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General Discussion  » When PlaneShift developers and staff are breaking their own policies in regards to PlaneShift "spoilers"

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  Tuxide

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Joined: 8/14/07
Posts: 259

8/27/08 4:33:10 PM#41
  Hiraghm

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Joined: 8/26/08
Posts: 39

8/27/08 10:26:20 PM#42
Originally posted by pstruth

Apparently Hiraghm, you were lying when you said you read my posts.  My opinions come from extended observation and participation in ps.  Others have shared their experiences with me, but I have many experiences of my own.

Please tell me why I should respond to you when you lie about reading my posts and your arguments are merely personal attacks.

 

Gee, you're a meanie! you called me a liar! Obviously you're not a "professional"! waaah.

You shouldn't respond to me, or anyone else. I kind of think that's what other people are trying to get across to you.

 

Gee, you don't like remarks you consider personal attacks? Pot, meet Kettle.

MY opinions are formed from over a decade of MMO game experience. You have repeatly admitted that you have little experience outside of what you *claim* your experience has been in PS. As such, your opinion should hold little weight. But you are indeed tireless in your crusade to crucify PS and those members of its development staff who just don't have the patience to put up with your incessant assault.

 

  homik

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Joined: 8/27/08
Posts: 2

I are illogical, my logic is irrefutable.

8/27/08 10:40:54 PM#43

pstruth, or datruth, or whatever you are, i have a few questions for you?

 

why? why must you persistantly  demean PS like this? From what i have bean told and read, it seams to be a personal quest of yours to destroy the hard work of people. Why? Can you not fall asleep at night if you have not burned the dreams of people to the ground and thrown all their hard work into oblivion? 

I realize this game and perhaps its personel has its flaws, but i dare you to find me one game, person, insect, hell, BLADE OF GRASS that doesn't have its flaws.

I also realize this is sort of a personal attack but what you are spuing upon this forum is nothing different. The difference being that i am attacking one person and you are attacking all the people behind PS.

So please, stop this inane mockery you call a thought process. You are NOT a messiah that will free the slaves tormented by the terrible terrible gms of PS (from my experience, they are very kind people). If someone is not satisfied with this game, let them walk away, that is his problem, not yours.

  Araroyige

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Joined: 8/27/08
Posts: 17

8/27/08 10:48:48 PM#44
Originally posted by Hiraghm
Originally posted by pstruth

Apparently Hiraghm, you were lying when you said you read my posts.  My opinions come from extended observation and participation in ps.  Others have shared their experiences with me, but I have many experiences of my own.

Please tell me why I should respond to you when you lie about reading my posts and your arguments are merely personal attacks.

 

Gee, you're a meanie! you called me a liar! Obviously you're not a "professional"! waaah.

You shouldn't respond to me, or anyone else. I kind of think that's what other people are trying to get across to you.

 

Gee, you don't like remarks you consider personal attacks? Pot, meet Kettle.

MY opinions are formed from over a decade of MMO game experience. You have repeatly admitted that you have little experience outside of what you *claim* your experience has been in PS. As such, your opinion should hold little weight. But you are indeed tireless in your crusade to crucify PS and those members of its development staff who just don't have the patience to put up with your incessant assault.

 

 

Uhm...  PSTruth, what experience?  A developer has said that you've been banned for a fairly long while due to several trolling incidents afaik.  I would really like your meaning here cleared up. (Heh, muddy truth!)

Also, I'd also like to understand how you think that everyone is being so mean to you?  Seems to me that they're speaking as much the truth here as you are.  Putting the word truth in your nick doesn't make you anything close to infallible. 

 

However, as far as the original topic goes, the availibility of spoilers on the German site is because they do not share the same philosophy that spoilers are a no-no.  It's that simple.  They use tags and such, so it's not like anyone's going to have pounds upon pounds of spoilers thrusted upon them because they can read German and happen to visit the site. 

  Dihenis

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Joined: 8/27/08
Posts: 1

8/27/08 11:34:54 PM#45
Originally posted by pstruth

Apparently Hiraghm, you were lying when you said you read my posts.  My opinions come from extended observation and participation in ps.  Others have shared their experiences with me, but I have many experiences of my own.

Please tell me why I should respond to you when you lie about reading my posts and your arguments are merely personal attacks.

 

why are you so quick to label him a liar? you claim to still be playing PS but that doesn't match up with what others have said. I have read some of your posts and what Hiraghm has said doesn't seem to be too far off mark.

  pstruth

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Joined: 9/22/07
Posts: 253

8/28/08 12:54:10 AM#46

I don't want to destroy the game.  I'm just unhappy with way things happen in the community and I think things can improve.

I don't understand how being critical of the game can destroy it when it's supposed to be a community effort and we're supposed to be testers.

