WAR (Warhammer Online)

They cut huge parts out just to make the Fall release date, only way they could make it.

The game we will be getting is not what was intended from conception and media put out.

Its not small changes either - its pretty significant.

The game wont be delayed they will release fall as EA demands it. all be with 2/3rds less content all at the same price.

EA decided they could get 2 expansions out of that for more $$$

EA is obviously pushing a release date and Mythic is doing the best they can to cope.

let me use my analogy again...

"I'm sorry, we just couldn't get those spinners on your porshe, but if you bring it back in a few months we will have the latest and best spinners on the market. And we'll even put them on FOR FREE! How's that sound?"

Originally posted by Capn23

EA is obviously pushing a release date and Mythic is doing the best they can to cope.

 

let me use my analogy again...

 

"I'm sorry, we just couldn't get those spinners on your porshe, but if you bring it back in a few months we will have the latest and best spinners on the market. And we'll even put them on FOR FREE! How's that sound?"

I'll purchase my Porsche from the dealer down the block who has everything in stock now.

WoWLK...

Originally posted by tikovoo

They cut huge parts out just to make the Fall release date, only way they could make it.

The game we will be getting is not what was intended from conception and media put out.

Its not small changes either - its pretty significant.

The game wont be delayed they will release fall as EA demands it. all be with 2/3rds less content all at the same price.

EA decided they could get 2 expansions out of that for more $$$

 

29/33 zones = 88%

20/24 careers = 83%

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2/3rds less content - lol.

There are 6 races with 4 tiers each - so thats 24 areas. There were going to be 6 capitols - so 24 + 6 = 30. There are now only 2 capitols so 24 + 2 = 26.

26/30 = 86.6% recurring. But hey lets go all out and round down and call it 15% less content. Thats roughly 1/6th less content - not 2/3rds.

So each racial pairing will still have 4 tiers of fighting, its just a the very end they wont be able to sack each others cities - they will have to settle for Chaos/Empire city sacking.

Yes huge amounts of content are being cut - because the capital cities are huge. Its still not 2/3rds. I would rather have those 4 cities released later when they are done, than released part done with nothing to do when you capture them compared to the Chaos/Empire cities.

Obviously they have been given a fixed release date to aim for, and cant get the cities done in time.

They may delay the game if they get close to release and arent totally happy with where they are at, but they arent delaying the game to get the other 4 cities done, or the last 4 classes at a point they are happy with.

Originally posted by Capn23

Originally posted by tikovoo

Originally posted by Capn23

EA is obviously pushing a release date and Mythic is doing the best they can to cope.

 

let me use my analogy again...

 

"I'm sorry, we just couldn't get those spinners on your porshe, but if you bring it back in a few months we will have the latest and best spinners on the market. And we'll even put them on FOR FREE! How's that sound?"

 

I'll purchase my Porsche from the dealer down the block who has everything in stock now.

WoWLK...

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what I should of said is 6 capitols were said as part of the design, leaving just 2 now. that is 2/3rds of that particular content which was to be experience as put across to us all by heavy marketing media. Not game as a whole.

What I was interested in was the initial design which was put to us all. Including the classes being only 83.33 % of what they said.

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If I was a dev company I would not many to make a MMO with the hateful attitude of the players these days. 

Non MMO gamers show way more respect and appreciation then MMO players.  Just look at portal.  One gun that makes two holes, and 7 hours of play, that's it, and look how much love and respect the non-mmo community gave it. 

Look at GTA IV  - pissed off a few fans by not having previous features, but still had overwhelming good respect and suport of fans.

Put yourself in a devs shoes, which crowd would you want to please. 

Spore is going to be the new golden god of a game, if it was a MMO, it would ripped to shreds in 2 seconds.

So judge WAR when it is release.  This is not AoC, or HG:L. 

Originally posted by tikovoo

Originally posted by Capn23

Originally posted by tikovoo

Originally posted by Capn23

EA is obviously pushing a release date and Mythic is doing the best they can to cope.

 

let me use my analogy again...

 

"I'm sorry, we just couldn't get those spinners on your porshe, but if you bring it back in a few months we will have the latest and best spinners on the market. And we'll even put them on FOR FREE! How's that sound?"

 

I'll purchase my Porsche from the dealer down the block who has everything in stock now.

WoWLK...

 

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what I should of said is 6 capitols were said as part of the design, leaving just 2 now. that is 2/3rds of that particular content which was to be experience as put across to us all by heavy marketing media.

What I was interested in was the initial design which was put to us all. Including the classes being only 83.33 % of what they said.

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We're still in beta...things get cut or phased in later. When they say "Alright -everything- is in the game" is when we should think "alright, that means no more cuts or putting stuff on hold".

The mud is still wet.

Originally posted by tikovoo

Originally posted by Capn23

Originally posted by tikovoo

Originally posted by Capn23

EA is obviously pushing a release date and Mythic is doing the best they can to cope.

 

let me use my analogy again...

 

"I'm sorry, we just couldn't get those spinners on your porshe, but if you bring it back in a few months we will have the latest and best spinners on the market. And we'll even put them on FOR FREE! How's that sound?"

 

I'll purchase my Porsche from the dealer down the block who has everything in stock now.

WoWLK...

 

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what I should of said is 6 capitols were said as part of the design, leaving just 2 now. that is 2/3rds of that particular content which was to be experience as put across to us all by heavy marketing media. Not game as a whole.

What I was interested in was the initial design which was put to us all. Including the classes being only 83.33 % of what they said.

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So what i grapse is that while you can still PVP through all the tier and at the end of each tier 4 there is a fortress and with 1 city till the rest are in you have to control 2 of those. BUT because you cant sack the orc city till later, but can still easily sack the chaos city or w/e you dont want to play because you would feel like you are missing on out the game you have never played before?

How about try it then cast judgment, you can always come back later when it is in, prty much you are basing the assumtion that the only possible way you could have fun is if you can seige all the cities, what if that wasnt good , what if this 1 city focus on seigings works better? what if all 3 cities on each side is in but you can only seige 1 at a time, will you quite because you can seige all of them at each time but the system with the 1 seige works better because they happen more often ?

yeah wait and give ita try

Every game makes cuts, and if your buying WOTLK and followed wow in Beta (didnt even have to be in it) you know you are paying for things that they said would be in the first WOW

Really i ask if get all your information first, and try it. Fun is the thing that matters, im sure you would still have fun attacking a diff capital till yours is in since you are still RVring. try it then judge it. I would like to say from what iv heared from beta testers the current focus on the city is much better since the fights are focuses and you can sac things, anyway if i remember tonight in beta is suppose to be some kind of stress test aka first seige.