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  glord

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6/17/08 9:45:58 AM#1

Every MMORPG dev out there seems to have no respect for the RP community of MMORPGs. They would rather implement instance after instance, raid boss after raid boss, so on and so forth than put in a few features to make the roleplayers happy. Seriously, all the '1337' gamers want to do is get some retarded pixilated items to show people on their retarded pixilated character and say "Oh look! I have the same thing 5,000 other people of my class have on this server so I'm better than everybody but the others who have it!".

As usual, when I'm posting here I'm posting to request any games that have an established RP community. EVE has an RP community but I just find the game not to my taste. I'm giving CoH a try -again-. Is there something out there for us RPers? I would like to give UO a try but to my knowledge the, Europa is the only server good for RP and I am not on the same time schedule as those people.

  User Deleted
6/17/08 3:39:07 PM#2

Well, you can forget about Age of Conan. It's just basically WoW with a different skin.

 

If you are looking for RP over combat, you might want to try the open-ended LARPs within Second Life. A bit less polished than you may be used to in standard MMORPGs, but the RP can be very interesting.

  Apple_lie

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Joined: 6/18/08
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6/18/08 10:13:06 PM#3

 it is not so hard..all depends on which kind of game you are for..for example, if you like lovely games..maybe could try hello kitty online. if you like war games, please try WOW..

  kaskus

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6/19/08 9:13:23 PM#4

hello kitty online??haven't heard it i just though it is a brand of a kids clothing or a kids toys

  Caellach

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Joined: 1/05/08
Posts: 25

6/20/08 6:14:04 AM#5

It really depends on what you expect. Too many here seem to have too high expectations when it comes to RP in MMORPGs. Yes, yes, we would all like a perfect community of RPers which works like well-oiled clockwork, but until someone with resources and true passion for RP makes a move, it will be a far-off dream.

The thing is - you can RP almost anywhere, as long as it's on a RP-server. It won't ever be perfect, but it is something. And when you're on a RP-server, RP-haters can just shut their mouths. I've RPed on WoW, Moonglade server (supposedly one of the worst RP servers out there) and had countless hours of fun. Wherever you choose to RP, you have to be prepared to meet everything from nude, dancing lolzers to RP-haters to elitists who could write books on their own rules. You gotta deal. End of story. If you can't, just give up the idea of finding teh awesum RP communites and switch to other forms for RP.

 

If I were you though, I would pick a MMORPG that fits my taste, sniff around a bit and see which RP-server is more or less decent, and go for it. Find a small community on that server and make your own fun.

  Lilalu

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Joined: 12/20/07
Posts: 68

6/20/08 8:08:30 AM#6

Yes, I did exactly what Ceallach says. I was looking for an MMO for a while, which suits my taste. I found, there is none. All of them are just stupid and very boring level and item hunting games. I don´t know, what is wrong with people and why they spend money on this sort of game for more than just a view days. In the beginning it´s nice, to watch the grafics, if they are good. But  what, when you have ssen them? Is it really fun to someone, to get Ubersword number 100 and after this, number 101?

I love to play with other people (especially role-play with other people), but I do not like, what you have to do in the such games besides talking.

Now I don´t try it anymore. I just quit playing MMOs. I am sorry for the people, but I don´t miss the games at all :D.

  Caellach

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6/21/08 4:07:20 AM#7

Well, that's different, Lilalu. You seem to dislike the content of the games as much as the community, so no wonder you have that attitude towards MMORPGs. It's all fine though; I guess this gaming-style isn't for everyone. Methinks you have to enjoy the game-content to actually RP in any MMO. It's impossible to stray completely from the game itself and just use it as an advanced chatroom for RP. To use me as an example again - I would be truly bored if WoW was without RP, but sometimes, when the people from my community were offline and there was nothing to do, I was completely fine with following the game (questing, instancing, farming) on my own.

  Lilalu

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6/21/08 5:14:04 AM#8

The problem is, all online games have more or less the same kind of content. That´s fine for people who like it of course and therefore nothing is wrong with this games. The problem is, there are no other online games for people, who enjoy a different kind of playstyle. Game developers should be a little more creative. There are so many different kinds of single-player games. Why not bring more different gaming principles online?

What I miss is a game without being forced to play the role of a hero, who is constantly slaughtering boring monsters and gathering items.

