We all know now that the game is far from being classified as a good mmorpg, its content is equal to a single player game, its pvp consists only of ganking (with no rewards at all) and the player made cities are...hehe...as useful and rewarding as a drunken monkey hitting his head with a vibrator! its dungeons are AWFUL , SFK of WoW (a 20th lvl dungeon) is FAR FAR more advanced and enjoying than an end game dungeon of Conan.

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

no everyone knows..some fanbois still think aoc is cool...

Definately another 4-5months, smoothing out terrain bugs, class feats, loot tables. CLEANING UP THE CODE...in general really.

Crafting would be nice to be worth something, maybe the PvP leveling system that was touted around, or making the 40+ experience as immersive as 1-20. More voice acting? Balancing classes slightly better? Fixing bugs that were reported in Beta? ...heres a stretch hire IT people to montier the forums/man the phones on release day to actually help people? Hire community Reps. to talk to your playerbase? I dunno, pick one or all..

Originally posted by cyricson

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

I wonder if the problems really have to do with insufficient development time as opposed to effective development and managing. You can take a shovel and dig a hole for 16 hours a day, but it isn't as effective or efficient as having one of those construction-things do it for you. Thats why I am relatively loathe to offer sympathy unless I actually see action otherwise. Considering its people we are talking about, and the genre offers a lot of lee-way.. yeah.

well the best parallel I can make, after experincing  how their last MMO started and how long it took em to make a compelling game system out of it. 9-12 months. They need a public test server up as well, they never have been able to in-house test any of their updates.

Originally posted by Gazenthia

Originally posted by cyricson

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

I wonder if the problems really have to do with insufficient development time as opposed to effective development and managing. You can take a shovel and dig a hole for 16 hours a day, but it isn't as effective or efficient as having one of those construction-things do it for you. Thats why I am relatively loathe to offer sympathy unless I actually see action otherwise. Considering its people we are talking about, and the genre offers a lot of lee-way.. yeah.

yeah Gaute Godager is heading this title up and he headed up AO's Shadowland expansion as well. Shadowlands launched heavily bugged and missing a lot of content as well. not to mention a lot of the promises made by Gaute about it's content turned out to be 100% false "There will be no camping in Shadowlands". I sure hope he doesn't get to make any decisions on FC's next title "The Secret World".

1 or 2 months fixing bugs

then 2 more months adding post lvl 50 content.

overall: around 4 months.

and yes i'm a disgrunted lvl 80 player.

Originally posted by Dkevlar

1 or 2 months fixing bugs

then 2 more months adding post lvl 50 content.

overall: around 4 months.

and yes i'm a disgrunted lvl 80 player.

I bet you were sold on the Border Kingdom Battle Keep system, huh?  How are them battle keep seiges going?  Glad they are in game.  Too bad only stage one cities are in game atm but you can't build stage two or three yet.  Guess it is gonna be a while before we see battle keeps.  Just glad they are in the game.  LOL

Originally posted by Dkevlar

1 or 2 months fixing bugs

then 2 more months adding post lvl 50 content.

overall: around 4 months.

and yes i'm a disgrunted lvl 80 player.

Just how many hours have you played to get to 80???

I'm asking because in 48 hours played I have made it to 29.

In my case, and probably the majority of cases from what I have seen with guildies, "missing" content will probably be in by the time we get there. *shrugs*

I DO see people who consider leveling as THE MAIN OBJECTIVE... I'm just not one of them.

i dont think it was a time limit that was the issue in this game. I think it was the way they handled Beta.  These days beta players are the results of contests, file planet subscriptions, guild who knows someone at the company, etc

With the current trend of beta invites, they could have taken another 2 years and it would have been the same.  People were too busy playing the game for fun that the vast majority never took the time to report anything substantial. 

I know there were dedicated people in the beta weeding out bugs but the ratio was very very very small to those who just wanted to get in and establish a guild presence and to post walkthroughs, etc.

Originally posted by cyricson

We all know now that the game is far from being classified as a good mmorpg, its content is equal to a single player game, its pvp consists only of ganking (with no rewards at all) and the player made cities are...hehe...as useful and rewarding as a drunken monkey hitting his head with a vibrator! its dungeons are AWFUL , SFK of WoW (a 20th lvl dungeon) is FAR FAR more advanced and enjoying than an end game dungeon of Conan.

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

The game was released when it should have been released, there is/was no need to wait.

If you miss WoW, cancel your sub, leave this area of the forums and go back to your beloved WoW !

The game is great fun, and I hate to say it (as I have fully supported the game and disagreed with 90% of whine threads) but I am beginning to think that we are playing the beta.

I can understand from an economic point of view why they released the game now (before WAR, WotLK etc) but it really doesn't feel finished.

The lack of content that has been promised. Sieges, DX10, tier cities, the cities are in fact pretty useless. The graphics and gameplay are awesome, but the itemisation and item stats are appalling and incredbily unclear.

