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VultureSkull  6/27/08 7:40:19 AM

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Why is that people have such venom against AOC?

 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 

I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

 

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

 

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Elsabolts  6/27/08 7:46:18 AM

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My reasons are 1,ooo.oo + upgrading system 100.00 collectors edition promises made by game company that  were not true. How would  you  feel now.

 
altairzq  6/27/08 7:46:31 AM

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This is what happens when a game is hyped a bit too much.

 
aretina  6/27/08 7:50:43 AM

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5 - Its just plain boring.

 

Maybe after 6-7 years will be better.

 
vesavius  6/27/08 7:54:13 AM

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Originally posted by VultureSkull

Why is that people have such venom against AOC?

 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 

I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

 

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

 


 

I don't hate much in life, let alone a game, but I do reserve the right to be critical. Call this 'venom' if you want, but the game had to do something wrong to bring me from being a believer to a cynic.

I don't feel tricked or misrepresented by AoC's hype, I accept any game has to promote itself in today's market, but I will be open and sincere when I say this game to me is...

Boring.

I personally have played it and have found it, on the negative, to be sterile, linear, and with waaay too little content in terms of dungeons and the like. I also prefer group based games, and AoC is 90% a soloers heaven.

This isnt venom, it's just my view. Please don't try to cram me into little pigeon holes that just exist to justify your own perspective.

 
Smackr  6/27/08 8:09:20 AM

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Originally posted by VultureSkull

Why is that people have such venom against AOC?

 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 

I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

 

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

 


 

Yeah, I think those are the main reasons why there is so much hate against AoC. Anyways I'm having a good time playing the game ( i'm a very patient person) but I have to admit that I do also sometimes get a little frustrated by the condition of the game right now and many things are not working, so I don't blame ppl getting angry and misspleased  because its far away from what potential the game realy has, But if ppl wait 2-3 moths I think it will be a excelent game to play = )

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VultureSkull  6/27/08 8:10:27 AM

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Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by VultureSkull

Why is that people have such venom against AOC?

 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 

I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

 

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

 


 

I don't hate much in life, let alone a game, but I do reserve the right to be critical. Call this 'venom' if you want, but the game had to do something wrong to bring me from being a believer to a cynic.

I don't feel tricked or misrepresented by AoC's hype, I accept any game has to promote itself in today's market, but I will be open and sincere when I say this game to me is...

Boring.

I personally have played it and have found it, on the negative, to be sterile, linear, and with waaay too little content in terms of dungeons and the like. I also prefer group based games, and AoC is 90% a soloers heaven.

This isnt venom, it's just my view. Please don't try to cram me into little pigeon holes that just exist to justify your own perspective.

Well Boring is a valid point, and this and many other games would be boring for you.

So not just AoC you find boring i guess.
 

Since you dont have venom towards the game then this post is not about you and i am not pigeon holing you into anything.

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metatronic  6/27/08 8:13:44 AM

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Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by VultureSkull

Why is that people have such venom against AOC?

 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 

I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

 

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

 


 

I don't hate much in life, let alone a game, but I do reserve the right to be critical. Call this 'venom' if you want, but the game had to do something wrong to bring me from being a believer to a cynic.

I don't feel tricked or misrepresented by AoC's hype, I accept any game has to promote itself in today's market, but I will be open and sincere when I say this game to me is...

Boring.

I personally have played it and have found it, on the negative, to be sterile, linear, and with waaay too little content in terms of dungeons and the like. I also prefer group based games, and AoC is 90% a soloers heaven.

This isnt venom, it's just my view. Please don't try to cram me into little pigeon holes that just exist to justify your own perspective.

 

You're right man, the game in a nutshell is extremely boring.. Even the few groups I did get into.. The game just didn't have the same dynamics as eq2 when in a group.. I blame the melee combat system and player collision.. Thats the 2 biggest reasons why grouping in aoc sucked.. You had no mobility as a tank in a group.. You were trying to dps to generate enough hate to hold agro but if the mobs started bouncing around to various dps classes you had to interrupt your combo to move and go get it.. The combat system was not tank friendly at all.. Maybe guards have an easier time tanking and holding agro but my conq had some issues.. I didn't even really feel like a tank in my gay quilt..

Some other issues.. No in combat rezs, or conqs had it but no control over it.. How freaking stupid is that? No hate mods/buffs for tanks, no deagro for dps.. I tried the conq and kept hearing it gets better through my 20's and 30's/40's.. They just flat out suck in that type of combat system.. Which is by far the slowest and dumbed down combat system I've ever played.. and this is just a few of many issues with that game.. I haven't even touched upon how stupid the graphics look.. World design and layout are ok the set paths suck.. Ambient lighting was terrible, particle effects are terrible.. Armor/weapons models are the worst I've seen in any game.. The graphics really weren't that great I don't know what people like about them.. I found them extremely ugly.. Imo, tanks wear plate and use shields.. Their whole system is garbage from top to bottom..

Oh and # 5: People are tired of being used and abused by these companies that deliver half done and shoddy games based on lies and deceitful PR which is protected by NDA up till release.

 
eugam  6/27/08 8:16:10 AM