind that McCain is a tool.  I used to think the guy was okay when he stuck to his moderate positiions, but in his lust to become President he's pandered and relented to every conservative neo-nazi hatemongering idgit with any sway over party politics. 

Ralph Nader is a narcissist who is too full of himself to realize his time has passed.

Bob Barr is actually a decent candidate who left his own party to stick to his ideals.  Unfortunately that means he has no chance of winning.

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken.  Obviously horrible qualitiies in a President if our current Moron-In-Chief is the shining example.  Anyone who says they don't know enough about Obama hasn't done their homework.  Not that knowing a lot about "Leave my first family and marry a hot rich blonde McCain" somehow makes him a better candidate.

Seriously, the American people need a wake-up call.

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  User Deleted
7/28/08 6:17:21 PM#50
Originally posted by Korusus

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken. 


 

lol

  Korusus

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7/28/08 7:51:08 PM#51
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken. 


 

lol

 

I know you're just being your usual self, but want to explain the "lol"?

I mean, we can't all graduate 5th from the bottom of a class of over 800 people like John McCain.  At least George Bush's stupididity is an act, you can't fix John "SURGE" McCain.

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  JayBirdz

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7/28/08 8:10:48 PM#52
Originally posted by Korusus

John McCain is a lucky moron who won his party's nomination due to a series of unfortunate events.  In the same year that the Democrats chose between the first major Female candidate and the first major African-American candidate, the Republicans went with their oldest, whitest candidate.  Make no mistake about it, no one in the upper echelons of the Repug party think McCain is going to win, his sole purpose at this point is to take the fall and bring down Obama just enough that Repugs won't take such a hit down-ticket.  Also, bear in mind that McCain is a tool.  I used to think the guy was okay when he stuck to his moderate positiions, but in his lust to become President he's pandered and relented to every conservative neo-nazi hatemongering idgit with any sway over party politics. 

Ralph Nader is a narcissist who is too full of himself to realize his time has passed.

Bob Barr is actually a decent candidate who left his own party to stick to his ideals.  Unfortunately that means he has no chance of winning.

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken.  Obviously horrible qualitiies in a President if our current Moron-In-Chief is the shining example.  Anyone who says they don't know enough about Obama hasn't done their homework.  Not that knowing a lot about "Leave my first family and marry a hot rich blonde McCain" somehow makes him a better candidate.

Seriously, the American people need a wake-up call.

" is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken."  

 

 That describes anyone of these men.  It is so easy to get the nomination by one of the major parties for President isn't it?  I think they are all intelligent.  If you don't like McCain just say why other than calling him a lucky moron.  That is such a copout remark.  Not to mention that your implying the Republican party is raciest?   So people should choose and or agree with Obama simply because he is black? Pfft, whatever..    

Clinton in my opinion would have steam rolled McCain by this point.  Not because she is a woman.  But because people know who she is.   From just watching the news today.  CNN or one of the other mainstreams (I forget which I glance at all of them) showed polls with like a 16% undecided vote.   Well within range for McCain to win the election.  McCain was only off by like 6 or 7 %.  That is not a lot!  We have not even had a live debate between these two yet.  IMO that is one of McCain's stronger area's.  I would not be so quick to shut McCain out.  Lets not forget on top of all this Obama is mainstream media's cinderella man.  How the heck has he not shutout McCain with so much going for him?

Bush a moron as well?  I guess he just sat on his butt and did not have to do any work to get where he is.  He's not one of the most powerful people in the world or anything.  It is not like he convinced the majority to elect him.  Not that I agree with all of his decisions or anything.  Just saying...   He is far from a moron. 

 

 

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7/28/08 8:37:37 PM#53

CHUCK BALDWIN!


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7/28/08 8:42:02 PM#54
Originally posted by Korusus
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken. 


 

lol

 

I know you're just being your usual self, but want to explain the "lol"?

I mean, we can't all graduate 5th from the bottom of a class of over 800 people like John McCain.  At least George Bush's stupididity is an act, you can't fix John "SURGE" McCain.


 

Obama is none of those things when he is trying to talk off the cuff...He simply can't do it.

 

You think that Bush sucks at public speaking?  Try listening to Obama give anything but an extremely rehearsed speach where nobody interrupts him and nobody asks any questions, it's absolutely painful to watch.

I believe that this is why Obama has been avoiding any kind of debate with McCain, because he knows taht he'll be exposed as a contrived wad of well rehearsed bullshit

Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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7/28/08 8:54:17 PM#55
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by Korusus
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

Barack Obama is intelligent and charismatic and well-spoken. 


 

lol

 

I know you're just being your usual self, but want to explain the "lol"?

I mean, we can't all graduate 5th from the bottom of a class of over 800 people like John McCain.  At least George Bush's stupididity is an act, you can't fix John "SURGE" McCain.


