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deviliscious
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10/02/09 8:50:17 AM#41
Originally posted by ng_min_teck I have repeatedly On these forums stated the pros and cons on Runescape. The reason I say they suck is the cons far outweigh the good. The Biggest reason they suck is because they do not respect their player base, and have repeatedly told them one thing and done another. I do not respect a company that does not tell their players the truth. When they say one thing and their actions do another, or they make up excuses that the majority of the gaiming industry knows not to be true, how is that deserving of respect? If they had respected their customers, told them the truth and at least made an attempt to address players concerns with a friendly, informative manner, rather than be rude I might feel different. Their biggest fault is poor customer service, and ignoring player concerns. It honestly appears as if they think of what would be the best thing they could do to the game, and then do the exact opposite. That is madness...
well u mean f2p can play member thing? No, I do not mean that at all. never refered to the F2P game, only the paying customers. I have no idea what you are refering to. lol you know some ideas is not possible at all,like people ask for change name and it just have it that player allow to change user name,jagex already do the best their can already,java technolgoy cannot expect much that if may crash because in that time the java technology are not good Name change is such a minor feature, purely for cosmetic reasons and has no effect on actual gameplay. I could care less about name change features and feel this was a complete waste of developer time. There are so many more things that need to be addressed that are not cosmetic. ,see ajax in wikipedia and you will know what i mean ,jagex main goal is play the game with download and the speed is fast,but many people ideas about need alot action ,this cause slow or lag in game.jagex already have q&a seesion and you can contact them by facebook,twiiter and more too so they already attempt to address their customer. Why are you refering to the wiki? Even in schools here if you use the Wiki as a refernce your professor will throw your paper away and laugh you out of the classroom. It is not the method they contact, but rather the quality of their service. This is just another way Jagex avoids solving the problem. Customer service should be friendly, knowlegdeable, and genuinely try to adress their customers concerns. Sure they can handle nonimportant minor things, but when it comes to a real reason to contact customer support they are rude, and ignorant about the situation, either that or they do not bother responding at all. The only ideas it seems they consider are that of their target audeince " kids" . the ones that are for practical application to improve the games for adults are ignored. Did you read this entire thread before posting? you have not addressed any of the content of this actual thread. Maybe it is a language barrier and you do not understand. I do not think the games flaws have anything to do with the f2p content or name changes .. or unpractical application. It has to do with common sense. |
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ng_min_teck
Apprentice Member
Joined: 9/27/09
The secret of a good life is to have the right loyalties and hold them in the right scale of values. |
10/03/09 3:26:19 AM#42
Originally posted by deviliscious I have repeatedly On these forums stated the pros and cons on Runescape. The reason I say they suck is the cons far outweigh the good. The Biggest reason they suck is because they do not respect their player base, and have repeatedly told them one thing and done another. I do not respect a company that does not tell their players the truth. When they say one thing and their actions do another, or they make up excuses that the majority of the gaiming industry knows not to be true, how is that deserving of respect? If they had respected their customers, told them the truth and at least made an attempt to address players concerns with a friendly, informative manner, rather than be rude I might feel different. Their biggest fault is poor customer service, and ignoring player concerns. It honestly appears as if they think of what would be the best thing they could do to the game, and then do the exact opposite. That is madness...
