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mrroboto40  5/10/08 6:11:24 PM

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I think it's because there isn't actually anything to publish.

 
killerxion  5/10/08 6:14:41 PM

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Originally posted by mrroboto40

I think it's because there isn't actually anything to publish.

wrong

 
DunkelGraf  5/10/08 6:20:47 PM

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Originally posted by killerxion
Originally posted by mrroboto40

I think it's because there isn't actually anything to publish.

wrong

Really?

 

I really hope im wrong

 
killerxion  5/10/08 6:27:33 PM

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cati just like throwing things around its never been publishers didnt want to publishes it its the df devs are not letting them just like taso said

 
Xris375  5/11/08 1:22:46 AM

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Do we really know if they have a publisher or not ? They have stated that they are looking at both but this journal said nothing about that ?!

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Scriar  5/11/08 3:49:30 AM

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Originally posted by Catizone

If it's feature complete and ready to come out within 7 months?

Would you want to publish a game that has a reputation like Darkfall? At the end of the day people are not going to want to waste millions publishing a game that most people have already written off as vapourware or a failure waiting to happen.

 

It is to big of a risk, they have no choice but to self publish because any publisher with business sense would not risk investing in Aventurine. The most that could happen is that a small start up publisher helps them, but if they supposedly have money then they might as well do it them self.

edit: btw supposedly they are publishing themselves in just a few regions which implies they do have publishers for other regions.

Catizone  5/11/08 5:31:01 AM

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Originally posted by Scriar

 

Originally posted by Catizone

If it's feature complete and ready to come out within 7 months?

Would you want to publish a game that has a reputation like Darkfall? At the end of the day people are not going to want to waste millions publishing a game that most people have already written off as vapourware or a failure waiting to happen.

 

It is to big of a risk, they have no choice but to self publish because any publisher with business sense would not risk investing in Aventurine. The most that could happen is that a small start up publisher helps them, but if they supposedly have money then they might as well do it them self.

edit: btw supposedly they are publishing themselves in just a few regions which implies they do have publishers for other regions.


Self publishing for Aventurine means Direct 2 Download. You can't do Direct 2 Download in "specific regions".  That's a world wide thing since anyone can download it from anywhere... Unless they start IP banning specific countries.

 
fantaros  5/11/08 5:57:11 AM

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Originally posted by Scriar

 

Originally posted by Catizone

If it's feature complete and ready to come out within 7 months?

Would you want to publish a game that has a reputation like Darkfall? At the end of the day people are not going to want to waste millions publishing a game that most people have already written off as vapourware or a failure waiting to happen.

 

It is to big of a risk, they have no choice but to self publish because any publisher with business sense would not risk investing in Aventurine. The most that could happen is that a small start up publisher helps them, but if they supposedly have money then they might as well do it them self.

edit: btw supposedly they are publishing themselves in just a few regions which implies they do have publishers for other regions.

On the contrary i would love to publish a game with a reputation like DF. Why? it pretty simple every1 who has been playing mmo's has heard some time of his life about DF, that equals to me like word of mouth advertising, and that as we know still remains the best way to advertise an mmo

 
Polarization  5/12/08 9:20:22 AM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

Originally posted by fantaros

 

 

On the contrary i would love to publish a game with a reputation like DF. Why? it pretty simple every1 who has been playing mmo's has heard some time of his life about DF, that equals to me like word of mouth advertising, and that as we know still remains the best way to advertise an mmo

Considering your apparent naivety or ignorance concerning basic business, promotional and publishing practices, I can assure you any chance they had of gaining positive word of mouth advertisment without actually showing there game has passed years ago.

Obviously the only way left for them to have any chance of successfully promoting there product at this stage is to simply start demonstrating it, like any other reputable MMO company does when there game is apparently this close to release.

But if it has been there master plan all along to advertise the game purely by word of mouth then they have failed miserably, considering that the majority of the people who have heard about this game threw word of mouth have only heard negative things concerning there notoriously atrocious reputation and/or complete lack of credibility.

Of course if they do release this year and manage to vindicate themselves and prove all the skeptics wrong then we will see if this will be enough to influence people to change there opinions, but if they only manage a lackluster or another delayed launch then its only going to compound the already dire situation even further (if that’s possible).

Anyway I doubt it considering over the years it appears they have attempted to get as much press as possible from as many sources as possible, its just there abysmal track record and inability to demonstrate there product has severely hampered there ability to promote themselves threw most mainstream outlets.

Probably why they have been forced at rather pathetic promotional attempts for example amongst many over the years rather dubious visits by anonymous members of guilds, appearing at E3 without a game and only a lap top with some screen shots and videos or other gaming conventions with empty stands but plenty of Darkfall t-shirts and posters, a brief google Adwords campaign or paying to represent Greece and Libya at the ESWC etc.

 
therain93  5/12/08 9:59:11 AM

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“Game Experience May Change During Online Play” is about ESRB ratings, not changing game content!

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