So in answer, however long it takes them to sort these problems out. Though tbh I am glad that they released it now, will get the final touches sorted quicker than if it was unreleased, and means I get to play it now rather that wallow in the boringness that is WoW.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

 

Originally posted by cyricson

We all know now that the game is far from being classified as a good mmorpg, its content is equal to a single player game, its pvp consists only of ganking (with no rewards at all) and the player made cities are...hehe...as useful and rewarding as a drunken monkey hitting his head with a vibrator! its dungeons are AWFUL , SFK of WoW (a 20th lvl dungeon) is FAR FAR more advanced and enjoying than an end game dungeon of Conan.

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

The game was released when it should have been released, there is/was no need to wait.

 

If you miss WoW, cancle your sub, leave this area of the forums anc go back to your beloved WoW !

beloved wow? just because i compared a low lvl dungeon of wow to the "grand" and "clever" made dungeons of conan wow became my beloved game?

lol at you

Originally posted by Experimemt13

 

I have a question for you... and I am really curious.

 

Just how many hours have you played to get to 80???

I'm asking because in 48 hours played I have made it to 29.

In my case, and probably the majority of cases from what I have seen with guildies, "missing" content will probably be in by the time we get there. *shrugs*

I DO see people who consider leveling as THE MAIN OBJECTIVE... I'm just not one of them.

well, i'm what you can call a meta player, or power player. but notice if some other things actually worked (pvp, crafting mainly) I wouldnt be 80 . but since they don't, only things left are pvp, leveling and getting $. Those last 2 are kind of associated, and since pvp atm is like pointless, you dont get anything with it, i just leveled.

And it "doesnt take that much time" tbh. i had EA and had betatested it , so knew what do to on the early levels, Notice i'm on a sick leave, knee injury so i didnt had  to work. And i like to sleep about 9 hours/day and have real lunch /dinner.... so i wasn't 24/7 hours playing...

played 170 hours, got 80 @  almost at the end 31 may. But on those 170 overall, almost 20 hours  shouldnt count cause i was stuck waiting for a gm to "unstuck me", but i know people that reached 80 in 120 or so hours, what means about   3 days earlier than me.(lvl 80 is achieved  in 1/2 of the time funcom expected)

as for normal people not being affected by it... i wouldnt be that sure... even casual players are getting to 30's and 40's atm. So they will start experiencing some lack of content slowly. The real problem starts around 60.... some people are starting to get there, and at least on my guild, there is some complaining atm, since leveling is  almost a grind , and the speed of leveling is more dictated by player's will power and mental resilience than anything else.

And trust me, over lvl 60 to 80, considering the atrocity of stuff you have to kill atm, even the combat system becomes boring as hell.... and you find yourself thinking "bring auto attack back plz". 

Originally posted by cyricson

 

Originally posted by VultureSkull

 

Originally posted by cyricson

We all know now that the game is far from being classified as a good mmorpg, its content is equal to a single player game, its pvp consists only of ganking (with no rewards at all) and the player made cities are...hehe...as useful and rewarding as a drunken monkey hitting his head with a vibrator! its dungeons are AWFUL , SFK of WoW (a 20th lvl dungeon) is FAR FAR more advanced and enjoying than an end game dungeon of Conan.

so how many more months should Funcom have spent in developing this single player game?

The game was released when it should have been released, there is/was no need to wait.

 

If you miss WoW, cancle your sub, leave this area of the forums anc go back to your beloved WoW !

lol are u talking about AoC here?

 

beloved wow? just because i compared a low lvl dungeon of wow to the "grand" and "clever" made dungeons of conan wow became my beloved game?

lol at you

lol at you you mean! Why compare AoC to WoW, have u actually played any other MMO apart from WoW?

You the one playing a game that is "far from being classified as a good mmo", what is a good mmo then?

And how silly are you buying a game that is below par, more fool you i say!

yes i have played eve, l2, briefly uo and eq2.

i bought the game cause i have been lied to by Funcom, if Funcom had lifted the nda i would know that i would waste 70 euros on this half finished product.

i didnt compare wow with aoc, i compared a low lvl dungeon of wow with a high lvl dungeon of conan...even my grandmother could create dungeons like those....anyway.

i am sorry if u cant understand me.

Originally posted by cyricson

yes i have played eve, l2, briefly uo and eq2.

i bought the game cause i have been lied to by Funcom, if Funcom had lifted the nda i would know that i would waste 70 euros on this half finished product.

i didnt compare wow with aoc, i compared a low lvl dungeon of wow with a high lvl dungeon of conan...even my grandmother could create dungeons like those....anyway.

i am sorry if u cant understand me.

Sorry if you missed the news, but they did lift the NDA..

Got some names of the high lvl AoC dungeons you have been to with screens or video? No? didnt think so. But you know its ok to compare games that are years apart in release dates. Pretty logicial isnt it?

As for waiting? nah FC released when they should of. Bugs n All.

So i guess 5 years weren"t enough.