well u mean f2p can play member thing? No, I do not mean that at all. never refered to the F2P game, only the paying customers. I have no idea what you are refering to. lol you know some ideas is not possible at all,like people ask for change name and it just have it that player allow to change user name,jagex already do the best their can already,java technolgoy cannot expect much that if may crash because in that time the java technology are not good Name change is such a minor feature, purely for cosmetic reasons and has no effect on actual gameplay. I could care less about name change features and feel this was a complete waste of developer time. There are so many more things that need to be addressed that are not cosmetic. ,see ajax in wikipedia and you will know what i mean ,jagex main goal is play the game with download and the speed is fast,but many people ideas about need alot action ,this cause slow or lag in game.jagex already have q&a seesion and you can contact them by facebook,twiiter and more too so they already attempt to address their customer. Why are you refering to the wiki? Even in schools here if you use the Wiki as a refernce your professor will throw your paper away and laugh you out of the classroom. It is not the method they contact, but rather the quality of their service. This is just another way Jagex avoids solving the problem. Customer service should be friendly, knowlegdeable, and genuinely try to adress their customers concerns. Sure they can handle nonimportant minor things, but when it comes to a real reason to contact customer support they are rude, and ignorant about the situation, either that or they do not bother responding at all. The only ideas it seems they consider are that of their target audeince " kids" . the ones that are for practical application to improve the games for adults are ignored. Did you read this entire thread before posting? you have not addressed any of the content of this actual thread. Maybe it is a language barrier and you do not understand. I do not think the games flaws have anything to do with the f2p content or name changes .. or unpractical application. It has to do with common sense.
jagex customer service is friendly thought as you said why use wiki becuase that is evidence and reliable source ,as you said people can anyhow edit but do you know they will check it that wheather is true or false,and i just tell you how wiki work that if people try anyhow editing repeating ,they will use ip ban to ban you as i said jagex customer service is friendly that they commucation with player by facebook,youtube,twiiter,jagex q&a session.i already repeat lot of time but you still don'y get it |
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deviliscious
Novice Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
10/03/09 8:04:28 AM#43
Originally posted by ng_min_teck
well u mean f2p can play member thing? No, I do not mean that at all. never refered to the F2P game, only the paying customers. I have no idea what you are refering to. lol you know some ideas is not possible at all,like people ask for change name and it just have it that player allow to change user name,jagex already do the best their can already,java technolgoy cannot expect much that if may crash because in that time the java technology are not good Name change is such a minor feature, purely for cosmetic reasons and has no effect on actual gameplay. I could care less about name change features and feel this was a complete waste of developer time. There are so many more things that need to be addressed that are not cosmetic. ,see ajax in wikipedia and you will know what i mean ,jagex main goal is play the game with download and the speed is fast,but many people ideas about need alot action ,this cause slow or lag in game.jagex already have q&a seesion and you can contact them by facebook,twiiter and more too so they already attempt to address their customer. Why are you refering to the wiki? Even in schools here if you use the Wiki as a refernce your professor will throw your paper away and laugh you out of the classroom. It is not the method they contact, but rather the quality of their service. This is just another way Jagex avoids solving the problem. Customer service should be friendly, knowlegdeable, and genuinely try to adress their customers concerns. Sure they can handle nonimportant minor things, but when it comes to a real reason to contact customer support they are rude, and ignorant about the situation, either that or they do not bother responding at all. The only ideas it seems they consider are that of their target audeince " kids" . the ones that are for practical application to improve the games for adults are ignored. Did you read this entire thread before posting? you have not addressed any of the content of this actual thread. Maybe it is a language barrier and you do not understand. I do not think the games flaws have anything to do with the f2p content or name changes .. or unpractical application. It has to do with common sense.
jagex customer service is friendly thought as you said why use wiki becuase that is evidence and reliable source ,as you said people can anyhow edit but do you know they will check it that wheather is true or false,and i just tell you how wiki work that if people try anyhow editing repeating ,they will use ip ban to ban you as i said jagex customer service is friendly that they commucation with player by facebook,youtube,twiiter,jagex q&a session.i already repeat lot of time but you still don'y get it LOL wanna make a bet. Go to the OT section and ask if WIKI is a reliable source for anything and you will get laughed out of the forum. CUstomer service is supposed to be 1. friendly 2. knowledgable about their product 3. genuinely try to help their customers solve any issues or concerns they may have. It does not matter if they have facebook, twitter, question and A. What matters is when you contact them it is how your concerns are addressed. Not the methods they have to promote their game. Do they have a phone number where you can call and talk to a live person to help you step by step solve your problem? Do they have a live chat where they can talk to you one on one to help you solve an issue? When you write them in regards to an issue, are they prompt, knowledgeable and give a personal response directly addressing your issue? NO they do not. And if you read what many other have said on this forum, they were not just rude to me. They have been rude repeatedly to many players.
