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Originally posted by lionheart362
k.... the game is good i can say that, but i could be better, yer graphics are good but alot of games are better! also its ridiculos amount of money 2 pay for it every month !! if been loyal 2 all of the final fantasys but they could of made it bettter on the amount of time they spent on it!! yer can get 2 lvl 15 in a day(if you spend all day on it!!

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FFXI = one of the cheapest monthly prices, No, not many games at all have better graphics

just to prove u rong guild wars has brilliant graohics and only cost £30 2 buy and does not cost anything monthly..................¬_¬

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Originally posted by lionheart362
just to prove u rong guild wars has brilliant graohics and only cost £30 2 buy and does not cost anything monthly..................¬_¬

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Well, I dont see how you "prove" me "rong", all I said was FFXI has one of the best GFX in a MMORPG out there. And about guildwars, I'm not sure why they even call it a MMORPG, more like Diablo with arena pvp and good gfx. No there is no fee for guildwars, but also theres shit for game content, choices, play the shitty story mode which literally turns to shit once the world gets destroyed, or pvp. Gets old after about 1 week, but im not gonna bash it because it is free, its got its moments, but on a scale, it has really nothing in common with a offical MMORPG.

i see were u getting at it does have its downfulls but so does ffXI

Ziabatsu, can I be your friend?

We think alike, heh

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Originally posted by Psycosis

There is no solo element to the game at all...

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Right, because an online [multiplayer] game is all about soloing.  I guess you should add most sports: you can't solo football, baseball, hockey, etc. You can practice, but you cannot play an actual game of those sports alone, so I guess they all suck to, right?

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Originally posted by wildcardmark
currently playing ff11 for over 1,5 years now still enjoying it a lot partying get harder wen your getting higher up especialy with some classes but i would like to point out that some jobs are good for solo play but not for fast leveling beastmaster, rdm, whm, blm these classes can handle themselfs pretty good if you pay it right currently a friend of mine is blm level 75 and i have seen him solo decents and some time,s even tough,s witch is imposible for my class at that level (drk) so its not impossible to solo just a lot harder and recuire,s skill unlike wow witch anybody can bring it to level 60 in a month by solo,ing (no skill needed)

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Yes, because the main thing we need to remember is just as in real life, some types of people [characters] cannot do things that others can, but that doesn't mean that they are less important.  You said that White Mage can solo, and while I'm not trying to counter that, I'll use that and a Warrior for an example/analogy: The Warrior can solo things as far has his offense goes -- he can deal the damage, but he still needs a White Mage to keep him alive.  True, the White Mage cannot defeat that enemy like the Warrior could, but he was still important.  Just the same, Medics or Recon type people in both FPS type games or iRL are generally not considered as adepth in combat as the full soldier types, but they are nonetheless important to the overall combat.  Simply not being able to solo doesn't mean that the at Job is worthless/weak or that the game isn't designed well, it just means that the purpose that that Job serves is not geared towards directly affecting the event, they are to influence them.

Very nice description i completely agree with you. I only just got FFXI but already am being consumed by it...there is a lot of teamwork, but if there was none of that then there would be no point in it being online. It would be like playing a normal RPG like Morrowind

Very nice description i completely agree with you. I only just got FFXI but already am being consumed by it...there is a lot of teamwork, but if there was none of that then there would be no point in it being online. It would be like playing a normal RPG like Morrowind

I'd like to add something: I read somewhere in this thread that in EQ he/she could solo while waiting for a group whereas in FFXI u can't do anything,just wait. Well I don't think that is the case because the game has alot of activities in it. For example,I fish while lfg and make money out of what I catch. Since money is a bit of a problem in FFXI in general because item prices fluctuate way too often one can craft or fish or mine while waiting for a group. And another thing: Lvling isn't slow in FFXI. You just need to know how to make a good group. If you just put together a group based on the "healer-n-tank-n-nothing-else" principle it gets u nowhere in the game. My character's main job is Monk and MNK's work well with Samurais because of the skillchains. But I also need an elemental spell caster (Black or Red Mage) to Magic Burst after the chain for more damage. So far I have a tank,a healer,an elemental spell caster,myself (a damage dealer) and a samurai (another DD). All I need now is one more member who can be anything depending on what the group and I want (or what is available lfg). I believe that similar principles exist in other MMOs as well. And if we r just looking to level really fast then there is no real reason to play an RPG in the first place because it will kill the fun in the long run.

Anyway,we went off topic in this thread as well! No,Square-Enix doesn't have FFXI available for download. You can only buy it.

There's a reason that FFXI is different from other MMORPGS, mainly because it's a Japanese game.

In Japan, the people place more emphasis on group success - the good of the people. To be successful you must work togther as a team to overcome more powerful foes. Whereas, in America, we look up to the solitary hero. Which is why games such as WoW have a large solo-play ability: it was the society as a whole admires.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who rip on group-oriented games are American. Either that, or you lack the patience and ability to sit through and play a game that requires actual though. Every death, every level, every job has some impact on your online alter-ego and those without the will to sit through that often quit early on.

OP: Get the PC discs - you can get FFXI, RotZ, and CoP for about 40$.

- The Weaponsmith

Originally posted by ziabatsu

Reply to the first poster- Ok guys, he obviousley hasnt played the game, he probably means where can he get ahold of something like a 7-14 day free trial, ex. Download and try. Sorry is this was already covered, didnt bother reading any other posts.

But I will take into account why I lvled so quickly, I RPed a WHM.  EVERY party needs/wants a WHM so finding a party after lv. 10 was rather easy.  You will have a tough time starting out if you choose THF or MNK.    WAR, BLM, WHM and RDM have a much easier time finding parties then the other basic classes.

 I want to  know how to download FFXI,too!