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TdogSkal  7/16/08 10:46:29 AM

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Do not fear death, Death will come a knocking anytime it wants.

So I have been thinking of trying EvE for some time now and finally I think its time to try it.

Before I have been playing other MMOs and never could give EVE a chance, now I am not playing anything and want to try EVE.

Okay now that is out of the way.

I have been reading up on at the main website. Got a few questions.  Please only answer if you are a current EVE player... I dont care if you hate EVE, I want to know if I would enjoy myself. 

If I were to start tonight what should I expect? 

What profession should I go for? 

Since EvE is a skill based game and skills build up over time does that mean I have a long time to wait before I join in on the fun stuff?  (Fun stuff = PvP, exploring, hunting, ect)

Does my choice of race limit what ships I can use or what corporations I can join? 

Lets say I would love to do some kind of military/Business career.  What stats do I want to focus on?  I would like to get into a corporation that does alittle of everything.... I think my playstyle is a type of front line fighter/hunter pilot.  (I figured I will die a ton, that does not scare me, dieing is a part of a game and I love how it seems to hurt alot in EVE.  It will make me a better player if I fear death)

I am not scared of PvP... I enjoy it most of the time but there are days I want nothing to do wtih PvP and just want to do mindless PvE stuff.... Is that possiable?

Thanks - these are a few things I am looking to learn before downloading and playing.... I seem to read both good and bad things about EVE.... The good is the freedom of choice and the ability to play a game that 3 years from now I will still be learning.   The Bad is that since its a skill based game and skills build up over time I feel I might never be able to catch the Vet players and will always be weak.

Tdog - MMO Vet - EVE Noob

Waiting on CoS and Darkfall

Tunango  7/16/08 11:03:46 AM

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Every single thing you do in EVE requires a skill to do it, no matter what race you are if you wanna fly a ship from another race just get the skill for it.

All the skills train in real time even when you are not logged on, all races start off with certain skills so you can preatty much do anything from the start, EVE is a very slow game and there is a lot to learn, and too much to put into this little space in the forum.

Do not expect to do a lot in a short space of time it really is not that sort of game.

If you wanna be a pirate /military style fighter then the caldari is probably the best race to choose plus they got the best ships.

If all you wanna do is fight then just train skills for that like don't bother with mining skills.

If you haven't bought the game yet then do the trial first, this game is not for everyone(very slow in getting going but stick with it)

 
Eschiava  7/16/08 11:11:10 AM

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Hi, and welcome to EVE!

I can answer a few of your questions anyway, but I'm at work right now and can't devote a lot of time, but I did want to say hi and give you something to chew on.

First, if you logged in for the first time tonight the first thing you would see is a tutorial.  I strongly recommend you do the full tutorial so you have a firm grasp of the basice before you go out on your own.

Next, your chosen race will in no way limit the types of ships you will be able to fly in the future.  Your race will limit the ships you can fly with little or no training.  e.g. the ships you can fly on your first day or first few days will be determined by your race.  With the proper skills, you can fly any ship in the game.

There are corporations that will show you the easiest way into PvP.  They will give you a skill path that will take under a day to train and then provide you with ships that you can fly in their PvP ops.  Your roles in PvP will be very limited at first, but this kind of introduction into PvP will be with you for your entire EVE career.

Another route is to join EVE University.  This is another corp that will train you in every aspect of EVE, not just PvP, but any area of the game you feel like exploring.  This is another great way to get started.

Well, that's it for me, but again, welcome to EVE, and I hope you will enjoy your time here.   NEVER be afraid to ask questions in-game or on the forums.

 
TdogSkal  7/16/08 12:52:56 PM

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Do not fear death, Death will come a knocking anytime it wants.

Hmm So I was reading more about EVE, while at work... no manual flying?  Point and click system?  I though EvE was all about player skill? 

Can someone comment on this... Still going to try the game tonight but the controls are a big issue for me.

Waiting on CoS and Darkfall

Eschiava  7/16/08 1:14:05 PM

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I'm sure others will be able to reply in greater depth than this, but here goes.

There are certain things you cna do other than point and click, especially during battles.  You can orbit an object (usually a ship) at a given distance, or you can set up to maintain distance.  You can also fly at such an angle as to maximize angular velocity.