More on WIKI: Patent and trade office Wiki UNRELIABLE Wikipedia determined as unreliable source for school work by students There is a very high instance of errors in Wikipedia.
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ng_min_teck
Apprentice Member
Joined: 9/27/09
The secret of a good life is to have the right loyalties and hold them in the right scale of values. |
10/03/09 11:05:31 PM#44
lol you still don't understand the system nevermind you will know until you are one of the admin,like you said about customer service that they already improve that you don't belive you can ask your friend mike that jagex actually commcation with them in facebook,twiiter etc. |
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deviliscious
Novice Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
10/04/09 1:34:46 AM#45
Originally posted by ng_min_teck I hope they do improve their customer support for runescape. I could care less about mechscape however.. The whole " mech " thing isn't for me, maybe because I am a girl. They interact with players and actually answer their questions that day? From what I have seen on their q&A it has been about lame topics, not serious ones....
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ng_min_teck
Apprentice Member
Joined: 9/27/09
The secret of a good life is to have the right loyalties and hold them in the right scale of values. |
10/04/09 6:51:42 AM#46
Originally posted by deviliscious I hope they do improve their customer support for runescape. I could care less about mechscape however.. The whole " mech " thing isn't for me, maybe because I am a girl. They interact with players and actually answer their questions that day? From what I have seen on their q&A it has been about lame topics, not serious ones....
you said you already never play rs,so how you know isn't useful? |
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10/06/09 9:22:40 PM#47
Originally posted by ng_min_teck
you said you already never play rs,so how you know isn't useful? WHO CARES about the runescape of today, when all your game offers is a useless cape for hours of grinding? Customer service is still a bot-controlled FAILURE compared to those of AQW or even FLYFF. Who cares about Jagex connecting with any of those people through sites that aren't even for customer service? For goodness sakes get over it. Runescape customer service sucks, and we have EXPERIENCED THE SUCK in it. Don't expect any right minded person to buy that in-coherent crap you just mentioned because, from experience, runescape customer service is a shame to the game itself and is as bad or even worse than GW's customer service. The question is, why even play Runescape when it is not even usefull? Why click on some random log for a useless cape when you can't even sell that cape or all the experience points for some pension-based cash? Be serious, kid. You can't even spell properly and you try to correct a person who has played RS longer than you. You fail, dude. |
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ng_min_teck
Apprentice Member
Joined: 9/27/09
The secret of a good life is to have the right loyalties and hold them in the right scale of values. |
10/07/09 3:50:19 AM#48
Originally posted by Blissey
you said you already never play rs,so how you know isn't useful? WHO CARES about the runescape of today, when all your game offers is a useless cape for hours of grinding? Customer service is still a bot-controlled FAILURE compared to those of AQW or even FLYFF. Who cares about Jagex connecting with any of those people through sites that aren't even for customer service? For goodness sakes get over it. Runescape customer service sucks, and we have EXPERIENCED THE SUCK in it. Don't expect any right minded person to buy that in-coherent crap you just mentioned because, from experience, runescape customer service is a shame to the game itself and is as bad or even worse than GW's customer service. The question is, why even play Runescape when it is not even usefull? Why click on some random log for a useless cape when you can't even sell that cape or all the experience points for some pension-based cash? Be serious, kid. You can't even spell properly and you try to correct a person who has played RS longer than you. You fail, dude.
