LMAO, that GameMaster is a NOOB!

Originally posted by Cymdai

I think the reason the Goons are under scrutiny is the simple fact that there's just no way for any guild to compete with them. Not because they're good (definitely not the case), but because in most cases, an entire guild could show up to battle the Goons and still be outnumbered. Don't they number to like 500 guys or something?

It destroy the fine balance of the game when 1/6 of your server is running around with the same tags. I think that's the issue; it's not FFA at that point.

However, I definitely have to say that, having read these GM convo's, my opinion of Funcom has deteriorated a bit...

Didn't people predict some guilds would naturally rise above the rest anyways? Seriously...you put a bunch of people in a no rules FFA world where they can kill each other. It's like a science experiment. Obviously people are going to flock together to survive and kill those who don't join much easier. Wouldn't you do that? If you wanted to stay on the server anyways...

Originally posted by Kyleran

Lets hope Funcom doesn't get carried away with this. FFA PVP is just what it says it is, for better or worse.  If FC wanted a more controlled PVP environment, they should have designed one like WAR is supposed to be doing.

But asking players to refrain from doing what the game mechanics are set to do is just crazy talk.

I don't gank/grief players, heck, I usually run right past almost everyone, but I support the goons and anyone elses right to do so on a FFA PVP server.

No Marquis of Queensbury rules you know.

 

The vendor (Funcom) is the one who created the mechanics of the virtual world that constitutes AoC. If there is some faulty mechanic, then they should take responsibility  and change it. But if the mechanics allow it, then players should do it imo.

And to try and implement some kind of friendly-ffa-pvp world by unleashing a slew of teenage GMs onto a gaming community is just not going to get it done.

If they can't program in safe-zones around rez points, maybe they should consider releasing the source code to the public, and letting other programmers do it, then submit the changes back to them?

/facetious off

Hai Guys!  Lets make a game where you can chop someone's head off and blood/guts spill all over the place but then punish the playerbase for being too violent.

Genius.

/troll on

I liked the part where he asked permission to say 'nigra' and got the response of 'it's kinda close'

/troll off

Ascension, you're right. Some guilds would naturally evolve into zerg guilds, it happens in every MMO.

The problem, in my eyes, is that if you're truly going for FFA, guilds of that size shouldn't be allowed anymore, because it's no longer FFA when 20% of the pop is banded together.

If anything, guilds should be forced to be smaller, just to ensure a lot of PvP action.

Originally posted by Cymdai

Ascension, you're right. Some guilds would naturally evolve into zerg guilds, it happens in every MMO.

The problem, in my eyes, is that if you're truly going for FFA, guilds of that size shouldn't be allowed anymore, because it's no longer FFA when 20% of the pop is banded together.

If anything, guilds should be forced to be smaller, just to ensure a lot of PvP action.

Actually that is the very definition of Free For All.

it wasn't stated as a FFA* server.

* denoting certain actions not deemed fair by the rest of the gaming server community

Originally posted by Emeraq

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Originally posted by Enigma

The official statment from the official forums

So, there seems to be some confusion on both sides of the issue.

Let's try to clarify the situation, and then perhaps we can get somewhere.

PvP is acceptable in all shapes or forms. We have built-in mechanics that allow the player being killed to find a way out of it.. When those mechanics fail or do not function as intended we will step in. Until then we will be as hands off as possible.

Now, we have a lot of players, a lot of servers, and a lot of petitions, as you may know. We do get a lot of petitions on Deathwhisper about "griefing". When do we take action? When it crosses the line. You can camp someone until the next day if you want. More power to you.

What you cannot do is verbally threaten them or use inappropriate language. You cannot use exploits or bugs to kill other players, or for any reason, for that matter. The game is rated M, but that does not mean you can use racial slurs or issue personal attacks.

In this case, the GM was seeing a lot of reports of griefing with regards to SA's guild. He didn't say you couldn't pvp. He made the honest mistake of giving out his personal opinion that maybe keeping a lower profile might be handy in avoiding a negative reputation. Obviously, it was a mistake. If you feel like it, bring all 300 of your friends, enemies, or whatever and beat each other senseless.

They also stated if another person posts a link to the screenshot of the GM they will perma ban their forum access. You know....I had a lot of respect for Funcom and their professionalism.

Who the hell are they hiring these days?

It seems that our policies are not clear cut enough, and we will make every effort to clarify them so that there is absolutely no question as to what is appropriate and what is not.

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Apparently more crap is hitting the forums over there too (screenshots posted as this will be closed in second)

 

I have no problem with this one at all. I feel like the GM does that rez zone camping, and rez killing are both classic examples of griefing. And players that do it are assholes. :)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is nothing but a epic failure.

