On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

Well two option here either the mod didnt have a decent mastery of english ( most of the gms / mods seem to have only basic notions of english) or that post had a touch of rant in it. The mod are getting very tired of players telling them how to do their jobs. What teh point of repostign what has been posted a few thousand times before?

Originally posted by beaverz

Well two option here either the mod didnt have a decent mastery of english ( most of the gms / mods seem to have only basic notions of english) or that post had a touch of rant in it. The mod are getting very tired of players telling them how to do their jobs. What teh point of repostign what has been posted a few thousand times before?

I currently post on about 30 different forums around the web, and have been doing the internet BB thing for about 15 years now.  I have never seen such childish moderators as the ones on the AoC forums, even on the teenager forums run by high school kids.

Don't get me wrong, AoC has a good core IMO, but their customer service and censorship changes are ruining everything, from their game down to the forums.  Nobody in their right mind wants to pay someone $15 a month to bait and switch and play controlling mind games.

What would Conan do?  Methinks he would eviscerate Gaute and strangle Famine with his guts, but that's just me.

The thing about AoCs Moderators, is that they are nearly all unpaid volunteers that signed up a few weeks back.

Now, taking that into account, when they selected the players to be Mods they didn't seem to realize that two days before those same players were flaming and trashing the game on there very own forums.

FunCom didn't seem to notice, and now we have power abusing kiddies closing threads, deleting threads and issuing infractions left, right and centre. Alot of threads are being closed for absolutely no reason, when they pertain to real problems with the game and need to be addressed.

Its a gong show over there, I received an infraction because some child reported my signature, I had a brief, politely written statement regarding why performance needed to be top priority in AoC and how I had cancelled because it wasn't top priority.

Nothing vulgar, lude or obscene and I was completely within the Forum CoC, yet I was punished.

Originally posted by CreepingDoom

The thing about AoCs Moderators, is that they are nearly all unpaid volunteers that signed up a few weeks back.

Now, taking that into account, when they selected the players to be Mods they didn't seem to realize that two days before those same players were flaming and trashing the game on there very own forums.

FunCom didn't seem to notice, and now we have power abusing kiddies closing threads, deleting threads and issuing infractions left, right and centre. Alot of threads are being closed for absolutely no reason, when they pertain to real problems with the game and need to be addressed.

Its a gong show over there, I received an infraction because some child reported my signature, I had a brief, politely written statement regarding why performance needed to be top priority in AoC and how I had cancelled because it wasn't top priority.

Nothing vulgar, lude or obscene and I was completely within the Forum CoC, yet I was punished.

Well, I will say this.  Why walk into their pasture when the wolves are guarding the sheep?

I have five buddy keys and I was stoked about them until two weeks ago.  I can't throw my buddies into this game in good faith, not with the management it has.

the management has managed to drive many players away from AOC as far as i know, so what im guessing is AOC has a large lack of professional management in the forums

Yeah the AoC forum mods are nazis.  I would love to see the deleted archive.  Its probally x2 bigger than the forum itself

Originally posted by beaverz

Well two option here either the mod didnt have a decent mastery of english ( most of the gms / mods seem to have only basic notions of english) or that post had a touch of rant in it. The mod are getting very tired of players telling them how to do their jobs. What teh point of repostign what has been posted a few thousand times before?

Only reason for this Nazi censorship going on is that Funcom dont accept negative replies or threads about there game.

It might have a negative impact on Funcom economics since people learn how bad a game Age of Conan really is. Thats the only reason.

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

I've been watching those forums (I love a good train wreck...) and I was struck by the decision to appoint various players as moderators. In fact, it ALWAYS astounds me when a company does this.

A company running a multi-multi-million-dollar enterprise should take pains to make sure that their Public Faces (forum moderators, tech support personnel, etc.) are of the highest quality. They should use letter-perfect English in print and should be able to maintain a top-notch level of professionalism in all circumstances.

I encounter this in my work all the time - more "technically-minded" people (engineers, etc.) tend to have a certain disdain for the more liberal-arts educated. In short, they think writing and communicating are for English-major girls and they find customers to be nuisances.

In gaming, this typically manifests intself on the official forums. Devs think they know how to manage customer communication because they are smart and know the game. When they find out they don't know the first thing about dealing with customers, they either clam up or hire/appoint some intern or a bunch of "community leaders" to do this job for them.

This is a HUGE mistake, but I see it constantly. Any company with an investment of this size, dealing with millions of fickle customers in a highly competitive, highly public, highly-internet-discussed industry is harming themselves immeasurably by delegating the critical duties of communication and customer service to amateurs and fans on power trips.