for your information is past so you cannot said runescape failure,btw you said nobody care why you still at this forum post thing about runescape lol |
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10/07/09 10:17:14 AM#49
Originally posted by ng_min_teck WHO CARES about the runescape of today, when all your game offers is a useless cape for hours of grinding? Customer service is still a bot-controlled FAILURE compared to those of AQW or even FLYFF. Who cares about Jagex connecting with any of those people through sites that aren't even for customer service? For goodness sakes get over it. Runescape customer service sucks, and we have EXPERIENCED THE SUCK in it. Don't expect any right minded person to buy that in-coherent crap you just mentioned because, from experience, runescape customer service is a shame to the game itself and is as bad or even worse than GW's customer service. The question is, why even play Runescape when it is not even usefull? Why click on some random log for a useless cape when you can't even sell that cape or all the experience points for some pension-based cash? Be serious, kid. You can't even spell properly and you try to correct a person who has played RS longer than you. You fail, dude.
for your information is past so you cannot said runescape failure,btw you said nobody care why you still at this forum post thing about runescape lol
Don't be a fool. The topic is named "the flaws of Runescape" for a definite reason. Runescape has more flaws than you think, and time doesn't care if information is obsolete or not. I just checked your panzy game site and gosh! I don't see anything new, good, or even redeeming. For goodness sake, learn how to respect people who have played RS longer than you. I've been playing Runescape longer than you've been clicking on those panzy rocks, dude. Runescape still sucks, and posting a thing about it re-inforces the fact. Who cares? Opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. The fact that I post in this forum is not a key element in a debate. Sheesh, when will you Runescapers learn how to spell like a human being?! I still fail to recognize how clicking on a "rock" for a "useless cape" will help your vocabulary. Maybe you should quit clicking on useless pixels and go back to school? I'm sure once you get more intelligent, you would be more able to see clearly the flaws of runescape-just as the title depicts. OWNED. |
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deviliscious
Novice Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
10/14/09 1:23:36 AM#50
* another new flaw of runescape They have damaged the RPG part of their game by allowing change username. It kills the player reputation system, blacklist system, causes confusion amongst guild members and friends that are gone from the game for a while. It also allows for 3rd party RMT to sell accounts easier, because they can now allow customers to change their names on any account they sell to whatever they wish.
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10/19/09 7:21:12 AM#51
Why don't you just play Earth Eternal, it's not a kids MMO and offers more than RS. |
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deviliscious
Novice Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
10/22/09 12:11:35 AM#52
Originally posted by bobfish I can;t see myself going from a great game like Guild Wars to a "family friendly " mmo where you can run around pretending to be furry animals and frogs.. NO THANKS. Other than Guild Wars at the moment , I like FPS games, and strategy based games. What you consider a " kids game" and what I consider a " kids game" appears to be two entirely differnt things. |
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10/22/09 4:40:24 AM#53
Completely agree with everything. Killing the Old Wilderness was the single most stupid thing Jagex could've done to RS. It WAS the best PvP area hands down, out of any MMO out there. Finallly! Somebody else realizes their Useless Forums!! I played runscape ever since it was Classic 2-and-a-half D style back in 01, and even THEN they didnt go near their suggestion forum. I suggested things from mounts (Which they tell you to NEVER suggest now-Along with all the other good ideas) to player owned houses and buyable(and USEFUL) pets. At one point I completely outlined a potential 2 and a half page non class specific skill tree which was promptly deleted with that famous "Serious...Jagex...blaa...blaa" line they love to use. RWTers and Bots? Dont even want to get into that.....
Final verdict? Runescape went down the tubes with the end of the old wilderness and the beginning of the dumb skills. (I.E. Summoning, Farming...).
At least there's a good community! Oh wait.....-_- Big Red Dragons. Doesnt get much better than that. |
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10/22/09 8:50:36 PM#54
Originally posted by DragonsBeRed
While you can fault Jagex for a whole lot of things, you have to be crazy to say they don't respond to user suggestions. While they may never have responded in the forums to your particular suggestions (or perhaps even deleted suggestions that the specific forum FAQ said would be deleted if posted, in order to keep the forum uncluttered), they make changes to Runescape in response to user feedback all the time.