Personally, I find that during fights I am PLENTY busy, if you're doing less than 2-3 things at once you're probably not getting the most bang out of your ship which means your chance of losing a fight increases.  The last thing I would want to do is have to think about flying my ship with (a joystick? WASD keys?) some manual control.  And, given the type of ships modeled in EVE, I don't think a manual flight mode would be terribly realisit anyway.

I'll ask the question:  Do other PvP pilots feel they have enough to do duriing fights?

 
HYPERI0N  7/16/08 2:25:14 PM

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Originally posted by TdogSkal

Hmm So I was reading more about EVE, while at work... no manual flying?  Point and click system?  I though EvE was all about player skill? 

Can someone comment on this... Still going to try the game tonight but the controls are a big issue for me.

 

Movement wise it is point and double click. The skill comes in when you understand the following guide, this basically explains how your movement direction and speed can effect how accurate your guns are against a target and how you can use this to make you harder to kill.

And here is a link to more guides as EvE isant easy to learn these will help.

 
nurgles  7/16/08 2:47:31 PM

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Originally posted by TdogSkal

So I have been thinking of trying EvE for some time now and finally I think its time to try it.

Before I have been playing other MMOs and never could give EVE a chance, now I am not playing anything and want to try EVE.

Okay now that is out of the way.

I have been reading up on at the main website. Got a few questions.  Please only answer if you are a current EVE player... I dont care if you hate EVE, I want to know if I would enjoy myself. 

If I were to start tonight what should I expect? confusion

What profession should I go for? i think you talk about this lower down, but one of the soldier/military types

Since EvE is a skill based game and skills build up over time does that mean I have a long time to wait before I join in on the fun stuff?  (Fun stuff = PvP, exploring, hunting, ect) No you can get into that pretty quickly, you will however be learning lots of hard lessons quickly. Faction warfare may ebe a direction you might look at.

Does my choice of race limit what ships I can use or what corporations I can join? Absolutely not.

Lets say I would love to do some kind of military/Business career.  What stats do I want to focus on?  How much of a min/maxer are you? if you do care but not hugely, get good stats across the board with maybe the exception of charisma. they are all useful.

I would like to get into a corporation that does alittle of everything.... I think my playstyle is a type of front line fighter/hunter pilot.  (I figured I will die a ton, that does not scare me, dieing is a part of a game and I love how it seems to hurt alot in EVE.  It will make me a better player if I fear death) Great attitude, a lot of people say get in a corp quickly, well, this can work out or be a disaster. I recomend a bit of patience in this area to find the right corp.

I am not scared of PvP... I enjoy it most of the time but there are days I want nothing to do wtih PvP and just want to do mindless PvE stuff.... Is that possiable? It is, there are a few things you will need to consider, but as you learn about rules regarding war decs, and FW, and security status, you should be able to work things out. a warning though that the pve content is very very dull.

Thanks - these are a few things I am looking to learn before downloading and playing.... I seem to read both good and bad things about EVE.... The good is the freedom of choice and the ability to play a game that 3 years from now I will still be learning.   The Bad is that since its a skill based game and skills build up over time I feel I might never be able to catch the Vet players and will always be weak.

the ability to play over a long time centres around being able to play a different game but still being in the one game. Flying styles vary depending on what you fly and what role you are taking. giant battleships do not rapidly do anything, so WASD is pretty useless. Small rapid respoce gangs are mobile and controling range/transversal/speed is vital, you can excell in one style of play (for basic T2 ships and all T1 ships) in six to twelve months as long as you specialise. the way the skill system works there is actually a cap.

 

 
nurgles  7/16/08 2:52:22 PM

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a quote i saw recently that i couldn't agree with more

 

"If I had to choose between a player uncomfortable about losing a fully kitted and rigged T2 ship they weren't too experienced in, and a full T1 mark 1 mod 0 player with attitude, balls, and skill... I'd rather be with the latter every time. "

 

the characters skill points and gear, while not imatterial to a fight, are far less important than knowing how and when to use the gear you have.

 
TdogSkal  7/16/08 8:16:28 PM

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Do not fear death, Death will come a knocking anytime it wants.

Well I did download it tonight...I started playing and ..........  Learning curve is not joke but so far so good, its hard to get used to the movement and the menu's but once I play more and more, I can see it getting fun.

EvE is not your typical MMO and that is a good thing.

Twulf in game, if anyone wants to say Hi.

Waiting on CoS and Darkfall