You dont think this is a 100% proof that Funcom should have built there game arround PvP instead of  prioritating on good graphics and boobs? Age of Conan PvP is the laughing stock on the internet as of now. If AoC fanbois fails to understand this EPIC FAILURE to bad for you. Good luck forcing yourself into this game in the future trying to have fun. Youll all finally realize that Age of Conan is a epic failure concerning PvP.

Darkfall will soon, very soon blow you all away. And i will laugh so hard when you all will realize that you been following the wrong game.

Haha theres no chance in hell Im getting this game anymore, I dont want to deal with asshole GMs on a powertrip "zomg kill me again and im gonna ban you"

Funcom thread regarding this

forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

http://forum.goonheim.com/showthread.php?t=957

This goonforum thread shows that they're a bunch of hackers/cheaters/racists and proud of it.  Most of them have gotten banned already.  I'm pretty sure the GM was a bit stricter on them because of that fact. 

well i dont know the all story but i wont be surprised if this guild and 4chan guild all they did was griefing lower lvl players,i don't mean just gank here and there but probably whole guild just group and gank ALL the time,if this was the case then i'm happy the GM told them to stop.

and yea i play on PVE server,even though i like PVP,assholes like this can ruin your game .

Originally posted by GrumpyDwarf

http://forum.goonheim.com/showthread.php?t=957

 

This goonforum thread shows that they're a bunch of hackers/cheaters/racists and proud of it.  Most of them have gotten banned already.  I'm pretty sure the GM was a bit stricter on them because of that fact. 

that thread was created to get everyone riled up. They didn't get banned and there isn't a man with the code name of Steven working for Funcom as a Goon spy hehe

Wow.

I don't like griefer BS but that is the game funcom made.  If this is even close to accurate, just plain wow.  Are they retarded?

Talk about carebear GMs.

Originally posted by LordCaptain
All I see is a GM telling a guild a lot of people are starting to send petitions about them and their griefing and that, maybe, if they don't want to be the guild everyone hates on the server, they should try not to be so blatant about it. The GM offered ADVICE, he didn't ban or force them to do anything. Just some simple advice from a perspective that is DIFFRENT from that of the guilds. Holy crap, I wish he had done more. I support a free and total battleground, until your actions ruin the fun of other players. As it is, this was enough to make me buy the game. If that guild was really getting that many complaints then I feel it was totally justified. You got a big group of morons ruining the fun of other players. I hope they leave.

Why do you want them to leave? FFA PvP servers are for just that purpose,and those kind of tactics are allowed on the server. Why should the "other players" ruin the fun for the "big group of morons"? It's a 2 way street.

Urgh..?  If this is indeed true, and any of these GMs were on UO when it first launched, almost the entire population of each server would have been banned.

Granted, I'm not playing the game atm (waiting for the 360 version, ...err maybe?)  but seriously, if they have such a big problem with this then it is completely their fault for not implementing some way to protect against it.

You don't punish people for your design flaws.  Exploits?  Sure.  Your own design flaws?  No.

It's not like no MMOs have implemented ways to protect against spawn camping/etc..  And the part about not using multiple people...lol...I don't know what to say.  And I didn't used to like pvp that much, aside from early UO, but that is just totally sorry, if true

Hope FC makes the bad GM go away... it's a pvp game after all, however as for foul language use there should be a limit, but then again it's a gory mess and if I happen to wack a guy and he's ranting about it let him get out his aggression. Some has a need to use foul language when skills doesn't match the opponent.

There is several other mmo's where GM's have made critical mistakes and even interfered because they took things personal. GM's job is to follow company rules but seems like in some cases they're out on a limb.

Originally posted by Rhenkar

Urgh..?  If this is indeed true, and any of these GMs were on UO when it first launched, almost the entire population of each server would have been banned.

Granted, I'm not playing the game atm (waiting for the 360 version, ...err maybe?)  but seriously, if they have such a big problem with this then it is completely their fault for not implementing some way to protect against it.

You don't punish people for your design flaws.  Exploits?  Sure.  Your own design flaws?  No.

It's not like no MMOs have implemented ways to protect against spawn camping/etc..  And the part about not using multiple people...lol...I don't know what to say.  And I didn't used to like pvp that much, aside from early UO, but that is just totally sorry, if true

I remember the UO days with "Great Lords" and "Dread Lords" .   I remember before they made the changes to the dread lord and great lord titles,  guilds or groups of people would police areas, mines  etc..etc..  to protect players from the gankers or zerg.  I do wish I had waited for the buddy key.  The game does not feel like a next gen MMO to me at all.  if I were you, I I would wait until they release the buddy keys and try it out before you buy.  If people want a FFA PVP server I think you should lose xp and at least one item unlike UO where you lost everything you had, now those were the good old days.  This is only my opinion but test the PVP, PVE and culture servers before you give up on the game, you may or may not like any of them.  I will say the next gen graphics are great. 

played UO, EQ, EQII, LOTRO and still playing DAOC (classic server)