And while I understand that PKers miss the old wilderness and full loot PKing, Jagex had a clear and understandable reason for getting rid of it: Real World Traders. RWT and botting is largely gone from Runescape nowadays. Or at least is was when I stopped playing it within the last year.
And skills like Summoning and Farming were bad? Come on, they were in response to user suggestions (which you claim they ignore) and were incredibly useful. I think they were actually great additions (especially if you wanted herbs for herblore and didn't want to kill mobs day in and day out for 'em), and integrate well into the existing skills.
Runescape's shortcomings are legion: graphics, gameplay, the unequaled grind, the huge population of low-lives, the cheating culture, the lack of group/community, amongst others. But your criticisms are either reflective of a lack of understanding or flat out false. |
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deviliscious
Novice Member
Joined: 11/09/07
"Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth" |
10/22/09 10:01:07 PM#55
Originally posted by PhelimReagh
While you can fault Jagex for a whole lot of things, you have to be crazy to say they don't respond to user suggestions. While they may never have responded in the forums to your particular suggestions (or perhaps even deleted suggestions that the specific forum FAQ said would be deleted if posted, in order to keep the forum uncluttered), they make changes to Runescape in response to user feedback all the time.
And while I understand that PKers miss the old wilderness and full loot PKing, Jagex had a clear and understandable reason for getting rid of it: Real World Traders. RWT and botting is largely gone from Runescape nowadays. Or at least is was when I stopped playing it within the last year.
And skills like Summoning and Farming were bad? Come on, they were in response to user suggestions (which you claim they ignore) and were incredibly useful. I think they were actually great additions (especially if you wanted herbs for herblore and didn't want to kill mobs day in and day out for 'em), and integrate well into the existing skills.
Runescape's shortcomings are legion: graphics, gameplay, the unequaled grind, the huge population of low-lives, the cheating culture, the lack of group/community, amongst others. But your criticisms are either reflective of a lack of understanding or flat out false. I am not sure where you have been over the past decade that Jagex has worked on Runescape, but while I was there they DID NOT respond to player suggestions. For years, players asked for good 99 stat items.. something that could make you chop wood faster, stop burning manta rays to mine faster, but what did they get instead? A piece of crap emote cape. In fact, their response to most everything that the core player base requested was " we do not feel that is for Runescape" . we suggested engineering, ship battles, new armor types.. but instead they chose to cater to "turnover" and focus on making their game a Junior mmo rather than try to work with keeping their core player base. I definately disagree with you on "Jagex listens to their players" stance. I have seen this for too many years from them to feel otherwise. Jagex's removal of the wilderness and trade was the worst possible method to combat RWT ( or RMT as every other game has called it for many years) and it was not even effective. Sellers just have acc training services, sell full loaded accounts, so you just have higher level bots, it did not solve anything, and ruined the gameplay. Programs access their client in a different manner than regular players, so they have solutions that could have been implemented to stop botting that had no effect on gameplay at all. Many websites ban IP addresses, this is somethng that could be easily implemented with a HD Ip detection tool that loads at start of game. You refuse the HD detection tool, and you don;t play. Simple as that. This would stop ISP IP confusion issues, and make sure they are banning the HD's not the ISP IP. You see, yes maybe naive 12 yr olds may fall for this nonsense about using this to combat RMT as an actual solution, but the rest of the gaming world sees this as a joke. Many games have combatted 3rd party RMT in better ways than Jagex chose, though what Jagex chose was within their " new framework" which was taking the game in a direction to attract young children. Young children didn;t like the wilderness because they lost all their stuff and cried to mommy. Young children were upset because they chose to give their stuff away so they had to prevent everyone else from being able to do so to appease them. This was the direction they chose and all of this nonsense with the trade and wilderness fell into the master plan of having a completely child friendly babysitting service by the second to third quarter of 2009. Farming and summoning were bad, when the players had been asking for engineering and ship building wars instead. Summoning is like having a pokemon BS, not even decent summoning like you get from playing a necromancer where you can summon multiple evil demons to attack your opponents in pvp like you can do on Guild wars. No instead they went