 

Obama is none of those things when he is trying to talk off the cuff...He simply can't do it.

 

You think that Bush sucks at public speaking?  Try listening to Obama give anything but an extremely rehearsed speach where nobody interrupts him and nobody asks any questions, it's absolutely painful to watch.

I believe that this is why Obama has been avoiding any kind of debate with McCain, because he knows taht he'll be exposed as a contrived wad of well rehearsed bullshit

I've seen Obama speak off the cuff repeatedly in the last four years since I first started following his career, and I guarantee that he's a much more coherent speaker than John McCain.  As for avoiding Debates, I promise you there will be a Presidential Debate on September 26, October 7, and October 15 pretty much as usual. 

I actually look forward to the debates.  John McCain did horribly in the Republican Primary debates with lines like "I'll follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of Hell!" (just not Pakistan apparantly). 

It will be interesting to see the direct juxtaposition of McCain and Obama during the debates.  I have a feeling it will make McCain look as good as he looked in front of that green backdrop. 

Originally posted by JayBirdz



Bush a moron as well?  I guess he just sat on his butt and did not have to do any work to get where he is.  He's not one of the most powerful people in the world or anything.  It is not like he convinced the majority to elect him.  Not that I agree with all of his decisions or anything.  Just saying...   He is far from a moron. 

 

No, Bush is no more a moron than he is that good-ol' boy Texan that he pretends to be.  But the majority of the American people are morons and Bush played the hand that he was dealt.  Which is why in my second post I mentioned that Bush's stupidity is an act, because it is.

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  User Deleted
7/28/08 9:03:50 PM#56
Originally posted by Korusus

 

I've seen Obama speak off the cuff repeatedly in the last four years since I first started following his career,

 

I have too. He's pretty bad off the cuff. 57 states; those poor people clinging to their guns and religion; his poor grandmother who was scared of black people lol

Cobra Commander has NEVER sounded stupid in his off the cuff speaches. NEVER.

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7/28/08 9:05:41 PM#57
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

 

I've seen Obama speak off the cuff repeatedly in the last four years since I first started following his career,

 

I have too. He's pretty bad off the cuff. 57 states; those poor people clinging to their guns and religion; his poor grandmother who was scared of black people lol

Cobra Commander has NEVER sounded stupid in his off the cuff speaches. NEVER.

I still hold that the 57 states remark was a joke, but you're right Cobra Commander is the best speaker of all of them.  If I weren't such a die-hard Democrat I would definitely support Cobra.

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  User Deleted
7/28/08 9:08:06 PM#58
Originally posted by Korusus
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

 

I've seen Obama speak off the cuff repeatedly in the last four years since I first started following his career,

 

I have too. He's pretty bad off the cuff. 57 states; those poor people clinging to their guns and religion; his poor grandmother who was scared of black people lol

Cobra Commander has NEVER sounded stupid in his off the cuff speaches. NEVER.

I still hold that the 57 states remark was a joke, but you're right Cobra Commander is the best speaker of all of them.  If I weren't such a die-hard Democrat I would definitely support Cobra.


 

That is the first damned thing we have EVER agreed with together, Korusus! lol

But all seriousness aside, I believed Obama was joking too....however, he should have said something...like a witty comment or a sly smile or something after the comment.

  Draenor

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7/29/08 12:45:58 AM#59
Originally posted by Korusus
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Korusus

 

I've seen Obama speak off the cuff repeatedly in the last four years since I first started following his career,

 

I have too. He's pretty bad off the cuff. 57 states; those poor people clinging to their guns and religion; his poor grandmother who was scared of black people lol

Cobra Commander has NEVER sounded stupid in his off the cuff speaches. NEVER.

I still hold that the 57 states remark was a joke, but you're right Cobra Commander is the best speaker of all of them.  If I weren't such a die-hard Democrat I would definitely support Cobra.


 

 

yeah, and when Kerry called the troops stupid he was actually making a joke about Bush.

 

how about when Obama said that his grandfather was there for the liberation of Auschwitz?  How about When he was calling Sioux falls, Sioux City?  or when he called an asthma inhaler a "breathalizer", and then an "inhilator"

 

It wasn't a joke, he's just a poor speaker when talking off the cuff, and has a nasty habit of making shit up and getting caught...It's almost like he is taking notes from every other politician to ever run for president...Obama is not "different" he will not bring "change" he is the same as every other man who has ever run for president, except he's a socialist.

 

note:  Obviously Obama knows that there aren't 57 states, I'm not saying that he is so stupid to not know that we have only 50...but to say that it was a joke, and not just a verbal misstep, is pretty naive...Why would he make a joke like that?  it's not funny, there is no punchline nobody gets it...that's not a joke, that's just him talking when it's not rehearsed and orchestrated.

Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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