For example the idea of game like A Tale in the Desert is great! Solving a task like building cities and in the end maybe even a pyramid together with others is very interesting an a lot of fun in my eyes! And yes, I like to play single-player strategy games a lot, like e.g. Ceasar IV. What I like here is buidling cities and having a healthy economy. By the way, this games have a lot of players. They are by far no niche products!

So why is there only one such MMO (with very very bad grafics!) and why are there so many many "monster slaying" MMOs? It would be possible to have a lot of different settings (e.g. medieval, having to build a castle, ancient Rome, science fiction ...).

What I think: The old argument between role-players and non-role-players often is an argument between action players and non-action-players as well (all combinations are possible, like e.g. action-role-player or non-action-non-role-player). I´d call myself a non-action-role-player.

In the usual kind of game for players like me, there is nothing to do. Only if we get a glimpse of RP sometimes, we are happy. But this is so rare, it is not worth paying for and it´s to much wasted time to run through the otherwise boring game worlds, to look for it.

I think, developers forget about millions of potential players, who enjoy cooperative building or problem solving more than action and fighting!

 

 

  User Deleted
6/21/08 5:24:58 AM#9

LoTRO seems to have a decent RP'ing community I believe on the Landroval server.  Never tried it myself but you can actually mark (change color of characters Name) yourself as RP'ing.  There appears to be plenty of people RP'ing in that game.  But I also think it's how you want to present yourself.  If you want to RP you should be creative enough to do just that, without all the bells and whistles provided by the devs.

Anyway if I were you I would check out some of the RP posts in LoTRO.  See if that is to your liking.

  Caellach

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Joined: 1/05/08
Posts: 25

6/21/08 5:43:56 PM#10

Ya, you've told me before. And I agree with you, it's such a damn shame. But trust me, even for us who love to run around as heroes it's almost impossible to find a decent MMORPG. Y'know, I've tried out and reviewed at least 12-15 different MMORPGs, worked on my own before my graphic card said it could go to hell, and finally came to the decision that - WoW - of all games had the best premises for RP. I'm back where I started.

 

Ironically, the games with best RP-potential are the singleplayer ones. Perhaps an online version of The Settlers - Rise of an Empire would be something for you.

 

And maybe I'll one day get my multiplayer version of Oblivion. Until then, I'll just try to slip into a small community somewhere again. It's the best solution for those who want to RP in MMOGs right now.

  Lilalu

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Joined: 12/20/07
Posts: 68

6/22/08 1:45:49 AM#11

Yes, an online version of the settlers (of course I own the single player version :D) would be great! But it should not be the way, one plays against others. I´d rather role-play one of the settlers, work as a woodcrafter, fisherwoman or whatever and add to the success of the commuity as a whole.

To WoW: I have tried it and I hate it! Not the game itself, that´s boring, but role-playing would be possible. But it has the worst community of all the games, I tried. I got insulted, laughed at, may char got sexually offended and every single role-playing event we tried to do was disturbed by some crazy idiots.

It was almost the same in LoTRo. In europe there are special role-playing servers and the situation is somewhat better than in WoW. But still there are to many idiots and to less is done about them.

No, I will never ever spend money on such lousy support for role-players! I think, if people had more proud and would not pay for almost any bullshit, just to be able to play online, developers would have to think about better games and better support. But of course, as long as we pay for the lousy games, there is no reason for them to think about better ones!

  Cardioes

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Joined: 3/28/04
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6/23/08 4:46:59 PM#12

As far as role-playing, the only MMO I've tested/played in the past 11 years where it was even focused upon was "Nexus The Kingdom of the Winds". The entire game is community based (to the point where it is almost player run), and generally revolves arround role-play. Its been out for more than a decade, and has a small and strong community. The GMs are also very active in the game, constantly bringing events and updates, on an almost biweekly basis; and every event is part of the game's roleplay. I doubt any other MMO in the gamelist can compare as far as rp, but because of the graphics/some other aspects, many new age gamers are immediately turned off.

I also ran into quite a few people who would role-play heavily in FFXI. Perhaps you wont see it widespread, but if you search for certain guilds/clans in games I'm sure you can find those that will rp with you ^^.

  jarish

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Joined: 4/15/08
Posts: 526

6/23/08 4:51:21 PM#13

Yeah your best bet is Landroval server in LOTRO. There are a bunch of people there that RP and put on parties etc. The music system in LOTRO helps out alot as well as the putfit system/housing, etc.