Originally posted by Dkevlar

Originally posted by Aguitha

 Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Not it is not. But.. I lived in Norway for some time, but... I hope this is not going to offend any norwegian, since it is not my intention, but.. well.. norwegians have a special mentality, Most  of them are not that open to other views apart the ones they have and as foreigner there, working in and for their behalf, many times i found myself crashing on "stone walls" when trying to explain that certain simple concepts and perspectives while might be valid to norway, are not shared in equal fashion by everyone. 

and strangely I worked also in sweden .. and can say that is much more easier to engage in a conversation and exchange of ideias with the swedish .  

phshaw, norwegians.. /rollseyes

dense? thickheaded?

read it as you desire, since i will not go to qualifying them in a specific manner. I just anted to point out that most of them (it is not even all, certain regions are different) have... a "special way "

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by beaverz

Well two option here either the mod didnt have a decent mastery of english ( most of the gms / mods seem to have only basic notions of english) or that post had a touch of rant in it. The mod are getting very tired of players telling them how to do their jobs. What teh point of repostign what has been posted a few thousand times before?

I currently post on about 30 different forums around the web, and have been doing the internet BB thing for about 15 years now.  I have never seen such childish moderators as the ones on the AoC forums, even on the teenager forums run by high school kids.

Don't get me wrong, AoC has a good core IMO, but their customer service and censorship changes are ruining everything, from their game down to the forums.  Nobody in their right mind wants to pay someone $15 a month to bait and switch and play controlling mind games.

What would Conan do?  Methinks he would eviscerate Gaute and strangle Famine with his guts, but that's just me.

Too true, at least the point on forums in general. Being a 15 year old myself, I'm one of the dozen moderators of a relatively large gaming forum, and the majority of us consist of teenagers as young as ten to young adults. And for the most part, we're one of the most mature forums I've ever seen. We've never had to ban a single person and rarely ever run into someone who is, obviously, not forum savvy. But with time these people either leave or grow in maturity with the rest of us. It's an extremely great experience.

On the other hand, from what I myself have experienced at the AoC forums, it is anything but mature. Horrible moderation and an equally bad community. Communication, although one of the many problems with FC, is one of their worst problems.

critique.

Originally posted by Jeff44

critique.

Touche.

Since the game became useless for me, I truly enjoyed trolling at the official AoC Forums.

The best thing was that the Forums there are more fun than the game itself.

* True FFA PvP action.  No safe zones.  No mercy.

* Fresh, new content every minute.

* True skill-based PvP action.  There's the pathetic flame posters, then there are the professional flame posters.  We use sound logic AND insults to win!

Anyways, FC and their boys can moderate all they want on their own forums.  But they can't moderate the INTERNETZ!

P.S. - I was a proud member of the Forum Guild called: Troll Union

Fun while it lasted before my Permaban

I have been extremely critical of the game, on the official forums and I have never even received a warning for it.  I did get one yellow card for calling someone a douche-bag... but I stand by that character judgment.

Originally posted by Warmaker

Since the game became useless for me, I truly enjoyed trolling at the official AoC Forums.

The best thing was that the Forums there are more fun than the game itself.

* True FFA PvP action.  No safe zones.  No mercy.

* Fresh, new content every minute.

* True skill-based PvP action.  There's the pathetic flame posters, then there are the professional flame posters.  We use sound logic AND insults to win!

Anyways, FC and their boys can moderate all they want on their own forums.  But they can't moderate the INTERNETZ!

P.S. - I was a proud member of the Forum Guild called: Troll Union

Fun while it lasted before my Permaban

lol I loved reading the Troll Union posts on the AoC forums, always got a chuckle out of me. Gratz to you guys for making the ego-maniac there snap and hide his nudy-mods lol

Originally posted by Salvatoris

I have been extremely critical of the game, on the official forums and I have never even received a warning for it.  I did get one yellow card for calling someone a douche-bag... but I stand by that character judgment.

My Padawan Learner, you must take your flame tactics to a higher level!

Frequent flaming isn't enough.

Liberal usage of curse words and insults isn't enough.

Any retard can use the above 2 styles.

You have to *embrace* the Troll Union philosophy:

1) Use sound logic and facts in your arguments.  This is the biggest deal, IMO.  If you present outright facts and obvious flaws, nobody can argue with you.  If the only negative replies you get against you are things like, "Stop whining," or "You're just an a**hole!," then you've won.  They simply cannot argue with your facts laced with insults.  Speaking of insults, this leads into my 2nd point...

2) In conjunction with using facts and sound logic, use insults at the proper moments.  It doesn't have to be a curse word.  Sarcasm and other clever usage of words to insult people work great in driving your points home.

Edited to add: 3) Make your flame post coherent!  When you're throwing in the insults, it's very easy to lose coherency in your Flame Post.  You get excited and all that!  Make your posting coherent and understandable, so that more people can enjoy your work.