the cute pokemon route aimed at young children. Lets go collect some pets.. lmao... Now I agree with what you stated about their other shortcomings, but I do strongly disagree with your assestment of the other information as being false. They repeatedly throughout the years provided some of the worst customer service I have ever dealt with, were rude and treated players and their ideas poorly, and disregarded their core player base in favor of creating a game that was a " turnstall" or in their own words: "In the Quarter 2 or 3 of 2009, the Parental Controls dashboard will be launched. This provides parents with the means to set how often and how long their children can play Runescape, set various chat settings and have various controls over their children's Friends List – such as the ability to add friends with or without parental approval. Just as MUDs were the precursors to MMORPGs, Henrique described Runscape as a Junior MMORPG. A great training ground for other MMORPGs." www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/37/feature/2065 |
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Croady4
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Joined: 12/31/09
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1/01/10 12:03:17 AM#56
personally i think runescape is a good game i enjoy the wide range of skills but they have the same weapons i would have made a variety not just bronze iron steel so on to dragon and barrows make some new weapons there are only a select few that are 1 of a kind like the dark bow one of a kind no other double shooting bow so runescape overall a alright game not worth wasting most of your day on it tho Live Life With FREEWILL!!!!! |
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4/15/10 4:53:32 AM#57
Have you all heard about the 'Load Of Dung' that dumb Jagex has now added to stuff up Runescape more than ever before? Since now it only takes 5k of experience to go to http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws everyone can now go and protest how Jagex just want to make money without any consideration to the players. "Dungeoneering' is a new Skill (joke) which vertually everyone calls a minigame instead. What it really is, another of their games that was a failure (probably Mechscape) that was full of Runescape skills, but being useless it got shoved into Runescape instead and now there is a game within this game and it ruins all purpose of playing Runescape. Imagine how few actually managed 99s compared to how many started the game of Runescape and now Dung is a lvl120 skill needing 104m experience which is the equivalent of 8+ lvl99 skills added together, worse still there's no benefit from Tears or Penguins. Added to this it is fighting all the way so lvl3 skillers are prevented here, a lvl50 can run ahead of real players and they kill weak things to get most of the experience instead of the high lvl player protecting them while collecting valuable items. Omg I can't be bothered wasting more time thinking about the worst scam Jagex have ever done to our game we used to enjoy!
If you have the time please go to Runescape Forums to tell them how big a nuubs they are, if their forums are over-run with complaints they may get forced to finally remove a mess from a half-pie game now! |
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deviliscious
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Joined: 11/09/07
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7/19/10 8:55:09 PM#58
Originally posted by Jalice888 LOL it doesn;t matter who can post in their forums, they still just delete any topics they don;t want people to know about. They refuse to allow any of their own corporate site data to be posted on their own forums, they refuse to allow interviews with Jagex in the gaming world to be posted, they still refuse to allow any of their own players to receive any information about their game that they themselves do not place on there themselves, so what would be the point? It isn;t like they are suddenly going to start telling their players what they tell the rest of the gaming industry. LMAO! |
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7/19/10 9:08:52 PM#59
Originally posted by deviliscious I remember seeing this video on youtube where a certain "dude" wins an rs video making competition and gets to tour the Jagex Studio in Cambridge. Upon arrival at the studio, the "dude" pulled out his video cam and started recording. Andrew Gower then came out, his face covered with his hands, and told the dude to stop recording. A short, hilarious annotation followed. The next video, where the "dude" visits some punk-ass theme park with Jagex staff, is the most intriguing. If I remember it right, the "dude" was trying to take a video of Mod Hector, but Hector turned around and disappeared. This this some kind of paranoia? What are they ashamed of? |
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7/20/10 1:14:22 AM#60
This game had its moments in the past. But in the present what are the moments that we can think of that are good? The only ONE is that they add content on a regular basis even though MOST of it is lame, they still do it. |
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