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  Boythin

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Joined: 6/24/08
Posts: 2

6/23/08 11:42:53 PM#14

well, maybe you should know which kind of games you like best...and then i could give you some suggestions on selecting a suitable game for you...

  Master_Razor

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Joined: 2/17/08
Posts: 226

I win.

6/27/08 11:59:02 PM#15
Originally posted by glord

Every MMORPG dev out there seems to have no respect for the RP community of MMORPGs. They would rather implement instance after instance, raid boss after raid boss, so on and so forth than put in a few features to make the roleplayers happy. Seriously, all the '1337' gamers want to do is get some retarded pixilated items to show people on their retarded pixilated character and say "Oh look! I have the same thing 5,000 other people of my class have on this server so I'm better than everybody but the others who have it!".

As usual, when I'm posting here I'm posting to request any games that have an established RP community. EVE has an RP community but I just find the game not to my taste. I'm giving CoH a try -again-. Is there something out there for us RPers? I would like to give UO a try but to my knowledge the, Europa is the only server good for RP and I am not on the same time schedule as those people.

Funny, I didn't see anymore rp going on in the rp servers on WoW than on normal servers usually. I had so much trouble just finding people to role play with I just gave up. I prefer forum role play anyway though.




  Sain34

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Joined: 9/15/04
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Why not?

7/06/08 3:51:26 AM#16

Could find yourself an actually LARP and go outside and play.

  Caldicot

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7/06/08 4:06:32 AM#17

If everyone was running around looking for RP there wouldn't be much actual RP now would it?

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  Violette

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7/06/08 5:56:57 PM#18

Believe it or not, Anarchy Online has roleplay. With the recent addition of the /rp command, players can see which other players would like to engage in it, and I've been seeing RP happening much more frequently in vicinity. There is also the Channel42 on RK1. Not to mention the existence of some orgs which are all about RP - for example, Society of Salvation, and Shattered Dreams.

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  Violette

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7/06/08 5:57:53 PM#19
Originally posted by Sain34

Could find yourself an actually LARP and go outside and play.

True - I've seen some groups on meetup.com ! :D

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  neonwire

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7/06/08 6:23:50 PM#20
Originally posted by glord

Every MMORPG dev out there seems to have no respect for the RP community of MMORPGs. They would rather implement instance after instance, raid boss after raid boss, so on and so forth than put in a few features to make the roleplayers happy. Seriously, all the '1337' gamers want to do is get some retarded pixilated items to show people on their retarded pixilated character and say "Oh look! I have the same thing 5,000 other people of my class have on this server so I'm better than everybody but the others who have it!".

As usual, when I'm posting here I'm posting to request any games that have an established RP community. EVE has an RP community but I just find the game not to my taste. I'm giving CoH a try -again-. Is there something out there for us RPers? I would like to give UO a try but to my knowledge the, Europa is the only server good for RP and I am not on the same time schedule as those people.


 

I'm afraid in a mmorpg the only "roleplaying" your gonna get is whatever people type into the chat channels. Other than that its all gonna be about gaining levels and farming phat loot. I dont think there are any mmos in which you can do anything other than that. They are all static gameworlds which you cant really affect or change so although you might have a great roleplaying idea in your head there really isnt any way to actually bring it into the game. Like I said you can just type whatever you like into the chat channels and pretend you are Lord Zarkon the mighty necromancer or some other fanciful character but I'm afraid in an mmo you are really no different to any of the other millions of cookie-cutter characters who all have equal access to all the same experiences and stuff you have.

Basicly to sum-up roleplaying is not really possible in an mmo as your experience is never going to be unique. You can have the same level of roleplaying in an mmo as you can with MSN Messenger because thats all an mmo really is - a simple single player game that can be played by lots of people at the same time and has an instant messenger attached to it.

If you want roleplaying then you are unlikely to find it in a computer game. I would recommend playing a proper roleplaying game with a group of friends. Then you are free to put your imagination to use, being able to do whatever you like and actually do things that effect the game world your character lives in. Otherwise I would just give up on the roleplaying aspect if I were you as you just arent going to get it. I'm afraid your just gonna have to grind away with the rest of the online masses.

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