Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Nierro

Oh my god this is SO FRUSTRATING...

 

People who think recent Global Warming is man made;

SCIENTISTS. SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS. BASICALLY EVERY GOVERNMENT.

 

 

People who think recent Global Warming is part of a cycle;

YOU. SEAN HANNITY.

 

 

There are just as many scientists who think man made global warming is retarded
 

 

Proof?

You'll have a very very hard proving this.

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point. Man Made global warming does not exist. every link you provided. every picture you posted shows us crap. Its mere speculation. You would have better luck convincing an athiest that a diety control their lives versus convincing everyone this is man made.

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Nierro

Oh my god this is SO FRUSTRATING...

 

People who think recent Global Warming is man made;

SCIENTISTS. SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS. BASICALLY EVERY GOVERNMENT.

 

 

People who think recent Global Warming is part of a cycle;

YOU. SEAN HANNITY.

 

 

There are just as many scientists who think man made global warming is retarded
 

 

Proof?

You'll have a very very hard proving this.

 

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point. Man Made global warming does not exist. every link you provided. every picture you posted shows us crap. Its mere speculation. You would have better luck convincing an athiest that a diety control their lives versus convincing everyone this is man made.

Exactly, thank you very much Enigma.

Originally posted by Enigma

 

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point.

Is that so?

Melting Himalayan Glaciers May Doom Towns

Dozens of mountain lakes in Nepal and Bhutan are so swollen from melting glaciers that they could burst their seams in the next five years and devastate many Himalayan villages, warns a new report from the United Nations.

It's hardly news that the world's glaciers are melting—a phenomenon widely attributed to gradually rising global temperatures. But the possible consequences in terms of human deaths and loss of property have reached greater urgency in light of the findings of the new study.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0501_020502_himalaya.html

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And now I'm done wasting my time trying to convince you. Bye.

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Enigma

 

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point.

 

Is that so?

 

 

Melting Himalayan Glaciers May Doom Towns

Pallava Bagla in New Delhi
for National Geographic News

May 7, 2002

Dozens of mountain lakes in Nepal and Bhutan are so swollen from melting glaciers that they could burst their seams in the next five years and devastate many Himalayan villages, warns a new report from the United Nations.

It's hardly news that the world's glaciers are melting—a phenomenon widely attributed to gradually rising global temperatures. But the possible consequences in terms of human deaths and loss of property have reached greater urgency in light of the findings of the new study.

 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0501_020502_himalaya.html

 

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And now I'm done wasting my time trying to convince you. Bye.

again, that article doesnt tell us crap about man made global warming. I could turn around and give you 50 more articles about polar caps in Antartica rising. I could show you charts that the polar caps are getting colder. But its pointless. It will not do you any good.
 

That article tells me nothing.  In 1773 Italy went through a heat wave any many died from exhausting, lack of water, famine, etc. It went on for almost 2 decades. I only wished and prayed  that they had hybrid cars back then because we could have diverted  that disaster /sarcasm.

Its just another article with no proof of man made global warming. You have shown me nothing.

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Enigma

 

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point.

 

Is that so?

 

 

Melting Himalayan Glaciers May Doom Towns

Pallava Bagla in New Delhi
for National Geographic News

May 7, 2002

Dozens of mountain lakes in Nepal and Bhutan are so swollen from melting glaciers that they could burst their seams in the next five years and devastate many Himalayan villages, warns a new report from the United Nations.

It's hardly news that the world's glaciers are melting—a phenomenon widely attributed to gradually rising global temperatures. But the possible consequences in terms of human deaths and loss of property have reached greater urgency in light of the findings of the new study.

 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0501_020502_himalaya.html

 

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And now I'm done wasting my time trying to convince you. Bye.

Do you really think posting this is going to make people go green?

It will take along time for people to even give a sh*t about the subject, and go green.

No one cares about green house gases and global warming.

Originally posted by sup3rsn1p3r

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by Nierro

Oh my god this is SO FRUSTRATING...

 

People who think recent Global Warming is man made;

SCIENTISTS. SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS. BASICALLY EVERY GOVERNMENT.

 

 

People who think recent Global Warming is part of a cycle;

YOU. SEAN HANNITY.

 

 

There are just as many scientists who think man made global warming is retarded
 

 

Proof?

You'll have a very very hard proving this.

 

just as you will have a very very hard proving your point. Man Made global warming does not exist. every link you provided. every picture you posted shows us crap. Its mere speculation. You would have better luck convincing an athiest that a diety control their lives versus convincing everyone this is man made.

Exactly, thank you very much Enigma.

thank you :)
 

One of the major arguments that still has me for the global warming is the accurate weather formulas tracing the major trends over thousands of years. Using geological data they the weather model is and almost exact match, but only in the last couple hundred years, its much hotter than the model would predict. The difference lines up with major advances in our use of pollution.

There is oodles of good papers on both sides. From a personal perspective im more leaning on the "it does exist" side but I think to say conclusivly if it does or does not exist is not something you can do.

As for what we should do, I say if we cut down emissions and pollution, the worst that happens is a recession.
If we do nothing the worst that could happen is a world wide disaster and billions dieing.

I think we should act.

I am by no means a scientist but I don't understand how they can blame CO2 concentration when looking at the Ice Core samples shows conflicting data.  I do understand that the deeper the depth the older the sample is.  So the more recent years would be the top and the older years would be the bottom of the list.  These samples go back 160,000 years.    If it isn't a normal part of climate change then how can a sample at 1700m and 1875m have similar CO2 values?  Even higher in the 1875 by almost 20ppmv.  That would seem to show that the Earth has previously hit values of CO2 that were equal to today's values.  This data comes from the Vostok Ice Core data. 

Vostok Ice Core CO₂ Data

Barnola et al,Nature, 329, 408-414 (1987)


     Depth    ice Age    Gaz age    CO2 ppmv   mimimum    maximum