Remember, liberal F-bomb usage do nothing but numb the reader.  However, if you point out idiotic flaws, dumb dev logic, questionable practices, etc. AND use insults / sarcasm / etc. at the proper moments, you will irk their mods and their fanbois that much further.

I got permabanned from the Official AoC Forums without no warning whatsoever.  And it happened when I *really* wanted to turn up the heat and joined the TROLL UNION on the forums.  Not sure if they're still around.  I'm sure their Forum Inquisitors have been on the prowl.

Now I don't know if this is accually the developers but they said they were and im just going to believe them.

But Funcom hosts a Team Fortress 2 server which I ended up playing on one day. After talking about the game for a bit one of the server admins (claims to be a dev) asked how old i was. Not knowing where he was going with this i just said 19.

After i said that the dev/admin started ranting for a few minutes about how someone as young as me has no idea the time and effort it takes to develop an MMO.

That's true i don't. But to me, this dev seemed like a "little baby" after I mentioned my opinion. So to me it seems the devs don't like anyone critiquing their "masterpiece".

Originally posted by mmofanatic

Now I don't know if this is accually the developers but they said they were and im just going to believe them.

But Funcom hosts a Team Fortress 2 server which I ended up playing on one day. After talking about the game for a bit one of the server admins (claims to be a dev) asked how old i was. Not knowing where he was going with this i just said 19.

After i said that the dev/admin started ranting for a few minutes about how someone as young as me has no idea the time and effort it takes to develop an MMO.

That's true i don't. But to me, this dev seemed like a "little baby" after I mentioned my opinion. So to me it seems the devs don't like anyone critiquing their "masterpiece".

To me, it doesn't matter if I know how the development process works.  All I know is that alot of work goes into it.

Now, as a (now former) paying customer, I just need to know this:

* Are the listed, hyped about features in-game?  Why not?  WHEN are they coming out?

* I know there will be bugs.  That's a given for any MMO, especially new ones.  But the main thing is this... how quickly are the devs resolving issues, especially major ones?  How are fixes to broken abilities and classes going along?

* If you're going to Nerf, then fix things instead of  only crippling classes.

There's more for me, but these are the core ones, esp. when it came down to AoC.  Since the answers to the above points were all in a negative direction, I felt no heartache when I hit the Cancel button.

Funcon Dev's are probubly laughting there heads off all the way to the bank.

They dont care, with all the sells this game had It made profit I bet.

Mmorpg's cost lots of money to make. they ran out of it.....

They dont care about what you think. To them your a bunch of dummies that bought

there game with faith it was any good. And they wish it was but they ran out of money and had to pay back

a hole lot they had borrowed , 

"Oh BTW this game Suck but still buy it We need to pay off a hole lot of cash."

I did not buy this game, and I wont buy WAR right at launch.  If you do and are disapointed then you only

have your own stupidity to blame.

Originally posted by Aguitha

On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

Originally posted by dancord26

Originally posted by Aguitha

On the AOC forum that is.   My brother who's been playing the game since launch hit 80 last week.

Since he hit 80 he found himself bored with the lack of content end game, so he decided to quit the game, not definitively, but for a while, until they add some end game content at least.

He went to the official forum and post a very intelligent post about the reasons why he was leaving and made suggestion what Funcom should do to improve the game.

His post was well written, polite, expressing it's tought about the game.  Well FC ban him from the forum for making a critic about the game.

I played this game about 2 weeks before quitting, my brothers stick to hit for some reasons, i just can't believe a company actiing like that.   To post any cristisism about the game earn you a ban from their forum.  I lost all respect i had for this company.  Maybe communism is accepted in Oslo, but not in the rest of world.

Peace.

 

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

Information, as in password, account I.D. etc..Not a well written critique that just happens to have, "I cancelled", at the end of it.
 

If I'm wrong, then post a link to the eula that clearly states it. If it's in general terms then anything could be considered "account information". 

I have a Ranger. I just told you about my account.

See how that works buddy?

P.S. and this is your first post here, go figure.

Well, as a mod on the AoC forums, i can tell you it's against the Eula to post information about your account.  An example of this is to say that you are quitting the game, and canceled your subscription.

And this is why AOC forums are screwed. They need to train the morons they have working on the boards. This guy is an idiot. Just think for a moment and you can see how if he really does believe what he says the forums are just going to remain a laughing stock.

He believes saying you cancelled your account is against the EULA because your not allowed to talk about your account. Your not allowed to say your leaving because your talking about your account.

if I say I subbed for a year and love he game then he would ban me because I am talking about my account. If I helped a guy with account problems and told him how I fixed mine he would ban me for talking about my account AND the guy asking for help, because its talking about his account.

If this guy honestly believes that talking about your account is wrong, then he should be named shamed and kicked from the mod team.