I'm not saying everyone is being mean to me, because that simply isn't true.

I do think there are certain personality types that go around defending the game by bullying anyone who speaks ill of it, but that's not the same thing.

The German website doesn't share the philosophy of the developers.  But you could say the same thing for anyone who breaks the rules.  Anyone who breaks the rules the developers make probably has a different philosophy from the developers, and that's why they're breaking the rules.

The rule about spoilers wasn't to prevent people from accidentally seeing spoilers.  The developers don't want people to be able to find spoilers, period, unless they belong to a guild or have friends who are in the know.

I'm not saying I agree with it or disagree with.  Really I just don't care, and all I'm doing is trying to help other people understand what the fighting is about.

I never called Hiraghm a liar.  I just said he was lying.  He said something he knew wasn't true.

  Hiraghm

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Joined: 8/26/08
Posts: 39

8/28/08 1:22:39 AM#47
Originally posted by pstruth

I don't want to destroy the game.  I'm just unhappy with way things happen in the community and I think things can improve.

I don't understand how being critical of the game can destroy it when it's supposed to be a community effort and we're supposed to be testers.

I'm not saying everyone is being mean to me, because that simply isn't true.

I do think there are certain personality types that go around defending the game by bullying anyone who speaks ill of it, but that's not the same thing.

The German website doesn't share the philosophy of the developers.  But you could say the same thing for anyone who breaks the rules.  Anyone who breaks the rules the developers make probably has a different philosophy from the developers, and that's why they're breaking the rules.

The rule about spoilers wasn't to prevent people from accidentally seeing spoilers.  The developers don't want people to be able to find spoilers, period, unless they belong to a guild or have friends who are in the know.

I'm not saying I agree with it or disagree with.  Really I just don't care, and all I'm doing is trying to help other people understand what the fighting is about.

I never called Hiraghm a liar.  I just said he was lying.  He said something he knew wasn't true.


 

I already told you how your criticism can destroy the game. Destroy the morale of the players. Destroy the morale of the staff. That will destroy the game.

Thanks for telling us what the writers of the rules meant when they wrote the rules. Clairvoyance is such a special gift.

If you really don't care about the spoiler rule, drop it. Don't argue about things you don't care about. Don't you know there's an energy crisis?

When you tell someone he is lying... you are calling him a liar.

I hope that last example reveals to everyone here what you are about, how you think, and why they shouldn't use your opinion to judge Planeshift.

 


"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean do many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."

 

  apsendplayer

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 21

8/30/08 2:43:32 AM#48
Originally posted by Dihenis
Originally posted by pstruth

Apparently Hiraghm, you were lying when you said you read my posts. (...)

 

... you claim to still be playing PS but that doesn't match up with what others have said.(...)

 

It really isn't hard to figure out who it is.  Read the other threads here, you'll get enough hints to put the picture together.

  pstruth

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Joined: 9/22/07
Posts: 253

8/30/08 2:58:22 AM#49

"When you tell someone he is lying... you are calling him a liar."

I would never stoop down to the level of personal attacks. :)

  apsendplayer

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Posts: 21

8/30/08 3:19:44 AM#50
Originally posted by pstruth

"When you tell someone he is lying... you are calling him a liar."

I would never stoop down to the level of personal attacks. :)

 

But you did and do so I'm a little confused why you say you never would.  Please read your own posts.  You have personally attacked numerous times.

  pstruth

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Posts: 253

8/30/08 4:31:52 AM#51
Originally posted by apsendplayer
Originally posted by pstruth

"When you tell someone he is lying... you are calling him a liar."

I would never stoop down to the level of personal attacks. :)

 

But you did and do so I'm a little confused why you say you never would.  Please read your own posts.  You have personally attacked numerous times.

 

That's awful.  What did numerous times ever do to me?

  apsendplayer

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Posts: 21

8/30/08 10:42:45 AM#52
Originally posted by pstruth
Originally posted by apsendplayer
Originally posted by pstruth

"When you tell someone he is lying... you are calling him a liar."

I would never stoop down to the level of personal attacks. :)

 

But you did and do so I'm a little confused why you say you never would.  Please read your own posts.  You have personally attacked numerous times.

 

That's awful.  What did numerous times ever do to me?

 

Wow.  That totally sounds like something 'M'athy would say.  Just throw in the woe is me and you've got it perfect. (or better yet, "please don't make me feel worse than I already do."...  Try that one too...  Then you'd be a dead ringer for her.)

I'm done with you 'M'.  You played it well, but in the end your true colors showed through.  People will see you for who you really are.

Good luck with your personal quest of destruction Don Quixote.  I wish you luck with your attack against the windmills.

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