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Hey genius, read about the game.  There's like this thing called "insurance."  You can like "buy" it with "money."  It like, "gives" you your gear back.

Way to fail.

Doesn't EVE have full/partial loot? That game seems to be doing just fine with it... Besides, looting makes it that much more exciting.

There was another little game that launched with PvP loot, you might have heard of it: Ever Quest.

Originally posted by bluealien1

Doesn't EVE have full/partial loot? That game seems to be doing just fine with it... Besides, looting makes it that much more exciting.

the difference is that Eve has safe zones, and Earthrise doesnt.

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by bluealien1

Doesn't EVE have full/partial loot? That game seems to be doing just fine with it... Besides, looting makes it that much more exciting.

 

the difference is that Eve has safe zones, and Earthrise doesnt.

A bit disingenuous.  While there is no mechanic in the game which technically prevents a player from opening fire on another at any time there are strong, and harsh, NPC countermeasures in place in certain locations (like Sal Vitas, the capital of the city-state Continoma). 

So if you want to kill some newb get ready to have an NPC storm on top of your head.  Plus you lose all of your gear if killed whether it was insured or not.  And the massive repercussions with reputation., et cetera.

its easy to run and hide in EVE and when you dock in stations you cant be attacked, but , you still have to undock to move anywhere else in the eve universe. no point playing if you dont undock.

once your undocked EVE has the same system that you detailed. while its possable to attack someone in the high-sec (npc policed) areas, your aggression is met with extreme prejudice.

the golden rule everyone learns fast in EVE is "you don't fly what you can't replace". its a geat system that is clearly working for EVE, i dont see why it can't work for Earthrise as well.

Originally posted by Ruckup

Unless they want to fail from the get go ..... Hey mabey they only want 100 subs at launch.

many DEvs have tried Full Loot pvp and the game died or they just forgot about the idea altogethor... I mean Look at AoC right now the WoW fanboy whimps cried and now FFA is going away.

I understand your worrys.

And i agree that FFAPvP doesnt work in class/level based MMOs. So then its a nice to know that Earthrise will be skill based and FFAPvP will work fine for that gameplay. Just as it does in other skill based MMOs as EVE and UO.

Originally posted by lkavadas

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by bluealien1

Doesn't EVE have full/partial loot? That game seems to be doing just fine with it... Besides, looting makes it that much more exciting.

 

the difference is that Eve has safe zones, and Earthrise doesnt.

 

A bit disingenuous.  While there is no mechanic in the game which technically prevents a player from opening fire on another at any time there are strong, and harsh, NPC countermeasures in place in certain locations (like Sal Vitas, the capital of the city-state Continoma). 

So if you want to kill some newb get ready to have an NPC storm on top of your head.  Plus you lose all of your gear if killed whether it was insured or not.  And the massive repercussions with reputation., et cetera.

That makes it a lot like EVE. Actually there are players in EVE that will start kamikaze attacks on transports with expensive freight. If successful, a buddy of the attacker will loot the victim. But it always costs the attacker's ship.

Apart from that, EVE has both safe zones (exception from "safe" see above) and unpoliced areas with completely open PvP.

Hey op please do some research on the game before you start throwing out wild statements like you did! Go look at the official forums especially the Question of the Weeek sub-forum! There are some planned game mechanics to stem PVP kills in certain areas. Also ever hear of a game called Eve online? Well that game is going pretty strong and has full loot PVP!

The thing is that in eve 0.0 pvp where ppl loot each other is an alliance wars system. And most ppl dont pvp with their top stuff, facion ships, plex mods...

They use the stuff that their corp produces which makes pvp pretty inexpensive if your in a decent alliance.

Sure some regular mmorpgs have pvp loot but how many of them were really succesful?

Going full loot pvp mean aimoing at the most hardcore players, the same player that dont mind doing 6 hour raids to get a pair of glove that give only a few stat point more that the regular stuff.

Dont compare eve with other mmorpgs, its a life simulator, not a game.

Yes, because every game from now on will have Epicz and Raidz. Just like in omgwow

 Actualy EvE has no safe zones  you can suicide Gank  pilots just think they are safe Muhahaha!

I think the full loot could work with insurance, the reason I won't be playing is the auction house instant shopping economy. Unfortunately that's an MMORPG deal breaker for me.

Originally posted by ASUDevil

I think the full loot could work with insurance, the reason I won't be playing is the auction house instant shopping economy. Unfortunately that's an MMORPG deal breaker for me.

 

 

what do you mean by "auction house instant shopping economy"?

Originally posted by Kganthe

Originally posted by ASUDevil

I think the full loot could work with insurance, the reason I won't be playing is the auction house instant shopping economy. Unfortunately that's an MMORPG deal breaker for me.

 

 

 

what do you mean by "auction house instant shopping economy"?

I would like to know that also. 

Originally posted by Joker2240

Originally posted by Kganthe

Originally posted by ASUDevil

I think the full loot could work with insurance, the reason I won't be playing is the auction house instant shopping economy. Unfortunately that's an MMORPG deal breaker for me.

what do you mean by "auction house instant shopping economy"?

I would like to know that also. 

He means the lack of player run business.  A player can't be a great crafter and setup a true storefront like old school SWG or Entropia Universe or whatever.  Players just craft stuff, throw it on the Earthrise E-Bay, and then once it's bought it's just auto-delivered to the buyer.  This was all covered in one of the QOTWs awhile back.

I agree with him.  I don't care for the instan-auction stuff either.  On the other hand it doesn't bother me enough to not play the game.

Originally posted by Ruckup

This game will NEVER go LIVE with FULL LOOT pvp

I hope you're right!

Originally posted by ASUDevil

I think the full loot could work with insurance, the reason I won't be playing is the auction house instant shopping economy. Unfortunately that's an MMORPG deal breaker for me.

 

 

You dont have to use the AH to sell items if you dont want to.

The AH is mainly for when you dont have time trying to sell it, or to just "post and forget" the item, go do something, and it either sells or doesnt. The Auction House system shouldnt break the game for you, sorry to hear it, but its a rather absurd reason.

If you like selling things personally, go ahead, there is nothing in the game to stop you from doing so. Advertise yourself in chat channels and sit around in the main city.

Me, I'll do whatever is best for the moment. :P

and to people thinking this game wont work with full looting, go ahead and think that. Fact is, that the devs are implementing more than one way to keep your gear safe, and if you are so worried about your epic gear being lost, dont use it to PvP, or actually pay for some insurance :P

Full loot would work great in a skill based MMO. Quit whining about losing your items, they won't matter that much and it adds some excitement to the game. Go back to the WoW themepark if you want to grind forever for your precious purplz.